MBTI Thread

Why do people sperg out so much at Fe on here? Didn't mommy hug you enough? Or is Fe the reason you're an incel? I'm beyond obsessing over gender stereo types and over came my ego. I used to dislike being a Fe user till I realized it's what got my dick wet. Life must be hard to get so easily triggered at people being considerate of each other.

fuck off normie trash hole

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crying isn't pointless it feels good

i wish i could still cry... but now, i just sit and wonder why... no girl will FUCK me!

crying is more like a tool for me. i only feel the need to when it's been like a year or more and those pesky emotions show up for some reason. i never know why they show up they just do. then i just deal with it alone and while im crying i realize i'm an idiot and it's pathetic and sad and i shouldn't be crying and then my brain sort of takes over from there and realizes i'm just wasting my time because it isn't satisfying or doing anything for me and i'm just being sorry for myself and a loser.

i never got satisfaction from crying. even a few months ago where i got in a drunken fight with my dad and i let my lifelong feefees out and told him he fucked up pretty bad by never being around and never being a real father to me, crying with him and hugging didn't do anything for me. he seemed to get something out of it which was good, but idk maybe i'm just a cold bastard or something because it just doesn't do anything for me. no release, no happiness, not shit. emotions just get in the way and i wish i didn't have them.

Chill the fuck out, sperg. There are other ways to get laid other than looking for a girlfriend or an online hookup.

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>be intp
>im not entp

god damnit

>emotions just get in the way
Get in the way of what? Isn't the entire point of doing anything to satisfy your emotions? What is the goal you are trying to achieve that you feel emotions are getting in the way of?

Anyway I'm fine with crying on my own, it's just melting down into tears when talking to people that I'm ashamed of. Just wondered if anybody had any tips on how to not do that.

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>wondered if anybody had any tips on how to not do that
Avoid whatever is causing you to cry.

You do realize ENFJs irl are gay chads right

How can girls be gay chads...?

>likes men
>teases you about being inferior
I think I get it what you mean.

this post is retarded you're an idiot

Never met a ENFJ grill irl
How enfj girls behave?

>ISFP
>repressing my Fi
>so detached in my speech
>repressed emotions
>narcisstic
so much for being a fuck up

Not sure if I've actually met one, but there was once a coworker I believed to be ENFJ and I just had this warm feeling whenever she talked to me. Despite having that scratchy smokers voice, she had this soft, smooth tone whenever she's talking, when she's talking up close, but can be a little obnoxiously loud, like an ENFP, when talking at a distance. Unlike ENFPs, she was neat about everything, but not OCD neat; she just shows initiative when she's looking for something to work on. She also thinks out loud and it sometimes makes me wonder if she was actually ENTJ, until an actual ENTJ shift manager got hired and started bitching at everybody for not doing their jobs.

No, you're just acting like an ISTP.

but user being edgy is cool

This is very true, I have been typed as an ISTP multiple times by people in voice chats. Any ideas on how to fix this?

This thread is gay
I should stop coming here, but I still come for some reason

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What are your experiences with INFP types?

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Use more of your Fi and stop repressing your emotions.

Stop coming here, then.

One specific INFP I know has been my shift manager for a couple years. I guess it's the fact we have mutual interests that allows us to get along so well, otherwise I probably wouldn't care much about her. She has a good work ethic compared to others around her age. It's gotten to the point where I now see her somewhat of a sister.

>have a assigment given by gay teacher (not literally, just a bit of cunt)
>group of 4, me, ISTP, INFP turbobeta and okayish IxFJ
>me and ISTP guy abandon the textbook and just fake the end result
>we were the fastest group in our class and we got A's
>about to leave early
>that nigger turbobeta INFP cracked up FOR NO REASON
>cunt teacher changes A's to F's

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Again, I dont know why I'm coming here
Habit of sorts

Cracked up as in guffawing or ratting you guys out?

So, why are you namefagging, now?

Idk why. Either he was retarded or he didnt like us for some reason. I avoid INFPs like plague now.

So, what MBTI is his song?
youtube.com/watch?v=0HbKyllTAfw

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Just looks cool

Pick up smoking and destroy your lungs instead of destroying your eyes
All indecisive cunts

Oh, he ratted you guys out.

It's going to confuse people and cause them to think I'm samefagging.

>It's going to confuse people and cause them to think I'm samefagging
Ok

what do you think of ESTPs?

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16personalities remodeled their website. They have a new test, new questions, and new descriptions.

Everyone uses the 8 functions. Some people (such as yourself, a robot) have poor EF:

>negatively energized by other people
>doesn't understand/wants to acknowledge, identify or interact with other people
>poor communication skills, difficulty expressing themselves
>low empathy

You sound like an uptight whiny bitch. Do whatever you want though.

