CREATINE

Currently cutting to be more athletic, would you recommend to wait til after the cut to start taking creatine ?

>people ask me what I'm mixing into my water
>tell them it's steroids
>they go quiet and get a serious look on their face
Every time.

>1. no one ever claimed creatine causes hair loss
people claim that all the time

Pretty sure it's this devil powder that turns my bowels to water every time so i gave it up

That’s why I hide it from my parents

no expert but from what i understand, the weight gain you can get from creatine is caused by water in the muscles. so if its about looks, creatine should still help, as it does not affect the fat around your muscles. so if your muscles are pumped up with water they should still look more defined as long as the fat is gone.

its about athleticism, will it hurt my speed ?

the only side effects ive ever heard mentioned are voimiting, diarrhea and maybe maybe some liver/kidney stuff. it might make you feel generally less fit i guess.
but honestly just try it out? if you buy the powder and not the capsules its pretty cheap.

That goes away in a week or two of steady use

do creatine gains disappear when you stop using it?

I'm still fat at about 24%bf and started taking 5g creatine every day. Is it retarded at this high bodyfat percentage?
I just want to retain/gain as much possible muscle mass as possible during my cut.

your weight will stall for a bit bcz of the water retention, other than that its fine

Creatine shown to raise dht levels 40% in men

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19741313/

now find 2nd study with similiar results haha

this is the only one that showed that there MIGHT be some correlation

not him but for me a 3-5% increase in strength is not worth the possibility of early hairloss

as a result of increased testosterone

people keep reporting about being able to do 2-3 more reps or more weight after not even a week of using creatine. and its also about looks dude. muscles go boom.

hair loss is not gonna happen, brother. besides, bald is a pretty manly haircut.

It makes you bald.

This. And if it will make you bald prematurely (which it won't), just embrace it like a man because it would've happened anyway...

I bought a bunch of OP's bags a while ago on sale, now regretting, can't really sell them, I wanna get off that creatine crutch, seeing that I'm not a bodybuilder or athlete.

Also good news. I got Creatine Kinase results of 276 and got a bit worried since athletes have it around 200. So I did a new panel after not training for a few days and it came up 115 (good).

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ill give you 5 bucks plus shipping fee

i did noticed hair loss while using it.

I paid $15 a bag

forhims.com/blog/does-creatine-cause-hair-loss

exactly, here this topic is explained quite well.

my advice for all people that want to improve their physique/strength gains while making sure nothing happens with their hair: take 3g every day, without any loading phases. if you notice any thinning/balding: stop taking it

Sounds more like No xplode to em.

so is testosterone

FIVE BUCKS TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

>$5 vs $0

Your choice.

I will try to sell it on kijiji

>leaf

Just take it pussy.

whats the worst that can happen if you use it?
have visible muscles?
actually look aesthetic?
have girls talk to you voluntarily?
or yeah, just sell it, dyel

I gotta admit I was bald since high school, so.

Why do you need creatine? Are you trying to be a bodybuilder? If you're in pro sports, ok, maybe you could have a use for it.

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what if you just want to look better and lift more? theres nothing wrong with that.

This. I would shit my brains out on the powder seconds after drinking it. I heard people were shitting out whole capsules and therefore not getting any benefits.

It's cheap as shit and helps you with recovery and makes you look like a little better. Forces you to drink more water too, which is good for overall health.
Have you actually read the fucking study? 40% raise happened during the loading phase, when they were taking 25g every day, it then returned to normal after a week when they started taking 5g.

I say crreatine is a needless crutch for those of who are not bodybuilders or athletes.

why? It’s dirt cheap and the benefits are guaranteed. even if it’s only 3-5% more strength it’s worth more it for the low price. same and more so when you pair it with beta alanine

Post your physique

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what are we looking at

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>it then returned to normal after a week when they started taking 5g

Seem like you didn't read the study.
DHT levels were raised even after weeks of returning to a maintenange dose after the loading phase.

The study is criticized because it said that Creatine causes hairloss.
But what it actually showed was that creatine causes elevated DHT levels whihc is theorized too cause hairloss in individuals later on which are gennetically predisposed to DHT sensitivity which is why men normally turn bald.
The methods of the study have been peer reviewed and have been found to be correct. However there doesn't seem to be another study that tried to replicate the results.

So unless you are sensitive to DHT like roughly 50% of all men you can take creatine without worrry.

>and maybe maybe some liver/kidney stuff

You do understand those are vital organs? You cant just play with them for gains

post evaluated review showing definitive results

only thing i can say for sure is that creatine makes your muscles go boom

If creatine caused hair loss I fear what I would look like if i wasnt on it.

I'm 12 and what is this?

Find a study that says there is no effect.

IF YOU ARE ALREADY GOING BALD CREATINE SPEEDS IT UP. IT DOES NOT CAUSE YOU TO GO BALD ON ITS OWN

Lifting weights boost DHT too fag

You can get big without creatine. You can't get big without lifting weights

Don't do it, I was doing it and tore my dog in two. I also started fighting with the police, after 3 or 4 of them were tazing me, they eventually just crashed a cop car going 100mph which was enough to stop my roid rage, temporarily. I later woke up on an operating table, they literally had to remove my balls to calm me down.

I have no doggo and no nuts....... don't get mixed up with Crazy Creat.

