Alcohol is the biggest gains goblin known to man

dont want to lower my iq by smoking the homo lettuce like you did faggot, though you are right about alcohol

>spending 1/3 of your income for some gay lettuce

K milk drinker

Weed and alcohol are for plebs. Phenylethylamine is the thinking man's drug

>started smoking at start of summer
>gained 40 pounds
>stopped going to classes (physics and calc)
>actively ignored all my friends
weed is great, but it varies from person to person if it’s right for them

Agreed but I still drink on occasion since it can be fun and makes social events easy... been about 2 weeks since my last drink

bruh how much PEA should i take to feel something

>reduces testosterone
No it doesn't.
>reduces muscle protein synthesis
A little bit. Don't drink it after hypertrophy heavy days and keep your tolerance low. This isn't a problem if you're not an alcoholic.
>reduces metabolism
That's impossible.
>longer time to burn fat making cutting very difficult
You're a pussy if it's difficult to eat less.
>is addictive
Because you're a pussy.
Weed is pretty fun for bulking though. Wouldn't recommend it to a girl like you though because it'll make you forget to lift.

I see people talk mad shit about alcohol, but answer this simple question: does it have any impact at all if I am drinking no more than one unit per day (with rare exceptions) around 3 times a week?

Half a gram 3 times a day. It's basically the drug from the movie limitless.

>is more fun
It's not so fun when you literally cant go a day without smoking and its eating up all your money
>t. former addict

Also it causes acne, I looked like a pizza faced neckbeard when I was smoking but I literally haven't had a breakout in years since i quit. And it is a gains goblin, the majority of people will eat a ton of junk food when they smoke it

that's bad sure. But alcoholism fucking kills you

Yeah, it'll effect protein synthesis. Not nearly enough to keep you dyel, but enough that you'd stay off of it during the training cycle for a competition or something.
It's also empty calories, but still, a beer a day is the difference between Mr Olympia and second place. Not the difference between jacked and dyel.

I never defended alcohol in my post, but yeah you're right - alcohol is a lot worse

Weed is a PED for relaxation

Say no to all drugs.

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>going to jail
imagine living in a fly-over state

subhuman

This. Makes me escape into digital worlds and eat a bunch of food. Good maybe once a month but will fuck your gains up if you smoke on the reg

Alcohol also dehydrates your skin. Pre mature aging apparently

dude weed LMAO

>Marijuana on the other hand
will fuck with your hormones and give you tits. stay away from that garbage

shouldn't you be shitting on a street and doing heroin like the rest of your state?

>phenylethylamine

It's broken down extremely fast

>Weed raises Estrogen levels: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

>Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone): ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

>Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

>Weed Causes Depression And Anxiety Disorders: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23795762 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14616175 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032500/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149055/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773900 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10750321 journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122896 journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166005#sec013

>Weed Worsens Symptoms Of Social Anxiety Disorder: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350824/

>Weed Causes Long Term Cognitive Damage: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19630708 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/ jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2484906 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1463999/ journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055821 pnas.org/content/111/47/16913.full ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3593817/

>Weed Causes Psychotic Disorders: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007222 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352721/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/

>Children of Fathers that Smoke Weed More Likely To Suffer Sudden Infant Death Syndrome: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434841

>Weed Legalisation Results In More Frequent Use: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395914000206 journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0143562

>Weed Causes Lung Damage: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16128224 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24384575 nature.com/articles/npjpcrm201671 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094297/ monaldi-archives.org/index.php/macd/article/view/645/633

>Secondhand Weed Smoke Impairs Psychomotor Function And Working Memory: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747424/

>Weed Is Addictive: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3606907/

>Weed Causes Deficits In Dopamine Release: nature.com/mp/journal/v22/n1/full/mp201621a.html

you forgot
>dehydrates you

>[weed] makes me want to avoid all people and do nothing all day
>day
found your problem

Dude weed lmao xD

But the effects are still sustained. Dyor. Also when combined with maois it lasts a long time.

Why do you junkies need alcohol or drugs in the first place? Are your lives that shit? Can you not have fun without substances?

Phenylethylamine is barely a drug. Do you drink coffee?

Yeah cannabis made me severely depressed and psychologically dependent. It also elevated my estrogen. My doctor measured that with blood work and I'm staying clean until September to confirm it's the pot that fucked my hormones up.

Cannabis may be safe short term but it seems so safe you start smoking it all the time and you become no better than an alcoholic.

What the fuck is that? Sound like meth.
OP is talking about weed and alcohol.

> doing any type of drug except (met)amphetamines
> making it

Shrooms, weed, morphines, benzos alcohol and their cohorts destroy you and in return only give pleasure.

Ritalin, adderal, modafinil, ... when used mildly up your productivity like crazy.
I take ADHD drugs once a week if I want to finish a book in one sitting.

If your drugs make you a boring NEET they're bad for you.

As a 40ish year old, I'd say my weed use after high school negatively effected my mind and made my life worse that what it could have been (it brought out social anxiety and depression that I never had before). '
If I could go back in time that's the one thing I would change. I would never smoke. And I would probably never take ecstasy all those times, although they were the absolute peak experiences of my life so I dunno. It's probably better to live life not knowing how close to absolute perfection you can reach. Normal life just can't compare to heaven.

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I would say weed ruined my life pretty much. My anxiety and paranoia got so bad I had psychotic episode. Took me far too long to recover from it and most of 20's were wasted. Anyway thanks for reading my blog

im drinking right now

At least you'll get to behave gay enough to pull chicks.

How about nicotine? Dip?

x is another level. i barely do it but when i do all my other shit has to be perfect.

