How do I determine if it's worth it to stick around?
How do I determine if it's worth it to stick around?
ehh, go with your gut instinct and commit to it
read the book "how to die" by Seneca. its most likely not worth being alive but at least make an informed decision.
Well, logically it makes sense for me to off myself. But the vast majority of people have a survival instinct even if it's actually detrimental.
Pros to living:
>maybe an 8% chance of a decent future
Cons to living:
>huge amount of baggage from the past
>absolutely abysmal mental health history
>terrible work ethic to intelligence ratio
>will likely never have the life or relationships I want for various reasons
>will constantly be reminded of how bad the world is
>will be ugly for a long time, maybe forever (this is actually a main one that contributes to many other issues)
>NEET with little hope of getting a job before I go back to uni
Is it free on the clear or dark net?
Just realized the "pro" is a con too. Fml.
its a book that you can buy at barnes and nobel
I don't want to spend much money on it if I don't absolutely have to because I have expensive things I need to save for if I decide to continue this sorry existence.
Quit using societal variables or base instinct as a measurement. Do not even use Fantasy. Go out somewhere and just walk around. Go explore an antique shop. Visit historical sites. Go camping. Just learn to love being alone first. Don't just wander thinking mean things about yourself. Unchain you brain from its standard routine. As everyone here learns. The world might "love" you in a way. But it sure as fuck does not care. If you want to judge life. You must be alone, non-judgmental, and clearheaded. You must seek to hear the whisper of wind. Alone, not even with your thoughts. Life, as a thing that occurs. Isn't social. It isn't logical. It isn't divine. So you must be alone, quieted mind, and willing to wander. If you only ever pursue life, or a reason to live. You will only find death. You have to live, and reason. Not pursue it. No, a thread isn't going to help. It is the pursuit of such things.
Well, why not? You're going to die anyway, might as well stick around and try to make the best of your short span on this Earth. No matter how hard it may seem, get out there and do something. Take a walk somewhere nice and get out of your head. You're experiencing life this very moment. Clear your thoughts about everything, stop mentally masturbating about stupid shit and seemingly bad things, depression, or, that way of thinking twists your thoughts to make things seem more fucked up than they are. You have to change your perception. It took me years to get my mind out of the shithole, and I couldn't even tell you how it happened but you can do it too, friend. Set goals no matter what they are and work on them. Make your own purpose. All of this is gonna be very vague because this all is very personal and not something that can be put into words. Everything comes from within.
Be honest with yourself. Reading some good philosophical works is what did a lot for me.
Bump because I need time to reply to the long comments above
>Go out somewhere and just walk around. Go explore an antique shop. Visit historical sites. Go camping. Just learn to love being alone first. Don't just wander thinking mean things about yourself. Unchain you brain from its standard routine. As everyone here learns.
I can afford to do some of these things, but I am very low on money, live with my parents, and don't have my driving license yet.
>You must seek to hear the whisper of wind. Alone, not even with your thoughts. Life, as a thing that occurs. Isn't social. It isn't logical. It isn't divine. So you must be alone, quieted mind, and willing to wander. If you only ever pursue life, or a reason to live. You will only find death. You have to live, and reason. Not pursue it. No, a thread isn't going to help. It is the pursuit of such things.
What?
Look man, my work ethic is very bad and i suck at being a person. I've accomplished quite a bit as a teen, but I always, without fail, come mentally crashing down. It's never worth it for very long. Maybe making the best of my time here is not not have much more at all. Seems like a fool's errand to try to stick around after none of the many, many mental health treatments I've gotten has kept me out of the depths long term.
at this point I'd just change my course completely
people getting forever stuck in their first decisions and interpretations of life can be a sad thing
Well, you saw the list. Where is the wiggle room to totally change course? Much of that stuff consists of things I can't change right now.
>I've accomplished quite a bit as a teen, but I always, without fail, come mentally crashing down.
I used to go through shit like this in what i would compare to a manic state. A good run of working toward my goals followed by a severe depression that could last for a couple months or longer. It took years but my mind has seemed to level out. I dont experience the lows or highs that I used to. I miss the highs of creativity and accomplishment but most of the time I wouldn't trade it for the overall mental stability that I have. Long story short I grew out of it but it took about a decade. I agree with other brobot on the philosophy. Marcus aurelius put some real perspective on shit for me.
Ever heard of libgen.io
My highs are already mostly lukewarm and hardly worth sticking around for. I don't want to experience life like some sort of drone.
No, why?
a bad life is better than no life
Why?
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something>nothing
id prefer staying alive and experience all the stimuli and extremes life got to offer than closing all doors
Marcus Aurelius's Meditations changed my life and my thought patterns
You can download pretty much every book in existence on libgen
what constitutes a terrible work ethic to intelligence ratio? i'd assume it's a lot worse to have good work ethic and poor intelligence than the other way around. at least if it's the other way around you could preserve your self esteem
It is obvious to me that you have either never lived a bad life, or you're delusional. Please keep your shitty opinion away. Oh, you like suffering? Do you? That is not suffering then!
I would like to get in shape and see how good I look for at least a year before I die
I'm a skelly.
Thank you.
I mean... yeah, exactly. What do you want me to say?
It's not worth it if you are even thinking about ending it, it will make all your problem and worry disappear all while making regret impossible
So you've never thought about ending it?
It could be the right choice for me, don't get me wrong, but it may be hypocritical if you've been suicidal and haven't done it.