So if you're going to buy it, what brand would you get? I want dem strength and recovery gains

The only disadvantages are, if you're intolerant or insensitive to it would be waste of money or make you sick.
For the rest of the side effects, will vary from individual to individual, give it a try for a couple of weeks, it isn't that expensive.

That's because you drink more water, and not necessarily bad.

The relationship with the hair loss is the increase in DHT in people genetically predisposed to baldness - i already have considerable hair loss and after taking creatine for 2 years, didn't make it worse.

If cutting to make it to a certain weight class, then take it after.
Otherwise, start now, you'll gain some weight due to water retention, adjust you baseline weight and cut from there.

No, neither improve endurance or explosiveness.

You'll look a bit deflated because of the dropped water weight but 1RM strength should remain and lean muscle mass (excluding water, glycogen, etc)

You'll gain water weight, but shouldn't affect the body fat percentage if measured with something accurate like a dexa scanner.

It won't start hair loss in everybody, worst case scenario would a catalyst for people already predisposed to hair loss, which can be countered with finasteride, which you'll take it at a later stage anyway, but now you can control when.

>people doing something to improve, at their own expenses, without affecting anybody else get some results - cheating

I believe he meant that Creatine assists on the energy availability in the first seconds when you need it, for example, intensity sets, but the effect is less noticeable when the energy expenditure spans through minutes, like high volume sets or endurance.

Many such cases.

Same thing happened to me. Wow are we the same person?

Snort creatine (and pre workout). That way it'll hit your brain stem and give you a better pump & mind-muscle control

Just take it, in 99.9% of cases it will give you a small edge
In some cases like myself it will give you headaches in the gym, and it's not drink more water
Looked it up an apparently I'm not the only one, anyone here faced this issue?

creatine only helps with explosiveness right, not very useful for endurance stuff?

Creatine does not affect the adrenal glands retard. Stop fearmongering because you have bellow average iq and you fell for the 'creatine increases dht even though the way creatine works has absolutely no correlation to the production of dht to begin with' meme

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actually I tried this. I'm vegan now

Any Creapure

Are you mentally handicapped?
Creatine kinase indicates damage of muscle cells, it's always spiked for a time after workouts, sometimes it can even stay high for days. Cpk(creatine kinase) has nothing to do with creatine monohydrate.
People like you who see the same word on a completely different thing and assume it's the same thing are the same kind of people who believe whey is a steroid.

It seems the real question is do you SNORT it or DRINK it?

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Creatine is one of the Jow Forums pleb filters. There is no reason not to take it, other than being poor or simply not giving a shit.

dont do it brothers.... i used creatine ONCE and now im bald

i put it in my anus

Met someone in the gym today. He Blocked one of the toilets for over 10 minutes. Vomiting bis brains Out. I asked him what He Took. It was Creatine.

one of the few supplements that actually work

If it causes hair loss its still not a problem. If it does what its suppoused to help you gain then its worth it rather be bald and look good than having hair and looking like a doughball.

i lost hair while on it. use on your own risk, unless i go bald in the future,i wont ever use it again.

they claim shit

So this is cause of creatine? And I've been wondering, why did i start to desire killing people en masse on my morning commutes on a chokefull subway train. Literally every single person there makes me seething.

met someone at papa johns today. he excused himself for the toilet and showed up 20 minutes later. could still smell his diarrhea. the pizza was cold. i asked him what he took. it was creatine.

creatine won't do much for you unless you're already kinda fit because the muscles it affects are fast twitch or whatever they're called muscles i.e. trained muscles

you're also gonna need to drink a hell of a lot more to keep your system clean

Disadvantages- higher IQ for vegans (meat eaters get a decent amount from diet)

Funny joke. Everyone laughs.

The correct answer

nah, that's just part and parcel living in a city. the "average" that determines an 'average person' is rapidly declining.
livestream it if you go full roid rage tho

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Anyone else get bloated in the face after taking this stuff?

how is the b12 working for you user?

Yea, a little bloating after loading phase

Bullshit, if they were shitting out the whole capsule it means that the Creatine inside didn't even make it to their stomach

Is loading phase a meme or not? Feels fucking retarded to take that much a day.

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would you rather feel retarded or look retarded? your choice, brother.

30yo boomer here with shit health, underweight for my height and was feeling terrible for like a year straight with docs unable to figure out whats wrong, super tired all the time with shit tier sleep and headaches, i started taking 5mg creatine like 3 weeks ago and while my shit isnt fixed its better, noticeably better.

also im pretty sure most of you are using this wrong, like putting it into a protein shake and downing it, have you ever mixed it into straight water? noticed how it barely mixes at all? and thats in plain water, i imagine it mixes even less in a shake that already has a bunch of protein in it.

i mix the powder into a warm glass of water until it all dissolved, it takes some time, but not bowel issues this way and i know im absorbing is all.

Yes, it's a meme perpetuated by manufacturers so you will buy more and more. Creatine works by being stored in your muscles so they thought increasing the concentration at first will result in faster creatine stored on your muscles. Research then showed that it does increases creatine concentration faster than not loading but the benefits from it are not proportional since adding a few more reps a week before doesn't translate into a great muscle development because surprise surprise, muscle takes a while to grow and stimulus gets you so far. Just keep taking 5g everyday

Piano man snorted it, so drink it unless you wanna die and then get called for cocaine after you are dead

Do you guys take it with apple or grape juice?