>Brainlet juice
>meme leaves

Ecstacy is the only good drug

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Shit makes me fucking loopy partner, I'LL PASS. and I'm getting older so I got no friends to drink with anyways. So forced straight edge here I cum.

Yea man, agreed. I started smoking when I was like.. 19 maybe then did it like daily for like 4-5 years and I swear it negatively affected my mood and confidence so much and I didn't even really realize it at the time. But it's hard when your friend group all smoke weed and you just randomly stop one day and they all look at you weird.

It made me more depressed, more anxious, super self critical. A few times near the end of my weed habit I had a few panic attacks from the weed and then I was just like fuck thissss because prior to that I've never had a panic attack in my life and it's the worst feeling ever.

But yea try it once or twice here and there but stay away from LMAO weed culture or you'll turn into a lazy, depressed, anxious loser.

Have you ever drank alcohol or done drugs?

Stop being a faggot and drink red wine.

>contains antioxidants
>boosts immune system
>increases bone density
>reduces the risk of stroke
>reduces the risk of heart disease
>lowers cholesterol
>reduces the risk of diabetes
>reduces the risk of cancer
>improves cognitive function
>promotes longevity

t. French

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On the long-term negative side-effects of weed, do anons here think that with brain training, abstinence and nootropics you can reverse most long-term side effects?

The problem with these is that they're too easy. You can puff on that thing indoors all day long without having to pack a bowl or roll a joint and before you know it you've wasted the entire day.

wine is for fags, though

I smoked daily for 3 years. 4-5 joints a day for a year. 1 per day during the week and 3-4 per day during the week-ends during the 2 other years.
And it was mostly low quality hash.

Stopped two years ago, I'm much better overall than I was before starting. Don't underestimate brain plasticity.

Only in America since you faggots pay 30$ a bottle while we pay it 3€ lmao.

>6
How old are you and when did you start/stop?

thanks user. Been off weed for a month and only thing I regret is the possible long-term effects.

Started at 17, stopped at 20. So I was kinda young.
I was in your shoes user, I know how it feels. You're gonna be fine.

Appreciate it, best of luck. The chans can be toxic but have been a huge help in my life surprisingly taking little red pills here and there.

Kill yourself kike. Weed lowers your IQ with at least 10 points. But sure, go ahead and fry your brain until your own family wont even be able to recognize you.

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Me and my roommate got drunk nearly every day last school year (your mileage may vary, I've since cut back to about twice a week). We both landed on the Dean's list and successfully found paying internships. We also have great social lives and work out regularly. My pothead suitemate failed 3 of his 5 classes due to never attending or studying, and might drop out. He also never worked out and did barely anything productive besides playing guitar. Do with that info what you will.

Just become a Muzzie. Totally disproportionate number of Muzzie NFL players to the entire US population, allowed to have multiple qt 3.14 wives, no alcohol, no drugs, lots of coffee.

Seems like a pretty simple choice.

>some soiboi tells me alcohol is bad
fuck off cunt

Used to do it. Almost dropped the bar on my head when I was benching. Never again.

Sobriety is the way to go. Drugs are for idiots

See, this one doesn’t even make sense. Shitty homeless people exist, but so do the most successful people in the country. Shitty flyover is shit throughout.

Pay your taxes to subsidize my state please. Thank you

that's towards the end of brain development so maybe you didn't do permanent damage

>never do drug
>never use nicotine
>never take caffeine or drink coffee
>if im going to a party i rip 6-10 shots depending on how much I have eaten of tequila or vodka at pregame and chase with mouthful of mixer (like a bitch) and hold one beer for rest of night
I have ascended

Tried before, I was weak as fuck and out of breath. felt like shit every time and wasn't even that drunk.

Based. Fuck weed.

Yeah but if I'm high and boring I can't SEND IT WITH THE BROS

>Weed: Pauper's drug
>Alcohol: Peasant's drug
>Cocaine: Plebeian's drug
>Nicotine: Patrician's drug

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If you can do this without projectile vomiting you arent working out hard enough.

>Lung cancer
>Has no carcinogens in it
okay retard

Based. Frequent drug use is a subhuman past time, but cigarettes are based.
Psychedelics are for brainlets btw.

so how bad is one beer on a resting day once a week

No big deal its like 150 worthless calories. Nothing you cant get away with.

>No it doesn't
>That's impossible
>Source: my ass

only 150? i thought it was like 250 calories for 550ml bottle

Yeah that's about right, I was thinking of a 330 ml can. Still not that big of a deal, just plan your meals accordingly.

Based. Alcohol is literally poison, but I'm not sold on the weed thing.

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what about homemade alcohol
>mead
>kvass
>moonshine

Pot is even worse than alcohol mentally. Either way both are only used by the dregs of society.

......I have a glass of red wine before squatting, I fine I do better for some reason.

I agree 100%. The only acceptable drugs are caffeine nicotine and alcohol but I don't even drink alcohol or coffee. Just hit a vape and smoke a briar wood pipe every once in a while. Sometimes cigarettes and cigars

>Burning anything carbon based
>Breathe it in
You could dehydrate lettuce and smoke it daily and eventually get lung cancer you brainlet.

>smoke a briar wood pipe
Kek

>My Life
>Yes
>No

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don't knock it till' you've tried it. Pipe tobacco is amazing

>marijuana
>more fun
you see that's where you're wrong

lolwut? do a bunch of pushups and you won't get tits.

I won't do anything with it, because it's just some anecdotal bs written by a coping alcoholic

Keep coping

>the only acceptable drugs are the ones my country and society raised me to believe are acceptable
how does it feel to be an npc?