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Fraud: Babbys First Twink Waterweight 2.5g/week Cycle Edition

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read ALL OF the r/steroids wiki:
reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual. or see CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use steroidcalc.com/

If you're going to ask a beginner question, make sure to include:
- age
- bf%
- time spent training

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC34445/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

>when gains gays try to hold you back
It ain't happening gay niggers from outerspace. You can never stop me. I'm far too powerful.

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I've been on 900mg test for 14 weeks now and gained 34lbs

Why do I still feel like a twink? I'm almost 220lbs now

post transformation? not bad size gains but I’m guessing it was a lot of water

is masT dead? haven't seen him around. I miss his angry sperging

banned

So i have a friend who was a fatty and started hitting thw gym 3yrs in and its a great transformation. He starts to /fraud starts simple cycles on off properly. Time passes now hes just off wk 50 tren and about to start deca and eq. Im pretty sure hes an addict at this point. Hes about to try amature classic physique, but because he was fatty extrea skin makes his core look like ass. People try to tell him but he blocks them out. Ive been telling him for the longest to get the skin surgery but its a 30 day recovery no gym process hes like fuck that and thinks he can fill it out.
>How do i deal with my delusional friend?
Hes also changed he was a virgin and now he looks down upon 6's he would have given an arm to fuck.
>How to i tell him he can go to the gym all he wants but he cant fix his face and height?

It's me you

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> 50 weeks of tren

lmao his brain is already gone. best to just leave him alone or drop the friendship

piss?

It's just somebody lying on the internet. The picture is almost a decade old.

do steroids actually change your mindset and thoughts? is addiction a thing?

>and gained 34lbs
Nice gains user. Looks like it's time to stop with the babby pussy doses and step up the big boy leagues. 2.5 grams or go home, brodog.

Yes, especially tren can fuck with you hard. But all of them have been proven to screw with people on a neuro level, especially when abused

Steroids are not addictive in and of themselves. But a person can be addicted to anything.

Yup last two weeks on cycle he was pushing 3g of tren.
BP was averaging 150/100
I want to but hes supply lol

>3g of tren
Definitely a chad. You should suck his dick since you're already his beta bitch anyway.

Your joke made me chuclke. Im definetly not a beta.
>Bait Failed*

What a gay beta response lmao

>Trying this hard to troll on Jow Forums
You should an hero

>haha I r not beta
>pls believe
>u r the troll

Kek if your first cycle wasnt 2.5grams dont even talk to me

If you're not pinning enough oil that you have to start logging it in MyFitnessPal you are NEVER going to make it.

It was 3grams. BITCH. WHO'S THE BIG DOG NOW FAGGOT, HUH? HUH?

Likely has nothing at all to do with what you're taking or what you're lifting.

Change your frame, how you stand, how you walk, how you carry yourself. Fix you posture in general. Power pose and shit as part of your daily routine. You feel like a twink because you still act like one.

Unironically thank goodness my EQ comes in 600mg/ml. Otherwise I'd be pinning 4.3ml just in EQ.

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Read the wiki. I'm a 27 Y.O.M. planning on doing 20mg Ligandrol & 10mg Ostarine ED. Follwed by 20mg Nolvadex ED afterwards.
Is this is waste of time? I am avoiding steroids for two reasons: I had HORRENDOUS acne more or less my entire life,was on Accutance and everything. Even late into my twenties now, the acne is still prevalent on my back. The other reason is I don't know where to get steroids.

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2.5 grams/week.

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Not gonna make it. Nice trips tho.

unironically leave

>blow out on tren to be alpha
>dick doesn’t work
>grow tits
>natty steals your girl

Steroids are for faggots who know dick all about biochemistry. Don’t take this shit unless you’re under a doctor's care.

Your mother blew me out, gayboy.

The fuck's a Y.O.M.?

I don't comprehend what you are trying to say. Forget what im doing and take 2.5 grams/week of something? The stuff I listed come out to about ~2 grams/week, are you referring to that? Maybe I'm retarded,but I don't know what a context less number means

>doctor
Dude 2 weeks of reading Jow Forumssteroids will make you more knowledgeable than most doctors on the subject.

year old male

>The stuff I listed come out to about ~2 grams/week
Nice math.

Lmfao so that's what it's like to run 3gs. Come off probably weighing like a buck 50 after all that water weight gets pissed out

Cope. Just run 3 grams pussy. Who doesn't run 4 grams? I mean honestly 5 grams is confirmed first cycle tier stuff.

