NEET and Hikikomori General Thread

How has your day been Neets and Hikis?


>Neet

>The acronym for (Not In Education Employment Or Vocational Training)

>Hikikomori

>Hikikomori is a Japanese term when translated into English it means pulling inward being confined (acute social withdrawal) in context of a person the term refers to a shut-in who stays home and lives in isolation in their bedroom for 6 months or more

>Most hikikomori are neets and are supported by their parents or get money from the government however if you work or take classes online at home while still not going outside and having very little or no social interaction you are still a hikikomori but not a neet

>Contrary to popular belief most hikikomori go outdoors but are just isolated socially and still spend most of the day and nearly every single day confined at home in their rooms

>The Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare of Japan defines hikikomori as those who have lived in isolation in their bedrooms for at least 6 months do not attend school or leave to go to work have no physical injury or mental disorder as the cause of their isolation have no close friends or few friends (If any) and do not communicate with people besides the people they live with such as family members

>The Hikikomori Criteria and Diagnosis

>1. Subject spends most of the day confined at home, nearly every single day.

>2. Subject purposefully avoids social situations and social relationships

>3. Subject shows clear significant functional impairment,

>4. Subject shows social withdrawal symptoms for .a duration of 6 months or more

>5. Subject has no physical condition nor other psychological problem that is the cause of the social withdrawal

>While hikikomori is mostly a Japanese phenomenon cases of the condition have been found in other countries

People who go to work school or have a social life are not hikikomori.

People who go to work/school are not Neet

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not great. I live with my parents, and my dad has been physically abusive toward me since I was a kid. He got violent with me again about a month ago and I've stopped speaking to him, which has been good for me. Today he kept trying to make me talk to him and it's making me really frustrated. I just want to pretend he doesn't exist. Plus I have a chest infection and am hacking up phlegm constantly.

Fuck user that sucks why haven't you been taken to the hospital?

It was only bad enough to leave bruising. The anxiety it leaves you with is the worst part. I'm genuinely afraid he'll snap and kill me one day and I don't know if that's an overreaction or not.

I've been a NEET living alone for the past 3 years but I don't fit the hikikomori description. I guess it's a good thing because I want working to be less stressful this time.

Hikikomori do exist outside Japan but they are not as common as they are in Japan most western Neets are just average recluses and shut-ins and if not that they go out regularly and have a social life.

>tell family I'm moving out
>don't
>they keep falling for it

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>unemployment agency cutting off my NEETbux because I forgot about an appointment I had with them

Can't believe this shit. I've applied to dozens of jobs but not showing up to some gay feelgood seminar means I starve.

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>Can't believe this shit. I've applied to dozens of jobs but not showing up to some gay feelgood seminar means I starve.


Thats the western world for ya user if you dont have enabling parents or cant support yourself in some way you die.

Why do you do this user what is the reason behind it? story time?

>N33t
>Irish
>30 a week rent
>220 a week for nothing
>free electricity
>2 bedroom house to myself
>drinks all of his money away

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That life sounds pretty damn depressing user just being honest.

>left house for first time in 2 weeks
>applied to jobs, high chance of interview soon
I'm gonna make it lads

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Yeah but then you remind yourself it could be worse

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a week rent
user how did you find such a steal
Is the west country really that cheap?

Yeah I have disability benefit but even normal n33ts on welfare get these benefits (used to be normal n33t)

>high chance of interview soon

Dont get your hopes up on being hired because there is still a stigma around having a gap in your employment history and western society still judges people based on how much success they have had in life i haven't worked in 7 years and 3 years ago when i was looking for work no place wanted to hire me.

>applied to jobs
I didn't apply ofr jobs for 3 years and I've finally started doing it. it's given me a lot of optimism.
I don't fit the description because I have bipolar ocd

I've had legitimate setbacks, but its equal parts laziness. I own a building and I'm going to move in to it, renovate it, and live off of the rental income. But, its still cold at this time of year and I haven't finished up my anime backlog. I'm resting on my laurels, i suppose.

