Height and shoulder width are 99.9% of what girls care about when it comes to body. Lifting is a cope.
>prove me wrong
Bideltoid
Most people here will not disagree with your first point. Lifting accentuates your body shape. Furthermore lifting is about being the strongest/most capable you can be.
I have naturally wide shoulders and ribcage but I like lifting so I lift
Who knows better about what women do and don’t like than a khv like you
Post body
guy on the left is only 5'11"
It's not just the shoulder to waist ratio, it's the overall aesthetics regarding divine proportions (1.618)
The ideal human figure is comprised of what's called the "X-Frame", which is shown on Leonardo Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man"
The more your proportions and ratios relate to the ratio 1.618, the more beautiful you become, so beauty can be intrinsically calculated with mathematics.
Also im 6’5
Based
Also post body to anyone that thinks they have a small frame. People's frames are only different by a few inches. Go look at some recent pics of Arnold or Zane and you'll see that their frame looks slightly above average. Normies and retards can't seem to recognize that muscle-mass plays a WAY bigger role in how wide/thick a man looks than it's given credit for. A framelet that can ohp 180 for reps mogs the ever-loving shit out of the untrained chad
Nice timestamp faggot
Either you're lying or you actually used an old imgur post you made.
Both make you a fag, opinion discarded
the only cope is basing your life on what brainless women think about fucking anything
Based and truth pilled.
Go look up Chris Hemsworth before he bulked up... he has narrow clavicles and is kind of a framelet, yet with some muscle mass added he is widely regarded as "broad shouldered". Unless you are at one end of the extreme with regards to frame size, it really does not matter as much -- lot's want to point to it as some uncontrollable reason for why they are destined to never make it. Cope.
cope
post timestamped body
and what happens when you get big lats and shoulders?
did you skip leg day?
He skipped leg year.
What if I'm 6'4" with great shoulders, but I'm a turbo-wristlet and calflet?
is my frame good? going to start training soon
ht: 5'10" (on a good day)
wt: 135 (on a good day)
Anyone can look like they have a nice shoulder:waist ratio if they contort their body like that
Post your body doing that pose then
What are the most important lifts for wideness other than ohp?
Skeleton PROTIP:
Because your arms will never be large, your shoulders will always look larger than they actually are, assuming you train them effectively. This is the hidden gift of starting as a skeleton.
can confirm. 185 lbs with a 1 pl8 ohp, my arms are tiny but my shoulders look massive already comparatively.
>implying you cant add anywhere from 2-6inches+ to your shoulder width from exersizing and posture.
both look disgusting
>6 fucking inches
You are batshit insane. Adding 2 total inches would be fucking crazy. I can still touch bone in my shoulders and I'm 180lbs lean at 5'10.
22 inch bideltoid width 6'1 height not ugly. Still a virgin. Xd
Go out.
>just be yourself and do some pushups before bed brah