What counts as a 'strength base' before roiding, and don't say natty limit

Test

Bench 1 plate, deadlift 2 plate, squat 1.5 plate. All with proper form. You don't need much.

I'd say at least 1/2/3/4, preferably for 5 reps, anything else seems like such a waste

Lol, I bet a lot of pro BBers don't rep 4 plates. You don't need to lift heavy weight to grow while on gear.

I know but would a 12 week cycle of gear really put you above those stats? I'd be pretty embarrassed if a I was a frauder and a natty was stronger

Would you not grow even more from the heavier weights? Also if you get to 1/2/3/4 as a natty you're gonna have decent form which surely helps too

this is true, also true for the 1plate ohp. that's a lot for anyone who hasn't focused on strength training for a while.

the bench and squat numbers are probably closer to the truth because those are meme exercises

>Would you not grow even more from the heavier weights?
No. Bodybuilding is almost entirely gear dosage and eating.

>decent form
You can have good form while squatting a broomstick

>tfw mind muscle connection with chest
>tfw no more painful shoulders
>tfw chest getting so wide so fast
Thank you sweet sweet mother Diana for these gains. Thank you frens of /fraud/ I love every single one of u fags
We all gonna make it

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Are there any drugs that increase height? T:179cm

I love you too. I sure hope you're on 2.5grams.

If you're older than 16 forget about it

> i’d be really embarrassed if I was natty and stronger than a fraud

then go to /plg/, some of us want to preserve our joints and also it’s been proven hypertrophy is much more effective than strength for building muscle

> inb4 ronnie coleman

he just did heavy weight for a lot of reps. I look up to him but jay cutler played it way better because he’s still walking and looks big

I'm 18

Very small chance. Get a blood test done and check your estrogen. If it's higher than reference range your chance is now halved. Don't touch gear yet and take AI for 3 years. That would be your only chance. Also u might wanna do a body scan to see if your growth plates have fused.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC34445/

In a way they are physically addicting. I mean, shutting down natural hormone production is kind of like withdrawal

I have a potential gyno situation. Taking 500mg test/400mg deca
per week. Blasting B6 but not caber. Noticed nips getting sensitive but no lumps or anything, started getting worse so I upped AI and started nolva. It's been a few days and sensitivity has gone way down, but not gone completely yet. Am I in the clear? Obviously gonna keep going with the nolva for a few days after they feel normal again as the wiki suggests.

I have no fucking idea why you would think that would make a good beginner cycle. I have literally never heard of those two. And say how long each cycle's gong to last. 2 weeks on 2 grams of tren isn't going to do anything compare to 10 weeks on 500 mg of test.
Which is actually a decent cycle. 500 mg test e a week with 20 mg of dbol every day is what I would recomend for 8-10 weeks. Just be sure to either take some Nolva during the cycle (like 10 mg a day) or an AI to prevent growing titties. And get some hcg for the pct. Can't be too safe.
I've just given you a pretty good start but you have to research this shit yourself. You sound like you don't know nearly enough and may end up as the next Jason Genova if you fuck with your hormones without knowing what you're doing.
And find a steroid forum to look for a source in

Guys is AI enough for 40mg Dianabol a day or should I run nolva also?

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How do i down vote this?

Do you mean 10mg Ligandrol and 20mg Ostarine ?
That sounds more like the recommended dosages

You don't know lgd 4033 and mk 2866? And you're giving shit advice (10 week cycle?)while telling others to do more research?
>mfw

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Poor baby is afraid to break his nails by increasing weights.

This is likely gonna shut you down after like 4-6 weeks. Also this . Might fare a bit better.

Sounds like you're good, keep an eye on it and keep your ai at increased dosage compared to before. Nolva until symptoms gone completely.

I’m 38 and blast and cruised with Test and every other steroid from age 25 to my early 30’s. I quit so I could have kids.

Now that I’m married with 2 sons I’m planning to go back on Test but since I’ve been reading about SARMs ever since they were just an idea back in the 90’s, I decided to try them before going back on.

I’m only taking 15mg of Ostarine a day. I was planning on bumping it up to 30mg after the first couple weeks but now I’m just going to go with 15mg a day for 10-12 weeks. This shit is legit. As far as mood and strength I feel like I’m on 250mg of Test per week. I’m on week 5 and have gained 14 lbs and look leaner. I know my gains are big because I’m getting my old muscle back and I doubt I’ll ever get back to my old size.

I went with Ostarine because I have a friend that’s a cardiologist and does bodybuilding as a hobby, and he said that Ostarine and Ibutamoren are the only ones he would recommend due to them currently being tested on humans.