My dad is an ISFJ. He is TOO polite.

You need to develop a better relationship with your emotions. Rather than address the fact that you're crying, focus on what made you cry.

>there's no point to crying because it won't do anything for you except waste time

Wrong. Dumb INTP. Crying provides relief and releases a bunch of feel good chemicals in the human body. It provides catharsis.

You can be an INTP and be confident, charismatic, sociable, and likeable. You're just an insecure INTP. If you were an ENTP, you would just be an insecure ENTP.

Being a poorfag, depressed, addict ESTP who doesn't have bitches on his arm and the money to do fun shit is true suffering

...
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Easier to deal with than ENTPs.

What is low Fi characterized by?

IF has three contradicting functions, EF, ET, and IT. People who struggle with IF will be better with any of those 3 fuctions. A person with low IF:

>is unsure about what they want for themselves, has no real desires (EF)
>neglects or ignores their true feelings, pretends to be fine and strong when they're not (ET)
>prioritizes the feelings of others over themselves, may be accomodating or a pushover (EF)
>disregards their own emotions, may disregard the emotions of other people; consider emotions "for the weak" (ET or IT)

>16personalities remodeled their website
Still getting ISTP.

You are in INTP territory, so they are tsun for Fe.
I like Fe in itself but it only shines when coupled to Ni, Si makes it look way worse.
t. INTJ

I'll add to this: being unable to tell how others really feel about you or how close a relationship is.

That sounds exactly like low EF though.

EF =interpersonal
IF = personal

Socionics defines it Fi as ethics of relations, and Fe as ethics of emotions. Fe can be expressive/kind because of empathy without being attached to a person, Fi is personal feelings.

In other words, Fe judges the distance between people through objective emotions, what is expressed in that moment. Fi judges the distance between people deep in their hearts or something.

>IF
>EF
>ET
>IT

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Don't forget EN, IN, ES, and IS.

:)

This!

Since he says that he gets no catharsis from crying, I'm guessing that he means that strong negative emotions get in the way of enjoying his day and that he'd rather spend his time not embroiled in bad feelings.

>16personalities remodeled their website. They have a new test, new questions, and new descriptions.

Wow, I didn't expect that. I'll head off and take the test soon.

Nice digits, Turbie-chan!

And do I put myself down a lot? I guess I'm not really technically stupid, though I do tend to think of myself that way sometimes.

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>tfw your best friend is a hot INFJ girl with huge tits

You guys jealous?

Not ENFJ so no.

Why do you like ENFJs better than INFJs?

Fe+Ni = main goal is harmony, people united under common causes, just getting along and be happy, Ni visions are the means and allow for broader understanding of individuals, but it's merely a tool for the goal.
Good people with will to understand others in depth.

Ni+Fe = main goal is the personal vision, Fe values is the means by which the vision is achieved, but not the goal. The Ni vision can be good or bad, but in both cases likely narrow-minded, and due to Fe's nature, not objective, just somehow relatable, like MBTI.
Emotionally manipulative dictator, understanding others only serves their purpose.

jk, ENFJ is simply more directly warm and all, they cute

New 16p results. Thanks for the update, user. Doubt I ever would have checked and noticed myself.

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People IRL call me smart, but I barely know anything, am depressed and want to die.

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>be interested in mbti for a while
>be INFP, always strong Fi
>test again
>be INTP
what happened

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You people act like the test results aren't decided by your answers.
If you got INTP this time it's obvious what you did, you gave more answers for T score.

well no shit, user
I was questioning how a person could go from having Fi as their dominant function to suddenly switch to not only having Ti as the dominant but also now not having any Fi at all.

>user: "my brother died"
>"what happened?"
>user: "he died"

Why are you asking us then? You should know why you gave more T answers.
Also, everyone has all 8 functions, MBTI is a preference, you don't completely lack what's outside the stack, they are just called "shadow" and for one reason or another you will not want to use them for anything serious, or you don't understand them.

Fuck chads we're the real master race

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>Why are you asking us then? You should know why you gave more T answers.
Do you think I would mention it if I knew exactly why and not interested to discuss it?
I dont know exactly why and thought someone could shed some light on it or maybe had a similar experience. Because thats what communication is for, user.
But I guess when talking to autists on a mongolian imageboard for floortiles normal discussion is not something to expect
>they are just called "shadow" and for one reason or another you will not want to use them for anything serious, or you don't understand them.
so why even point out that its a shadow function if it is to be ignored anyway, you fucking autist?

>wake up
>not a ENTJ
I mean, i like being an ENTP, but the lack of drive really ruins it...

