I want to learn a fighting style that doesn't have striking (punching/kicking) as the main focus...

I just started Judo and love it. Think it makes a good intro intro BJJ and you can have a black belt in about 3 years. the groundwork will save you a few years at the begining of your BJJ career and you will have sick throws to boot.

btw, if you want to be effective against striking you really should practice a striking style at least a little.

youtube.com/watch?v=9XKdM8hoxOQ

What i mean by becoming a tank is become STRONG and get a little extra bodyfat, sort of like Daniel Cormier - but preferably even stronger.

taekwando

make sure you buy good insurance if you stake it all on BJJ
youtube.com/watch?v=V7leifdLuJ4

It works pretty well outside of te dojo, there's a reason we teach it to cops.

I'm assuming you're not talking MMA but rather just self defence or street fighting.

Judo has a steeper learning curve initially. Throwing people is technically harder to perform effectively, but it looks great. Making people go airborne is awesome.

The sport rules made it less useful for combat than it used to be, but there is still good stuff in Judo.

GTFO tripfag

The lesson here is to avoid grappling when multiple opponents are present. Grappling is for 1 on 1 fights.

Learn something with striking as the main focus you massive retard. Anything else is a complete waste of time and you'll notice that as soon as jamals first fist hits your face. Go for MMA, best of everything, punching, kicking and wrestling in one. Most practical for real fights.

>It looks flashy,
It isn't
>t. bluebelt.

Literally just learn kickboxing blocks and drill them alongside training a grappling art of your choice. Like, c'mon bruh, it ain't complicated.

Kickboxing and Jujitsu is the best combo. Perfect mix of striking and grappling to counter anyone.

>Hurr but I don't wanna do striking

Then get ready to lose every single fight you get into

where is his tripcode?

>little extra bodyfat, sort of like Daniel Cormier
Please mean cain or jds.

you cant win an actual fight with just grappling and throws

Mainly I just watch to train my sense of hostile human contact. My job (psych ward floor staff) has me throwing crazy people into the padded room pretty frequently. I wouldnt be using judo or jujitsu moves on the job, but I just want to be comfortable in my own skin ya know?

OP may sound dumd but the truth is even small jabs over time cause CTE.

>Kickboxing
youtube.com/watch?v=Lpl_7w8-jTE

Aka the gay version of Muay thai

99% of fights that are more than 1v1 will end up with the person being outnumbered getting the shit beaten out of them. Almost every martial art is shit against more than one person; you're far better off learning how to run quickly if you want to be good at self-defence.

If you want to learn how to actually fight a person in single combat then jiu-jitsu is the best. Anyone who still thinks striking > grappling is delusional. Anyone who thinks wrestling or judo > jiu jitsu is an idiot with zero experience. I've legit seen shit, unathletic white belts take the mount on very serious eastern european wrestlers and out-grapple judo black belts on the ground.

>Trying to get inside on a lanklet and take them to the ground so they can't use their long reach against you is a waste of time. Just stand toe to toe and let him beat you into a coma.

I actually intensively do bjj, I just am not delusional about what it will get me. I could lead you in the right direction about this stuff, but I elect not to.

You won’t be able to effectively defend against strikes unless you actually learn a striking style and have to defend against strikes in sparring.
As for what grappling style to do, as others have said BJJ and wrestling with submissions is what seems to be most effective, some judo throws can also be great.
So does slamming into the ground when being thrown or taken down in judo, BJJ, wrestling etc

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J U S T
I still admire the blatant subjectivity of the announcers of this fight though, it is so based. Often I wish Americans and Westerners were still arrogant like that and not massive cucks like now. Maybe it's all a growing process idk.

in training you will rarely be slammed. Once you start training grappling you learn how to fall so that you don't get hurt landing on the mats, and your partner won't be putting extra force to slam you hard on the mat purposely. Much different than someone getting thrown and slammed on concrete in a street fight.

Muay thai, boxing and basic judo throws is all one needs. Only problem with muay thai is that it's hard to learn and takes too much time to be a good practitioner.

Fair enough, though you don’t need hard impacts for CTE, smaller shocks that add up over time are a much bigger risk. You don’t get full on punched in striking sparring either, but relatively light hits add up over time too

Are you fucking stupid or what?

Tfw “black belt in 3 years”

What kind of corny Americuck mcdojo do you attend then

Jiu jitsu

“Ah yes just hop into my gay spider guard and I shall destroy you”

You are legit retarded “if you think wrestling or judo > jui jitsu you’re a zero experience idiot”

Nigga try getting slammed on concrete or a hard surface by someone who knows what they’re doing and thennnn try and do your gay butterfly guards. By the time you reach the ground the fight is over unless you’re on a carpet or mat or other soft surface... you clearly are the one with no experience.