I have a trial day coming up, good luck user.

>zero social interaction for almost a year
>college pal invites me to his house
>there is his gf and her niece that just turned 8
>everyone is playing games, old ones have some beer
>niece start touching my hands and my adam's apple for some reason and saying that she never seen something like that
>get a weird boner
Bros I'm not into lolis wtf

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>don't get your hopes up
Damn straight, hope isn't gonna give me a job.
I've been dressing nice and talking to managers directly - online applications are a meme
>it's given me a lot of optimism
Be aggressive user, and make your face known - you've got it man!
Hell yeah user, work hard bro

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Hi fellow potato nig. What level of education did you make it to? I dropped out at 16 in transition year. I'm 28 now. Presumably you're in a council house? Lucky fucker. (this is my post: ) How did you get one?

best of luck friend.

>not into lolis
pffffhahahahaha, just don't get diagnosed user
or let your parents find out

>tfw I did both

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Hey I also dropped out at 16 thinking I'd be the biggest band in the world but got lucky with the non council house.. 2 bed apartment in the middle of town to myself

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>Bros I'm not into lolis wtf

Sounds like you are and just discovered yourself.

I mean not the real ones

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shit, I was also a mediocre teenage musician. I dropped out because of bullying and mental illness though. I hoped I'd be able to make my music into something but it went nowhere. What part of the country you in bud? I'm in the south east.

>I mean not the real ones

There is nothing wrong with being a pedo user.

Close enough to Dublin lad, brother made me into the musician I wanted to be with all the motivation then gave up once the GF kicked in.. such wasted talent! Also dropped out for mental illness/bullying/ musicians don't need school yo

sup lad, burger here - how much is irish spoken vs english? Been getting around to learning it and visiting in the future

>family left for states generations ago
>nobody remembers where from in Ireland
Trying to find my roots and all that

Who am I even kidding, at this point I would fuck anything as long as no one knows

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don't be crazy now user
>live a normal life

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Don't worry, I will never break the law, but have you seen real CP? I once had 11 gb on my hard drive, and it's fucking disgusting. Nothing in common with the hentai.

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I developed a chronic pain condition a few years ago and I can't play for more than a few minutes at a time now. I wish I'd been able to at least finish the LC to be honest. I might feel like less of a failure.

it's not really spoken at all outside gaeltacht areas or classrooms to be honest. Some people do try to keep it going through meetup groups or cultural events, which I think is admirable but I don't know of a single person who uses it day to day outside those contexts. I went to an Irish language primary school but I've forgotten most of it now. I can have a conversation but I can't really read or write in it.

today was a really comfy day, I went on a long walk but a group of people were on the side walk which was pretty scary so I went home,
I also was on omegle for a while and everyone was really nice to me.
super comfy day, now I'm extra comfy in bed with my kigu on and I thought I looked pretty nice in mirror today and wasn't sad
I hope everyone else had a great day too, lets all do our best tomorrow!

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I love kids too much to enjoy seeing them get raped dude cp is actually pretty fucked. non-nude models is the farthest I go.
That and loli of course (pic related is my waifu)

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>based waifu choice
Too bad in my country men tend to avoid kids because you can get in jail literally by looking at them. Fucking clown world

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I like it but I don't understand wanting to lewd to it!

I came here to relate to my fellow hikineet and it's actually a pedo circlejerk. What the fuck.

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eh, I can relate - I've got a 9 year old half-sister and I try to avoid playing with her too much, especially since my parents know
>>based waifu choice
thanks user! she reminds me of my elementary sweetheart... never got over her I guess kek

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I have been on Tor and seen that shit years ago it was fucking awesome i discovered i was a pedo through that shit i reacted like Satou from NHk when he discovered porn for the first time.

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>non-nude models is the farthest I go.
>That and loli of course (pic rel


Like LauraB shit?

