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Is whey worth it? Its a bit expensive here. Why do they sell it a large packs like cant i try them first lol

Whey post work out
Caseína before sleep

Zma is actually legit. Helps me sleep better and shoot bigger loads. Seemed like a meme but it's worth it. Got a month supply for $12. You can buy any brand as long as it's zma.

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Oh yeah thanks, there is one now on the Canadian site with code SAVE50
You'll probably have to go through at least 2 lbs before you notice a difference anyways

I take vitamin D-Omega 3 and ZMA and sometimes also AAKG (arginine).

Not sure if it actually helps. Maybe I shouldn't buy such a cheap brand though

Eh i guess ill try the smallest packet but shit they aint cheap. But im thinking if its more cost efficient than buying canned tuna and chicken breasts

These 2 sites are worth reading if you're curious about zma. Obviously bb.com wants you to buy their stuff but they cite studies. The second link is unbiased and shows the benefits of taking a zinc supplement.

bodybuilding.com/content/the-benefits-of-zma-more-than-a-sleep-supplement.html

examine.com/supplements/zinc/

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Take the zincpill lads

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So I just realized casein is the same price as whey isolate. Should I get casein instead?

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zma is worthless, take zinc and magnesium as seperate supplements. magnesium in the morning and zinc at night.

Does it matter what brand or type of ZMA I take or is the myprotein/bulkpowders good enough?

It won't make you chubby, the water is retained in the muscle. You will experience 4-8 lbs in lean mass gain in the first week.

It improves all of your lifts, gives you more energy to workout, and promotes muscle growth.

Studies of users / non-users demonstrate that it's the #1 most effective substance outside of eating and protein.

Zinc, NOs (arginine and citriline), longjack, and creatine are the only legit ones I've found.

Has anyone here tried yohimbine?
I thought arginine is redundant if you already take citrulline. What about preworkouts?
I heard ZMA legally has to be the same composition, despite brands

Bought 2 1lb tubs for $59, now they list at $149 a tub...?
5 collagen types your body naturally craves, I, II, III, V, and X.
Take with Vitamin C, and My Protein the Whey and a banana.

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Never trust amazon reviews. Me and my gf get sent free shit every week and all we have to do is leave a really positive 5 star review

Fish oil/omegas have pretty much been debunked, don't waste your money. ZMA only provides benefits if you're deficient, which shouldn't happen if you're eating a balanced and healthy diet. Whey, creatine, and if you're in temperate/cloudy areas or stay indoors, vitamin D are the well-researched standards that can benefit just about everybody. Beyond that, I wouldn't recommend wasting money unless your training, recovery, sleep, and diet are on point because each of those will provide vastly more benefit than another supplement.

casein is more anti catabolic as you digest it slowly and whey is for more anabolic purpose as you digest it pretty fast. so it depends when you intend to drink it

What the fuck do mean omegas fatty acids have been "debunked"? Proof?

Whey, citruline malate and PWO that’s it

Thanks I'm gonna hop on a scoop a day of whey/casein (~50g protons), I'm gonna take whey after workouts and caesin before bed like someone mentioned. I get average 120g a day now so I should be around 170 assuming I can eat as much with 2 shakes a day

I'll hop back on creatine because it does work, I'm almost certain I'll retain a bit of water in my face though, it hapens every time. I'll get creapure this time maybe that'll help

not him but studies weren't able to link omega-3 to reduced risk of heart disease, and some brands have oxidized the omega-3 durring processing. I still think it might be a good idea to take them tho

A,D,K2,Zink

Someone help make a test boost stack for me b-but only natural supplements h-haha wouldn't wanna lose my natty card ;)

So far:

-d3
-zma
-Ashwagada or however its written
-horny goats weed
-onions and garlic

Does it matter which brand I buy or whatever I find in amazon/ebay will do?

K2 for the d3
Got zma last week. What is the sleep better stuff supposed to be exactly? Longer or just better in the same amount of time? Never had troubles sleeping, I used to wake up natty at around 7 but now I dont wake up until like 9-10. Gonna suck when uni starts again next month.

I just bought this for zinc sleep and skin gainz.

Literally 20x cheaper per serving than ZMA.
walmart.com/ip/Spring-Valley-Zinc-Caplets-50-mg-200-Ct/10325002

What does ZMA have that could even attempt to justify that price.

Sniffing bubble-butt black girl's brapcannons is the only supplement I need.