Also, don’t stack shit if you’ve never tried it before. For your first cycle you just need Testosterone or with SARMs you just take one SARM. You’re not just gaining size but you’re also testing the waters to learn how your body reacts to anabolics.

>muh 28 weeks 1.5 gram tren 3 gram test beginner cycle meme
Funny

Sorry I just looked up what they are and hahahaahha SARMS. No wonder I'd never heard of these meme "performance enhancers" and if thinks that they're going to do anything he's beyond fucked and has absolutely NO chance of making it. Do you even need to take a serm with that? Just save the money for soi and butplugs

So I have everything picked out and planned for my potential first cycle. I'm in my mid 20's. 13 Week Cycle
>500mg Test E every 3 days
>200mg Tren E once every 7 days for weeks 10-11
>I have 50 20mg Aromasin
>15000 iu of HCG
>bacteriostatic water (apprx how much do I need?)
The only item I will need to order separately will be the Nolvadex, where should I buy that, and does anything about this seem retarded? I read the wiki and lurked for a while to pick this, and I feel I have a good understanding of what to take, how much and when but I could be wrong, I just lift things up and put them down.

Oops, that should be
>200mg Tren E once every 7 days weeks 2-11

Serious question I want to fly to South America or the Caribbean for vacation this winter, how do I take my needles and test? I could just go two weeks without injecting but I like doing it twice a week for less side affects

Is it worth the risk to hide in my luggage? Doubt anyone would find it desu or even fucking care.

Are you flying out of the US?

Just pin 1.5x the dose and you’ll be fine dude. I went on an 11 day cruise while cruising (lul) and just did a 400mg pin when I was doing 250 per week.Takes a few weeks before you start rebounding after your last pin so you’ll be fine

>200mg Tren E once every 7 days for weeks 10-11
What the fuck?

Check the half life of the enanthate ester again
e7d is far from optimal

Should be weeks 2-11

It says
>active time: 8-10 days
Would 100mg e4d be better?

Should I try to get a prescription for Nlvadex?

I’ve done that before but It causes gyno I don’t want to risk it

Yes I would just trash it before flying back into us. Or I could just mail it maybe idk.

I’m 99% sure I’d be fine just putting an unopened vial in my shaving kit and buying needles wherever I am but idk if I should risk it. Also nice to have stuff I know is sterile.

Do e3d or e3.5d - bloodlevels are gonna fluctuate too hard otherwise.

> causes gyno

where is the evidence for this?? sounds like something you pulled out of your ass. if you’re that worried then pack some exemestane pills and put them with your vitamins. jesus christ

I got gyno when I injected 500mg once a week switched to 150mg twice a week and it stopped

You get a legit Rx, faggot

ayy lmao

Double your dose and you might make it.

Alright, R8 first cycle here. Got inspired by the 2.5g twink chad.

750mg test
750mg deca
1500mg tren

Be honest, do you think this is enough to make it?

Couple questions boys.

What's the minimum cruise for recovery? Does it always have to be the same length as a blast?

Also, how do I drop from a blast to a cruise with test e?
I've been running 12.5 Aromasin ED at 500mg but I assume it will take a few pins of 250mg a week for serum levels to drop - How does this affect AI dosing? Do I dose for a certain while and then lower it? Do I just stop and ride out the sides? Can I buffer with nolva in the meantime?

enjoy your gyno

I got bunch of AI, caber and Raloxifen. I ain't scared.

Like 2 months. No. Just pin less. Just taper down, doesn't really matter that much, you can adjust the ai on a daily basis. Nolva if you get the spicy pepperonis.

Oh and I forgot to mention, I'm 5' 9" 150lbs.

What happens in the first 4-5 weeks of test e? I keep hearing about how it doesnt kick in till week 5, so what does that mean for gains prior to that?

Is there literally no change in your body?

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You get gains.

Please God let this be bait

yeah for me it “kicked in” in terms of significant strength gains on the fourth week on the dot. felt no physical difference until then

you get water weight leading up to around 5 weeks where the weight stabilizes. From that point forward any weight gain (at least on a bulk) should be more or less permanent (eg gains you keep). Trust me the first 5 weeks spoils you coz making muscle is a long tedious process

Everytime I look in the mirror I look good but when I take my phone out to capture the moment, I look like the gymcel in pic related. How the fuck into gym selfies? Any definitive guide on how to take a shirtless selfie?

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it’s all about face height frame

spread your injections throughout the week so you dont have peaks and crashes

just dont do tren its not worth it

A little on the conservative side, but you might gain a few pounds.

more like 2 plate bench, 4 plate dead lift and 3 plate squat