What I am trying to say is that obviously we don't know your experiences and all until you don't tell us.
We know the facts, you tested INFP first and now INTP, this could have many reasons: you didn't know yourself enough, you went through some shit that changed your perspective, the tests you are using may be shit, you may have answered what's ideal for you in one of the two tests... basically, not enough information given for anything. My guess is either Te or Fe grip at some point, but that's based on way too less data and assumes your results are actually reflecting your personality.

The point of shadow functions is just knowing your relationship to what's not in your stack since that can be predicted too according to Socionics, as well as telling you that you can use them, mostly ignored because they don't really fit your true self, but you still have a relaionship with them.
You asked how it's even possible you went from Fi to Ti, and the answer is that if for some reason you are using a shadow function(assuming you aren't getting mixed with Fe and Te), and being the demon function of all things, maybe shit went pretty wrong in your life.

tl;dr not enough information

>being this mad already
You are still INFP, better than any personality test.

You are on a board full of pathetic, broken people who refuse to accept responsibility for their shortcomings. Your post makes far too much sense for this place and will bring you nothing more than seething hatred - for you possess an understanding they do not wish to accept.

>>being this mad already
>You are still INFP, better than any personality test.
Yes because you had to be an autist for 2 replies before replying with something constructive. but ur probably right.

>My guess is either Te or Fe grip at some point, but that's based on way too less data and assumes your results are actually reflecting your personality.
>the answer is that if for some reason you are using a shadow function(assuming you aren't getting mixed with Fe and Te), and being the demon function of all things, maybe shit went pretty wrong in your life.
Interesting

>not enough information
yet you still provided me with some interesting hypothesis, wasnt too difficult, was it?

I find more constructive to not just give vague hypothesis and tell you it's needed for a decent guess.
Or basically, my Ne is a shadow function.

ESFJ playground organizer! I haven't seen you here in many moons, mysterious stranger.

So why is having strong morals and values considered one of the defining functions of being an INFJ if Fi is one of their shadow functions?

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That applies to both the F functions.
The i/e determine in which world they originate or operate and what affects them more than anything.

>and what affects them more than anything.

What affects Fe?
What affects Fi?

Fe = "objective" ethics(etiquette), group values, acceptance/rejection based on society - those are what mainly will affect the Fe user's decisions.
Fi = "subjective" ethics(personal honor code), personal values, acceptance/rejection based on self - those are what manily will affect the Fi user's decisions.

Note that there is a big difference between roles, for instance since you are INFJ, you are way more attached to your Ni visions with Fe being a supporting function for ethical decisions - it's F doms who are going to be full moralfags.

>ENTP
>lack of drive
You are doing it wrong, user.

user, explain auxiliary Ti and Fi. I'm Ne dominant but can't figure out my aux/tert functions.

Hmm. Let's parse this down a bit more, there's parts of Fe I relate to and parts that I'm not sure I do. (I know that one user said that I talk about myself too much, but this conversation is helpful for everyone to learn more about Dom/Aux Fe types in general, so meh)

On one hand, I do make many decisions based on how it would impact others. Rather than stand my moral ground no matter how badly it affects my relationship with others (like heavy Fi users might), I generally just go along with what others want, up to and including making major life decisions that I don't want to make. I'm also kind of wishy-washy sometimes in that, if someone politely disagrees with me on something, I'm often influenced by what they think - if only temporarily - and almost feel obligated to agree with them at least partially as thanks for being civil in their disagreement.

On the other hand, though, Fe users are also said to base their morals on what the group (family, culture, whatever) they belong to thinks, and I'm not sure that I do. I actually disagree with common wisdom and what the groups that I belong to think fairly often. I got mad sometimes with the way my family treated my nephew when he was younger, and a few times told them as much - they would shame him and guilt trip and treat him coldly for being shy and reserved, and I didn't like that. The best way to make anyone 'come out of their shell' is to be good to them and make them feel like a likable person, not berate them and make them feel like an unfriendly piece of crap. (He's 11 and much less quiet and shy now, so it's thankfully become a non-issue.)

So yeah. I can relate to the 'wishy-washy people pleaser' aspect of Fe, but not the 'no independent thinking for you' element. Does all this sound more like Fe or Fi?

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How I'm I suppose to read this? I"m I INTP or ISTJ?

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In the case of auxiliary functions it's only about which one you prefer to use generally to support your own self as opposed to be centered on it.