I do, daily.

enjoy your hair loss

is this hair loss thing real?

No

now i m scared

almost all of them are snake oil, and those that shill them are getting paid to do so, just keep that in mind.

if youre going to lose your hair because of mpb it will accelerate this. Otherwise no

>ZMA only provides benefits if you're deficient, which shouldn't happen if you're eating a balanced and healthy diet.
Just because you're not deficient doesn't mean you're meeting sufficiency.

What benefit have you gotten from l-glutamine? Wanna know if I should take it

Does anyone use beta-alanine? Does it work to increase endurance? The studies say it is proven to help, but I never hear about anyone supplementing it like they do creatine.

A lot of preworkouts will have it. I've built up a tolerance to it, so i add more to mine. got the bulk supplements bag for free from a buddy.
definitely recommend it; necessary for "the itch"

Ah ok. I don't use preworkout because caffeine ruins my sleep. Do you recommend beta-alanine because of the itch or for actual performance benefits?

I use two different types of preworkout. One with caffeine for morning workouts; without for evening. Guys I work with got me roped into using them. Now I rarely workout without them. If you've gotten this far without preworkouts, I'd say stay away. You can find certain supplements that can give you the "extra" you're looking for. I believe Beta-A is one of them; and I think I have improved endurance at the gym for it. There's others that incorporate NO to the bloodstream, too. Just read a scholarly journal over the effectiveness of beetroot juice for NO. Giving it a try next cycle.

Morning: (with breakfast)
Multi Vit
D3 + K2

Before bed:
ZMA
Omega 3

Anytime:
5g Creatine

Don't know when i should take Creatine i take it when i feel like because i think it tastes very chemically.

I pay around ~45€ for 3 months of supps.

>Caseína
based brazilbro

How essential is casein?
Where do you buy your products?

Yes

Bought some ZMA. Thanks guys. Itll get here by Friday

how do I sign up for this

this

Anybody have experience with St. John’s Wort? My mood has definitely improved from working out but I’m curious what it might do to me if it actually works the way research suggests.

I have anecdotally found these are great for me

>glycine, 5-10g
>theanine, 0.6-1g in the morning
>citrulline, 5g before sex (if I want high octane porn sex)
>ZMA
>30 minutes shirtless (naked preferred) in the sun

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Argentinean user here

It depend on person,if you look daily intake its actually daily avarage. So some people bodys need something less and something more. Also its depentand on your diet. That why you always get people saying that one thing dosent do anything when other say its changed their life. Also taking supplement is endless game. If you take zma you might run in risk of becoming deficient to copper and that way to iron, also magnesium might eat your calsium. So only way to be sure what works is trial and error.

But there are thing that truly work.
Omega-3 is good for almost every one. But it also thins your blood so keep that in mind if you are already on thinners or have surgery coming.
Zma, everyone is endorsing it. So taking it is good just for placebo effect.
Creatine.
Also if you have shitty skin or dry hair take biotin. Only stuff that's dose something, but it wont help for baldness.
Some say boron in hige dose help whit test levels.
Then there is plenty of amnioaccids, pick and chose and try out some of them like glutamine.
Melatonin, lot of people like it.
And finally, if you live in north or stay majority time in indoors, take some vitamin d during winter times. Lot of people play down vitamin d, but your body produces it from sunlight, that stuff is so important to you that you are producing it on your own. So you better make sure you get it.

I think fish oil is fine since the ingredients are literally just the oil of fish. Everything else is bullshit. I firmly believe 90% of them are just made to cheat blood tests because watching my family with deficiencies, they don't get better after taking the B12 shots even though their blood tests come back fine.

Already taking"Herbs of Gold" Men's MultiVit, should I jus swap over to ZMA?

What's the difference between ZMA and just regular magnesium pills? My local pharmacy didn't have ZMA so i opted for magnesium.

all these DYELs thinking taking the magic pill will give them mega gains lole
just eat a varied diet and buy some whey. stop overthinking things. don't take creatine unless you want to go bald

I wouldn't worry about it

> those that shill them are getting paid to do so, just keep that in mind.
Please kill yourself

I never train without a gainer during the workout (fat milk and protein 50+ grams). There's no reason at all to not already consume protein while training if your goal is to gain weight.

bump

Thanks for the advice and recommendation. I don't plan on using preworkout since I feel fine as I am. I will add beta-alanine to my supplementation since the studies show they have proven efficacy, and your anecdote backs it up. In my eyes it seems like creatine and beta-alanine should be a standard supplement since they're both proven to work and complement each other in increasing strength and endurance.
I did a little research on NO supplements like L-arginine, citrulline, and beetroot juice. I'm not convinced they're necessary or that they provide the stated benefit. I'll keep my eye on future beetroot juice research though. I just want to be sure what I'm supplementing works.

yohimbine + caffine works pretty well at curbing hunger and feeling pretty energetic during workouts. The only downside of yohimbine ive found are all the raging boners i get

take creatine pre or post workout with some juice. Mix and drink quickly

How's that a downside?