>I came here to relate to my fellow hikineet and it's actually a pedo circlejerk. What the fuck.


Sorry about that user.

wait why, play with her just don't do anything weird and stuff!

me too user and it sucks I'm so uncomfy this has ruined my day especially since I babysit a lot of kids hearing people like this makes me pretty sad..

>LauraB shit
is that a joke?
ehhhh she's very clingly and tomboyish, so with my dad's heavy when I'm around I start to feel a tad uncomfortable to say the least.

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Sorry guys for ruining your thread I guess

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I threw out some small cardboard boxes today that I had been collecting for over 2 years. it's not really worth posting about but my life is boring and this was a small accomplishment.
I really didn't want to throw them out. these boxes were like a physical connection to my past. they had sentimental value to me and I'm not really sure why.
I went through the stack and counted them and while I was counting them I realized something. they're just cardboard clutter and throwing them out doesn't change the happy memories that I have associated with them. I wasn't relieved after getting rid of them but I felt ok with the whole thing. being ok with the small changes like that gives me hope that I'll be ok with changing my NEET ways on a larger scale.

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none of us are advocating for cp or gross shit. It's a diagnosed mental illness user, no bully

>is that a joke?

Yes

>me too user and it sucks I'm so uncomfy this has ruined my day especially since I babysit a lot of kids hearing people like this makes me pretty sad..

Suck it up normalfag a lot of Neets and hikis are pedos.

Well you're not going to lewd her, you're just playing with her because she's family and it makes her life better
the idea that someone can't be around kid without wanting to lewd makes me want to bully but I'll be nice...
I got hurt when I was a young girl so this stuff makes me upset easily

I'm literally trying to be as nice as possible why do you have to be hostile with me?

I cleaned my room for a few hours this week too - it's nowhere near finished, but it looked good enough to let sunlight in for the first time in months
feels comfy desu

>eh, I can relate - I've got a 9 year old half-sister and I try to avoid playing with her too much, especially since my parents know

Seeing little girls out in public makes me depressed because it reminds me that i can never have a relationship with a child i love kids to death to be honest.

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Not him, new unique poster in fact. It is hard to be a peado, specially if you are like me which actually enjoys the true shit.
>I got hurt when I was a young girl
I'm sorry that people like us did that to you :(

I was on that thread. RIP that board.

>enjoys the true shit
this makes me really sad I wish it wasn't this way for you, please never hurt any girls/boys it makes life afterwards really hard to understand
or it did for me

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>please never hurt any girls/boys it
I am not an homosexual, so no boys. I would not touch a girl unless she consented to it.

>Subject has no physical condition nor other psychological problem that is the cause of the social withdrawal
OP does this include Agoraphobia, im trying to grasp it and wanted to check.

it's spring lad, no time for depression - have you seen the bouncing dresses and skirts out yet? Fire of my loins, I can't wait for summer
A lot of us are hidden, but devoted to truly loving and protecting kids. I'd kill the man who would try to touch my sister.
I'm terribly sorry you were taken advantage of...
the more pedophilia is talked about the better the problem can be tackled for future generations

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Even if they consent as a child you still can't do anything, it's going to ruin her ability to understand boundaries later in life, please don't be selfish.

why are you on Jow Forums if you have agoraphobia kek

How young is too young? What age were you molested?

did i say i have agoraphobia? Exactly, i didn't.

I think talking about it and helping kids not fall for grooming tactics is a great idea, I also think 2d loli and stuff is fine and like ddlg obvs I'm super into ddlg and am like always in little space which is probably caused by what happened to me, but I'm short and look youngish so it works out
I do think that sexual contact with children is too far and shouldn't be allowed and I don't think anyone could change my mind on that..
I was abused at 8, far too young.
I think teenage girls shouldn't date adult men currently because it's too easy for them to be manipulated into things imo so 18 for being able to date any age and i think 4 years above once you turn 15 is ok

>it's spring lad, no time for depression - have you seen the bouncing dresses and skirts out yet?