Ti = "subjective" logic(categories, systems, definitions), personal rules drawn from thought, strongly reliant on deductive reasoning(drawing conclusions from known rules)

While I am at it...
Te = "objective" logic(evidence, data, results), impersonal rules drawn from external sources, strongly reliant on inductive reasoning(drawing rules from known data)

Good example of using Fe yet not being the Fe itself, since it's only auxliary, it's their favorite tool, they like to focus and use that, but they aren't naturally that - they are natural on Ni instead.
Btw don't focus on stereotypes too much, obviously Fe can think indipendently regardless of their role in the stack, if ever they aren't gonna to externate it unless they are sure it's not gonna to bring discord.(more willing the lower it is)

Show functions too. Guess too many neutral or contradictory answers aside from I.

Here you go. Don't really know what the functions are for either.

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With Fe this high you're ENFJ

They are talking about Fe uses though.

The namefag thinks he's INFJ

Rough guess: INTJ
Pretty mixed results and I am not sure at all, hence rough guess.

I know, and they seem to be INFJ indeed.

i want to forget all the memories i had with isla damnit sophie the feels

Alternate theory: Ti-Si loop INTP
Loop = you are resisting auxiliary development due to a bad tertiary-related issue(Since it's Si probably negative past experience)

What loop? All I see here are charts.

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Seems to me you are completely lacking the theory.
mbti-notes.tumblr.com/

My ISFJ friend cried whenever Isla died. He is very cute.
I know why it was done for meta reasons, but it seems like a huge waste for them to have only kissed once - during Isla's dying moments - which they couldn't fully enjoy anyway due to the sad circumstances. They should have spent their entire relationship fucking like rabbits.

Mm. I dunno. I'm not sure I relate to the Ni aspects that amount to being psychic, like often having hunches that turn out to be correct (Sometimes, sure, but do I have them more than anyone else? Who knows?), but I can relate very much to all the future-oriented aspects.

I also relate to the idea I've heard a handful of times that INFJs can be pretty iron-fisted when it comes to implementing their Ni vision. It always makes me angry whenever I'm reading about a new technology or medical procedure that can make life better for many people, and the scientist or article writer says that they need to proceed slowly and cautiously (ie let people in miserable situations waste away while those in high places fuck around for years on end).

On this one single, solitary issue, I actually respect the Chinese quite a lot and am glad they're gaining power in the scientific world. When it comes to gene therapy for example, they don't waste time pussyfooting around and taking things cautiously for 'ethical' reasons. They have a goal, they go for it at full speed. That's just how it should be. If you have a way of making the world a better place, of helping make it so that fewer and fewer problems become inescapable, you do everything in your power to make that a reality, you don't fuck around in an effort to cater to Luddites and regular Joes from the peanut gallery who probably haven't given the issue much thought anyway.

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>Ni aspects that amount to being psychic
That's one weird stereotype, I don't think I have ever seen a Ni type relate to it.

They all say "yeah I think about future consequences and have hunches".

Hello fellow INTJ and others. How are things so far?

Even the simple idea of having hunches with great regularity that turn out to be correct is getting too much into ESP territory for me, I think. It happens sometimes with me, absolutely, but there's no way of telling whether it's a more frequent thing with me than with anyone else (and in some ways, I'm the textbook opposite - I'm a trusting person to the point of being gullible).

I think the "N = Psychic" element is probably where the discrimination against Sensors comes from. To be lazy and quote what I said a couple of threads ago

>So, I guess Si would be more like assuming that the future will emulate the past? Whereas Ni typically comes up with ways that the future can differ from the present and past? (Assuming that such is the case; obviously, some things do change slowly, or perhaps even don't change at all)

That sounds a lot more down-to-earth than the usual "Intuitives are fundamentally different creatures from normal human beings that magically know the answers to things and live in a higher plane of existence where the five senses are not needed for anything ever, and Sensors are literal-minded to the point of being autistic and can't understand anything unless it's spelled out slowly in the most concrete and detailed manner possible."

Let me give you a quote I found about Ni:
>Because of its prescience and depth of insight, Ni may at times seem to border on magical or supernatural. While not discounting it impressiveness, the Ni process can, at least to some extent, be rationally explicated. Namely, INTJs' inferior function, Extraverted Sensing (Se), unconsciously collects vast quantities of sensory information from the outside world. This data is then kindly forwarded to Ni, which tries to make sense of it, like assembling the pieces of a puzzle. Eventually, an impression is formed that reveals the deeper reality or N pattern behind the data.

Hello there

Well, I am Ne dominant and hunches just don't stop. Like, ever. You start doing something and 9999 ways thing can transform into constantly pop up. I guess Ni dominants can relate to this, thoug with introverted direction - seeing all connecrions to aome idea, I guess.

Ni is introverted so tends not just look at the possibilities, but their subjective impression of them.
I think this translates in them giving "this isn't likely, this is likely, this is not going to happen" judgements without backup.