I feel braindead without coffee but I also know its bad

people on Jow Forums will talk bad about coffee but take pre-workout, which has way more useless shit and more caffeine. I like to use coffee as a preworkout. Coffee also has many health benefits.

But drinking more than one or two cups a day can lead to caffeine addiction and/or withdrawal. I don't drink it every day.

You measure it, you fuckwit. There are pieces of equipment that enable you to do that. God, I can't believe you don't know that blood pressure monitors exist.

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You can measure it with a device

For the record, I only drink 1 cup a day (in the morning) but withdrawal still hits me hard after 2PM if I don't drink my daily dose.

imagine being addicted to caffeine.

yikes

if you drink it black it's not bad for you cunt

hahahaha coffeefags cant deny this

water is the only thing u need boy.

I used to drink coffee and ended up being foggy from high to low all the time.

Is one cup of coffee a day acceptable? I normally have one when I arrive to work to better focus. I don't want to fuck up my organs though.

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start drinking instant coffee
now you can consistently judge the strength and quantity, and can taper down with less and less each week.

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It increases your baseline level of stress-related hormones like cortisol and can negatively affect your sleep quality. I still drink it because it helps significantly with coding.

I drink half a fucking gallon a day, sometimes more with some decaf thrown in. But I don't drink energy drinks or use caffeine containing supplements. I should cut back a little, but I'm not showing the signs of increased blood pressure.

I do caffeine pills because im a former sips boi and never got into the bitter. Also super convenient to pop a pill and go sometimes I just dissolve them in my mouth

Yes, me too. Cup of coffee, nice music and code to write. It makes me almost high, but cortisol makes you fat and gay so perhaps I'll have to switch to tea.

Coffee isn't bad tho...

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All these's fags saying it increases stress hormones in your body forget that small amount of stress is good for you. Hints why people say fasting is good because it stresses your body. I just drink enough coffee at 1:30 to get me over the post noon dip in energy and by the time I get to the gym at 4:45 I feel alert still and ready to go but not too amped.

I take pills too. So much easier and gives me far more clarity. But fuck you for dissolving it in your mouth. I did that once and almost puked.

idk i feel like im poisoning or taxing my body with coffee, like after 1 cup I instantly get paranoid and start taking magnesium supplement to calm down and give some healthy things to my body.

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I get super paranoid about 2hrs after drinking with certain beans, and it lasts 3-4hrs after. Must be something chemically in them that causes it.

I've tried switching to tea a few times this year, and switched back quickly when some deadline came up. Slept amazingly when I went off though. I'll get off 100% eventually.

>But saying "coffee is bad" is retarded.
It is literally an addictive drug that makes you dependent on it to even feel 'normal'. Once you are hooked you become a permanently more tired and brainfoggy version of yourself and you can only temporarily counter this by consuming the drug.

Aside from this, coffee DOES reduce the quality of your sleep, even if you think you sleep X amount of hours, the quality of those hours will be less, and caffeine has an inflammatory effect on the gut.

If these things really do not fall under your definition of "bad", then i would really like to what your criteria is.

im fucking weird i know but coffee legit feels like its taxing my body after the good feeling goes away.

coffee does a thing to your nerve system, so if your kinda paranoia about it, this gets accentuated.

There's literally nothing wrong with straight black coffee.

What about this Do you think there is nothing wrong with becoming a lesser version of yourself?
Do you think there is nothing wrong with being dependent on a drug to feel good?
Do you think there is nothing wrong with reduced sleep quality?
Do you think there is nothing wrong with inflammation?

>bad breath
>stains teeth
>bad for gut flora
>increases blood pressure
>addictive even 1 cup causes withdrawal
>you need more and more to feel the same effect
>you feel what water drinkers feel without coffee because you only cure your withdrawal
>makes anxiety worse
>makes you agressive, edgy
>gives stimulation but no motivation

all it gave me is higher sex drive but it went away and i couldnt even fap to porn anymore.