No i haven't im a hikikomori i do not leave the house much and i only get out of my room to eat and use the bathroom the only time i see kids is when i go to the grocery store or McDonald's and i sometimes have anxiety because i get afraid that their parents may know that i am a pedo because sometimes i look at their kids while also trying to make it look like i am doing something else in-fact my pedo attraction is one of the reasons i am a hikikomori user.

I guess it depends how hardcore the definition is or whatever, but I go to family events every few months and I have a couple of online friends who I speak to through text only (voice is too scary).
I managed to attend college for a while but it was too much for me. So I'm NEET now.

For the paedophilia theme, I have no intention of having any sexual contact with any kid, but I'm real looking forward to seeing the children I like running around the house. Hardly ever happens and it frees my soul and temporarily alleviates my anxiety at times.
could be manipulated doesn't mean that it's always manipulation. But yeah, children are groomed from a young age to be subservient to their overlords (piece-of-shit authoritarian parents) so the climate we live in with those same moralistic anti-sex overlords isn't the best time for sex.

no I don't think you should be having sex with teenage girls as an adult man regardless, sorry.

>sorry
>implying I care about your opinion
why would I? who are you to me?

>OP does this include Agoraphobia, im trying to grasp it and wanted to check.


Agoraphobia is more extreme and just a generalized fear of the outdoors hikikomori are basically people who have experienced mental and emotional trauma and are unable to adapt to the society they live in because of the stress and pressure put on them so they refuse to take part in it and hide away in their rooms.

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My attraction age range is 8 to 12. I will not imply that all girls can consent, but what I am saying is that some girls can. You were obviously not mature enough to consent. I was also a kid who sexually matured late (I learned about masturbation at age 11, and only because we had Direct TV, if not, I would had probably learned much later.

>who are you to me?
I'm someone you asked a question lole
I don't think children that young can consent, especially to adult males.
8 is pre puberty.... you shouldn't be lewding stuff pre sexual development..

high school seems like a normal age to start dating more seriously
no sex till marriage though
>>sometimes have anxiety
I feel you lad, I was a normalfag before all this. Then depression, anxiety, NEETdom etc. I only got out today for the first time this spring, It did wonders though.
>some girls can
That's the scary part, there is no objective measure on how exactly to tell, so it's too risky m8. Can you imagine loving a girl with all your heart only to have her be damaged by it?

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i didn't ask you anything but okay
but if you want to state actual arguments instead of just asserting things then you can start doing that any time

>I guess it depends how hardcore the definition is or whatever, but I go to family events every few months and I have a couple of online friends who I speak to through text only (voice is too scary).
>I managed to attend college for a while but it was too much for me. So I'm NEET now.


Well do you fit this description of hikikomori?

The Cabinet Office of Japan describes Hikikomori (Acute Social withdrawal) as the following.

Mostly Male aged 15 to 39 years old sometimes older
The following situation of isolation occurs for more than half a year (6 Months)
I usually stay at home, but I go outside sometimes to a nearby convenience store or for groceries at night
I get out of my bedroom sometimes such as to eat and use the bathroom but not from home
I hardly get out of my bedroom in my parents house or single room apartment
Neet (Not In Education Employment Or Vocational Training)

Those who stay home but still go outside for work/school hobbies/interest and have a social life or are withdrawn as a result of a current condition" such as schizophrenia or a physical illness, or those who stay at home but still do household chores / childcare with "what they usually do when they are at home" and those who are retired or work from home and still leave the house for meetings and interviews are excluded and are not regarded as hikikomori.

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song for you user
it's gonna be alright man - have you sought out psychological services?