Protein powder is the cheapest form of protein by far if you buy 2.5kilo bags. So even if you buy a more premium brand, the price per gram protein is still much lower than lets say canned tuna or eggs, which are some of the cheapest foods high in protein.
Also, drinking a well tasting bcaa or whey shake is something to look forward to after a hard workout you dont have that psychological factor with the disgusting shit on your picture, but thats my personal taste obviously. I have bought probably about 15kg total off of myprotein and every single flavor that I tasted was absolutely terrible, which makes you wonder if its maybe the low quality ingredients that just dont allow for a better taste.

I buy 5kg bags from myprotein. Costs like 50 bucks

casein is just slowly digested whey. I'm gonna start taking a scoop of whey after workouts and a scoop of casein before bed. I'm doing it to supplement ~50g protons into my diet because I only get like 120g now

Well and if there would be 10kg bags then these would be even cheaper relatively. What I meant is whey powder bought in bulk is very cheap are you happy now?

5HTP
ZMA
Iron
Cod Liver Oil
Omega 3 6 9
Creatine
BCAAs

Why would you supplement omega 6?

babbies first supplement! just ordered myprotein's whey 1kg only cause im poor. i cant believe they cost a lot here? its like 30 bucks for 1kg. i dont live in the us

There's promo codes for 40% off in Canada right now and yesterday it was 50% off. I'm currently waiting for it to go back to 50 before ordering because. Also you save ordering bulk and free shipping over $90

try FAST50 or SAVE50

im from asia lmao where do i put these codes? i used nutrition depot. man i hope the 1kg will last long for me? how long before it runs out?

BCAA morning w 2g beta alanine

1 scoop WPI lunch

BCAA + Preworkout before workout
1 or 2 scoop WPI w/creatine post workout

Casein and GABA before bed

I guess they don't do the deals there. I think if you take a scoop a day it should last like 3 months.

3 months? thats not too bad then! is it okay to only use 1 scoop per day? i think i need around 170g of protein per day. is it achievable?

I’ve never been happy

>never been happy yet
Ftfy, user. You'll make it one day.

>user says zinc will give me wet dreams if i combine with no fap
>take 3 extra strength zinc pills before bed
>have intensely vivid dream where my crush kills herself by jumping in front of a semi truck
>spend what seems like forever in this dream crying and in shock
>wake up with face in a pool of tears and drool on my pillow
>blanket has been kicked off the bed and im cold af
never taking that shit again

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but it was wet, wasn't it?

ZMA has Zinc, MAgnesium and often vitamin B6

I got ZMA included with a bunch of stuff I bought. I looked up what it does and seems to be a big meme. Any studies out there that show otherwise or is it just bro science?

sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190626125034.htm

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One 8-week study in 27 football players showed taking a ZMA supplement daily significantly increased muscle strength, functional power, and testosterone and IGF-1 levels

However, another 8-week study in 42 resistance-trained men found that taking a ZMA supplement daily did not raise testosterone or IGF-1 levels when compared to a placebo. Furthermore, it did not improve body composition or exercise performance

What’s more, a study in 14 healthy men who exercised regularly showed that taking a ZMA supplement daily for 8 weeks did not raise total or free blood testosterone levels

It’s worth noting that one of the authors of the study that found ZMA improved athletic performance has ownership in the company that produced the specific ZMA supplement. That same company also helped fund the study, so there may be a conflict of interest

Apparently the football experiment was run and funded by the guy that created ZMA though

Kek

Yeah nothing wrong with a scoop a day, a scoop is only 22g of protein though so you're gonna need about 150g from normal food

22g is a lot i think already since i eat a lot of meat anyway for lunch and dinner. then tuna and chickpeas for snacks. i think thats enough i hope

just eat right and you won't need any

>zma

Proved useless shit

>It's got what joints crave

Does it matter which brand I buy or whatever I find in amazon/ebay will do?