If you don't a at to strike then just grapple. But protip: part of having an iron chin is knowing how to take shots, your good stance, general striking fundamentals. Which you're never gonna learn if you only grapple.
So just make sure that you instinctual ly cover up with your arms and you work your entries into grips, rather than getting into the habit of reaching your arms out with your chin up (which is what you'll do 95% of the time in judo). Unironically rewatch ufc 1, 2&4 and copy Royce gracie with the goofy low kick, cover and shoot combo.

>he doesn't just pick them up one by one and slam their fucking skulls off the ground

The thing is, if multiple opponents are present, NO MARTIAL ART WILL HELP YOU. Very skilled martial artists have been killed in the streets by multiple opponents. There's a one in a million chance that you get very lucky, but if you are facing multiple opponents, you run from them or shoot them. That is not a fight you can win.
If fighting 1 on 1, grappling is very effective. It can end fights very fast. An untrained individual will be absolutely dismantled by even a beginner grappler.

b-but I saw it in a video game

Bas Rutten and several bouncers in Sweden would like a word with you.
Having fast, accurate, and powerful striking can absolutely deal with more than one untrained person

It works, but I'd recommend occasionally trying to practice throws without a gi. Learning new grips is super handy.

just learn bjj and get strong enough to dislocate limbs

This is bullshit. A good striker eho is in fighting shape can still easily win 2 v 1 and even 3 v 1 obviously everyone should learn striking and grappling but grappling is kind of retarded in street fighting.

Yeah it's usually 6 I think, and that's for someone who competes on the reg

I mean I once hip tossed a dude and ended the fight there, so I dunno. Did boxing before starting judo but it's not like a whole lot of boxing happened once I grabbed him.

my superior speed and knife will dab on any martial arts fagget

youtube.com/watch?v=HEjflWAdbiM
what would have happened had he still been hugging the first guy on the ground when his pal showed up?
that's right, shut the fuck up

DO MMA

Look up Demian Maia.

You still have to train kickboxing to know how to avoid strikes. Same thing happends with weapons. You have to know the angles of attacks. And know what to do.

Judo is fucking hard now because of the new rules

I'm a wrestler and when I go to judo schools the guys who have been training under the old school rules can defend against me very well.

Whenever I grapple somebody who learned under the new rules, even if they're a higher bely

This. Gnp is the single most effective method of beating someone's ass

You must just suck

You didn't finish your post

>The thing is, if multiple opponents are present, NO MARTIAL ART WILL HELP YOU.
Americans...

Pro tip: Don't leave your hotel after 8 PM when in Europe, then.

Every body understood what he meant.

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Depends on the school. The one I train at drills Judo and folk wreslting takedowns pretty regularly. In fact, I would say the quality of the wrestling in my area has improved 10 folds in the last 4 IBJJF competitions I've done.

There really aren't that many shitty takedown BJJ fighters if they are competitive.

This. Your best bet is to run if there are multiple attackers. For some reason people think standing and striking is going to fare any better against multiple opponents.

t. eastern european shithole inhabitant

Or you're in a mcdojo. If it takes 3 years, I'm going with Mcdojo

.45 acp

It can neutralize any attacker.

Come on, it doesn't go through level II armor.
You might dump a whole mag against an unarmed assaillant.
If you'd said 10mm with a 200 grain load, I would have said ok, but .45... faggot.

What you want is Aikido: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido
Takes quite a bit of discipline and training though.

Aikido demo: youtube.com/watch?v=ugsS2_Z0wpA

>several bouncers in sweden

lmfao why just Sweden

gtfo
youtube.com/watch?v=0KUXTC8g_pk

Because all you have to do to beat a Swede is make his nose bleed a little

The answer is bjj and sparring with boxer to learn to get close for takedowns without getting yourself knocked down.

aikido DOES NOT WORK
do not listen to this fag

Judo is an amazing martial art and sport even if you yiu don't train leg attacks you learn to control another human body from the standing position without giving up your own position. It has some groundwork too with the emphasis on staying on top and not getting pinned on bottom.

Go and try one judo class, you'll be amazed at how conditioned the players are and just how hard it is to even get close enough to try and throw them. I don't regret starting my ma career with judo but now I supplement with BJJ and wrestling since the competition ruleset is more complete for BJJ.

>That front kick form
pick related.
That show is pathetic.

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Taekwondo is ALL kicking and punching you lemon

>not initiating an arm bar and threatening to break his arm if they interfere

>grab man
>throw man to ground
>man dead
>friends jump in
>run fast or pull gun
>leave before cops show up
>call cops and tell them your side of the story

Got to say it has helped my Judo and BJJ develop a lot faster, and I've recently picked up striking to find my power generation and distance management to be far better than you'd expect from a beginner - the former was basically correct from the start because I understood kinetic linking.