>high school seems like a normal age to start dating more seriously no sex till marriage though
I think you're my favorite here user! I like you
>I didn't ask you anything but okay
I thought this was you, but okie

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>you're my favorite here user
kek, thanks. you're pretty strong, you know that?
>actual arguments
this has got to be bait

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Finally got a psychologist. We're working on my social anxiety. It manifests as me breaking out in sweats in any social situation. My thinking is clear but the physiological symptoms are still there. I used to be socially phobic but all my mental anguish from that has dissipated. Hopefully my physical symptoms can be fixed so I can function in life.

We're gonna make it bros. Just need a helping hand.

I got a nasty ass family who torment me in every way. I suffer from what I believe to be a pinched nerve in my lower spine that Ive had for my whole life but has gotten very worse recently whith shooting pains.

My dad got me a good used bike for like 49 bucks. Im taking it to the gas station tomarrow but im nervous sneaky niggers will take it while Im inside. I will probably rip the seat off and take it in with me

I appreciate all the shinobu posting too, I have a cute fig of her I like a lot
>you're pretty stonk
aa
I don't understand, how so?

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ganbatte!
do your best, I believe in you user!!
you can do this!!!

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that's alright, I don't expect someone who appeals to virginity and the institution of marriage to actually thing about morality and social norms beyond tradition and politics of essence.
I don't hold your low iq against you.

>have you sought out psychological services?

Yes they didn't help i fear one day i will fuck a kid and then commit suicide the urge grows everyday even though i do not want to i kinda wish i had never discovered myself fuck imageboards and tor to be honest.

I haven't left my house in months

But I'm still not a hikkimori :)

i want to die vro

you make the nice people in the thread look worst by association.

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How the fuck do I overcome the fear of going outside?? whenever I go and do something outside by myself like going to the gym my mind is just full of insecurities that develop into anxiety

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It's 6am where i live and I've been browsing useless shit on internet for at least 7 hours no stop. It wasn't like this when i had no internet connection at night...

>Finally got a psychologist
>We're gonna make it bros
HELL yeah user, that's the spirit! Springtime will guide us to a brighter future
I squashed my depression today, and might have a job soon. Nowhere to go but up (or out)

>tfw psychologists don't know what to do with you
from childhood trauma to discussing abuse in the belly of the beast? mental strength lv 99 in my book
damn you really need to get some adderall and beat it to lolis for like 2 hours. works wonders, I'm telling you

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that faggot in the picture is a crybaby normalnigger

Today I ordered a mcdonalds delivery. Mom said I should kill myself for wasting money and others people's lifes. I replied she will also kill herself in 30 years when I leave her alone at a public asylum.
...at least I'm not hungry anymore which is nice.

what's wrong vro
it's a habit man. don't do it all at once and overwhelm yourself, take it in pieces. Practice makes perfect, take walks around your city and simply do that head nod or say hello to passerby. Headphones are a good crutch if you need an escape while out

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Keep on keepin' on anons

>damn you really need to get some adderall and beat it to lolis for like 2 hours. works wonders, I'm telling you


Lolicon is a gateway to the real shit also i already have a bunch of legal pictures of kids on my computer and i fap for 2 or 3 hours 3 times everyday

I just wanna talk about what I find important!
I keep my mental str stat boosted by having at least 8 stuffies in my bed at all time also I've been in a kigurumi this whole time so extra safe and comfy bonus effect

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>that faggot in the picture is a crybaby normalnigger

All hikikomori are failed normalfags user.

I think I'd like to have shinobu user on my discord frien list...
they seem like they'd be a nice fren

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>gateway
careful user, that line of thinking is a slippery slope in itself. It seems that you're porn/fap addicted and brood on your low self image a lot. Pysch services didn't help me either, we have to do this ourselves. Start with trying to break your fap addiction with a creative outlet - maybe draw cute girls? With a developing creative talent and less addiction, your self esteem will shoot up, I swear. Get some sun if you can user, it's springtime!
I've got one big stuffie, a giant totoro kek. Kigurumi top tier comfy, if I was a girl I'd wear a bear one like lain
>nice fren
thanks user, I don't have any servers I'm a part of, but I can give you my info?

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