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Don't drink it if you don't like it. People have different tolerance and ability to break down caffeine, it's not good or bad for everybody

the only reason i started drinking is because i saw rich people drink it, elon musk, jeff bezos etc. so i thought it must be good.

If you don't drink coffee, that feeling of tiredness goes from being after 2PM to being all day.
That's just wagecucking for you.

Elon Musk has to take ambien to get to sleep, and sleeps under his desk a few hours a night. Tesla employees are instructed not to go near his desk, in case he randomly fires them: businessinsider.com/elon-musk-reportedly-terrified-tesla-staff-with-his-firing-sprees-2018-12

Probably not a good person to emulate.

A lot of those type of rich people also use cocaine.

He gets shit done though.
Obviously sleep deprivation is going to happen when you're constantly under stress from working. That's just the tradeoff you have to make if you want to accomplish huge things.

True, depends on how much of yourself you want to give away in exchange for productivity.

Ciffer is not necessary to function. It's something a lot of people start using because they have to work late nights and suddenly they "can't function" without it even though most people go 15-20 years of their life not drinking coffee.

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>always anxious, feel like my brain works fast af
>wake up go to PC and spend 12 hours everyday
>no need to go out with friends or get a gf
>always edgy and emotionally dull
>somehow realised others are chilling while im always hyper in videogames and want to perform the best

what the fuck is wrong with me

After a couple of weeks you will be back to normal, just power through it.

Maybe push the coffee till after lunch. Your body is naturally the most rested in the first hours of the day.

Little known fact: 66% of the global population carries one or more -163 C>A polymorphism in the gene that codes for the enzyme that metabolizes caffeine, CYP1A2.
Those with two of this allele (homozygotes) have a “high inducibility” phenotype for CYP1A2 activity, meaning its baseline activity is normal, but in the presence of inducers it can easily be raised to levels seen in ultrarapid metabolizers (people who eliminate caffeine from their blood 3-4x faster than normal)
List of CYP1A2 inducers:
>PAHs, which are chemicals found in cruciferous vegetables, grilled/blackened meat, coffee grounds
>numerous compounds in tobacco smoke
>barbiturates
>probably more we haven’t identified

This enzyme also metabolizes 90% of endogenous melatonin and plays a role in steroidogenesis. I got tested and have only one A allele so this probably doesn’t apply to me as much as some of you, but I get my caffeine in other forms than coffee.

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you measure it

>no need to go out with friends or get a gf
wow I know this feel

>t. never combined with l-theanine
It’s like you enjoy side effects.

> I just drink enough coffee at 1:30 to get me over the post noon dip in energy
I've never experienced this dip in energy. Maybe you should stop drinking coffee

why drink coffee if you get sleep lol fuck coffee

Coffee is a retarded replacement for sleep. Sure you feel less tired because it washes away all that adenosine that you were supposed to have cleared while sleeping, but that’s only one facet of all the restorative processes of sleep. You’re still going to have the effects of sleep deprivation on neurotransmitter levels, stress hormones, hunger hormones, etc

Brainlets be lackin

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>coffee tastes like dirt without sugar
You’re either a child or fat

Tell me about user, why does he wear the device?

neither. what now.

What a pussy. Do you also think oxygen and water are drugs too

This

The introduction of coffee to Europe literally sparked the renaissance.

Is this guy trolling? I’m too uneducated to tell

no i dont, what the fuck? do you even know what a drug is?

Coffee is OK in moderation. You can also drink yerba mate, it has some good sides and holds you longer. Try to take breaks from both. Few times a week with no stimulants. Maybe only mild tea, white or green, to ease the transition. You should feel a difference.

Yeah well now you ended up being faggy from high to low. The trade wasnt worth it.

>withdrawal.
That's just a low after the high. Not withdrawal.

i fuckin love coffee. i know people like preworkout but you cant beat a strong cup imo

Does durden drink coffee

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shut the fuck up already you post this thread every two months, and it's tiring as fuck. If you don't like it then just DON'T FUCKING DRINK IT REEEEEE