Judo and supplement with wrestling or vice versa, both are far more effective in a self defense situation than BJJ as they will allow you to stay standing and GTFO, and you will learn more than enough ground game to control normies. On the off chance you scrap with a BJJ dude just disengage when you hit the ground and laugh in his face if he tries to buttscoot. This comes from a BJJ purple belt.

those are eastern europeans that shit doesnt count. I was once at a wedding of a friend of mine who married a girl from romania or russia or some shit. There were two guys fighting and once one of them was dropped they just went on to hug and drink more shots than I have ever seen someone drink in my town. I shit you not the one with a cut above the eye pulled out some self brewed liquor he probably mixed together in his bathtub and lit it on fire before pouring it into his open wound. If they are drunk these people are not fucking human.

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lol even akido practitioners say that shit doesn't work but good meme though

>knock out the first 2 guys who come at you so hard they curl up and twitch
>remainder all shuffle away from you

Based.

all of these are legit martial arts:

>boxing
punches
>kickboxing
kicks and punches
>muay thai
kicks, punches, knees and elbows
>wrestling
take-downs, slams
>judo
throws
>jiu-jitsu
submission grappling, ground fighting

Was that guy picking a fight with a cop? If so, those cops are remarkably restrained.

>I've legit seen shit, unathletic white belts take the mount on very serious eastern european wrestlers and out-grapple judo black belts on the ground.

I sincerely doubt that given how often and how easily sambo guys demolish bjj guys in various mma orgs.

Why would you try and pull guard with size advantage? Just pick him up and drop him

What style is Amedovski? That's a sick defense to guillotine.

Based attitude on the Aikido guy though. So humble and willing to learn.

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A decent BJJ white belt with 1-2 years of experience has a good chance to submit the average Judo black belt. Then again, I've seen purple belts being roughened up by Judo blackbelts on the ground as well.

Those are cops. They're also trained. That wasn't BJJ that was just strength/size vs numbers

Oh Judo for sure. It helps BJJ is actually still improving whereas Judo... less so.

my 2 cents as someone who practices since 2010
aikido itself doesn't directly apply to real situations (a technique is a study that requires both sides to behave under certain specific assumptions, that may most likely even be counterintuitive in a real setting), though its principles are easily exportable if needed be: on almost every technique after the very first movement you deal with the attack with, you can simply follow with a hit or lever. there's no denying that the whole martial art is a self contained study, so if the only goal is self defense aikido is a very roundabout and unnecessary way to go about it, as it's not what aikido is about

this was years ago, he dropped aikido, began training mma, got fit, became chad-looking (though still looks insecure when he talks)

>be boxerfag
>gym costs 90 dollars a month in downtown west coast city, includes unlimited classes, weight room
>cool, fun group of all backgrounds (mostly poor blacks and latinos)

>want to branch into BJJ
>can't find a gym for less than 150 per month, no weight room
>gyms are full of nerdy white and asian guys

What the fuck

Pressed post before finished.

How do I find a good BJJ gym? Is it just always going to be more expensive or am I being Jewed because I'm looking in the city itself? Should I be going to a suburb somewhere for it?

Also does BJJ have the same issue as boxing where some gyms are basically boxercise? If so, how do I spot that during the one class trial?

Wouldn't know about wrestling, Judo's still fairly popular here but wrestling's been declining since the fifties or so, to the point where it's almost exclusively former USSR denizens and some MMA places keeping it alive. It's having a small revival, but it's still far smaller than either Judo or BJJ hereabouts.

>you can have a black belt in about 3 years.
Just know that by the time you get one, you won't be worthy of it

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Don't think you'll easily find cheap BJJ your side of the Atlantic unfortunately,as it's often run on a for-profit model it seems.

On how to spot the McDojo: during sparring, if you get clowned by white belts your size who trains about a year - or any coloured belt - it's a decent place.

You know how I know you don't get into fights often, You talk like someone who hasn't figured out by himself that go to the ground in a volatile environement isn't a dangerous thing. Plus you had to do Aikido to learn the basic about keylocking people standing, A white belt feature in a non shitty bjj school eg. mano de vaca.
>INB4 Gracie barra doesn't teach it and neither Atos, both are good school per se, just successful teams in SPORT bjj.
Let me add that in the bullshit that bjj self-defense is, Ikkio,nikio and sankio are also basic finishes. This is a special traits of bjj self defense, diamonds in the rough.
There were heel hooks and throws in jiu-jitsu before it was cool.
>This comes from a BJJ purple belt
If I was a cunt I would add:
>go get a blue belt, it fits you better from here.
But you're actually on the good path, keep on cross training and looking for new things jiu-jitsu is multifaceted and perpetually mutating.

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>if you get clowned by white belts your size who trains about a year - or any coloured belt - it's a decent place.

lmao love it, thanks user.