For the millionth time, nofap's effects are not a fucking placebo

>this graph mocking vegans was made by the owner of a butcher shop? Must immediately be bullshit

Reading The Loser was a hard one to swallow for me. Shit that's accurate

actual porn addiction is a real thing.
so quitting both porn and masturbation is the only way to quit porn addiction.
also sex and masturbation both drain energy.
don't discourage people who are trying to quit porn. of course their lives will revolve around keeping nofap streaks, when youre addicted to porn it's a huge problem.

>tfw self-aware but even the frustration of blue balls can't get me laid
meh

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well... some people do it because they have a gf.... i dont but i dont do it a few days before i see her....thats not in any of those categories tho... and whats funny about mocking stoics? you are gay I believe

Bruh I know porn is bad but I have all these positive traits you have listet without doing nofap. It's a meme get over it. Get a few hobbies, start meeting up with other people, educate yourself and get maybe a gf so you can finally have sex. As long you don't masturbate everyday there is nothing to worry about.

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don't worry, keep going. we are all GMI

How long is needed to cure deathgrip syndrome?

Meat eating is holy, pornography is jewish

I do 7-day cycles for gains. The period after I jack off is the worst part of my week. I reset earlier today and I just feel like shit.

Practice NOPORN instead of NOFAP you retard.

porn

>Day 79 of Nofap
>My abscence of noodle doodling has given me supernatural powers, not unlike those wielded by the glorious nazis of old
>Energy levels are through the roof
>Even helped my mom cook pasta today and cleaned my room
>Keep breaking new records of concentration
>Managed to watch a full 20 mins of jordan peterson before tabbing to Jow Forums
>Social powers elevated as well
>Took the bus all by myself down to the mall
>Bought a redbull at a store, looked cashier in the eye twice and said "thank you" with a firm, clear voice
>Notice older man outside the store, just sitting there
>Hat in his hands, begging for pennies
>Ask him where his drive is, why dont you just buy a house
>He doesnt even answer
>Kick him on the foot
>Grumbles something angrily but doesnt have the balls to get up in my face about it
>As I thought, no divine rage
>How often do you wank, I ask him with a smug grin
>He calls me a perv and asks me to leave
>Looks like we have a wanker
>Walk backwards away from him, making a wanking motion towards my crotch
>Ejaculate into a powerstance as I turn around and exit the mall
>Laugh on the bus heading home, the world is my oyster
>Mom asks me if I asked around for a job
>Tell her the truth, I have ascended beyond
>Spend rest of evening in my room doing a well earned 7 hours on Jow Forums
>Big 80 coming up tomorrow, need my rest
>Round the night off with 2 hours of facebook
>Notice my friend Chris got engaged and bought a house
>Chuckle softly as I type a comment
>"Cool story bro, but how long have you gone by not diddlying your dingus?"
>No reply, comment removed, how shocking
>Laugh diabolically as I notice the time marking the begging of day 80 of Nofap
>Mom is sobbing quietly in the room nearby, I feel nothing
>Unstoppable

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>>feeling extreme brain fog
This is the sign of addiction.
I was addicted to nicotene and alcohol after my shift I just wanted to get a nice lip and have some drinks.
After I quit I started to feel great.
If you truly have some pshycological attachment to masturbation/porn then I can see an improvement from cutting it out of your life, however "nofap" is a meme.
Get addicted to a real psychoactive chemical and then complain about your "dopamine releases" ruining your chances with womens.

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kek, pretty much what nofap does for you. False sense of accomplishment that will leave you procrastinating your life away happily. Just keep doing nothing and it will all sort itself out :^)

Kek. Yeah. That's me

i dont care if theyre placebo i genuinely am more confident and get more things done around the house when i'm on it
placebo or not it works for me faggot

>working at the pool
>some fat guy comes up to me with his chest puffed
>starts talking incoherent stuff like "d-d-d-do you know your ABCs?"
>smile awkwardly and say yes
>mumbles "c-cuz...give you...alphabet"
>proceeds to 360 moonwalk away while avoiding eye contact
>later see him by the edge of the pool just staring at one spot

honestly freaked me out guys, what was wrong with him?

yes they are, im 45 days in and nothing changed

0 wet dreams btw

>no libido
>don't jerk off for months at a time
>been like this for over a year

super powers huh

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You should ask your doctors about your tlevels and discuss your sexual health (even if you get no action).
If you're under the age of 50 and can't maintain a rock hard erection with a woman then you might have some issues.
If your sexual experience is 100% jacking it, maybe you just depressed.
I stopped even getting stimulated by naked women*(on screen) when I was at my worst. GF could get me good, but unfortunately the depression and anxiety drove her away.

Aaah I coomed. Pic related. Just a quick cheeky afternoon wank. Still lifting and eating healthy. Ahh. I feel good. No porn, just lewd qts. And like once/week

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let the coomposting begin

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had em tested, 409 is 'normal' apparently. Won't give me the juice, maybe I should get some back alley chinese man juice on my own

If you can't get it up with a woman, and you are reading at a normal level, and it's not just nerves (performance anxiety) then you could have jacked (lel) your shit up with """le deathgrip""".
But seriously, if sexy women (or men, no hate) don't get you excited, you might have some pshycological disorder you should really talk about. You don't need to get on meds, just look for some reason your junk isn't working and talk to your doctor about it. You might want to look into a shrink if you can afford it because I hear they do wonders as long as you get a good on that doesn't just throw meds at you.

For the millionth time, overconsumption of pornography is dopamine seeking behaviour which is the RESULT of a larger underlying problem.

Nofap will not cure you, you are so out of touch with your sexuality that you associate expressing sexual urges with negative emotions which all happen to be relayed to shame and insecurity.

Im not trying to encourage anyone to avoid confronting unhealthy habits, but fixating on things like nofap or no-whatever is only hindering your progress to be a happier person because it is a flat out misguided attempt at solving a larger problem

t.a person who used to watch porn 3+times a day

I'm seeing a therapist now. I used to be a porn addict, so I figured this was just the "flatlining" period but after a year I'm thinking it might be something else. I think it might be test. I read symptoms can appear at 200 below an "actual" normal level

any1 who is saying nofap is fake placebo is 200% a piece of shit gay nigger normie who's never been addicted to porn.

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Why do you think jews are right about the effects of porn? Do you actually trust any of their beleifs, user?

I assume it is possible to be addicted to the "dopamine release" which was an actual argument against video games of all things in the early 00s (now considered an actual addiction).
I am guessing it is much more than just a porn addiction though from strictly annecdotal evidence from my own life of frequent masturbation for the past 17 years.
Hopefully you will get the help that you need, don't be afraid to let everything out, they need to know every little nuance to accurately diagnose you and you are strictly confidential (unless you break some crimes or some shit).
If they offer any meds, unless it's viagra or something I'm sure it will only push your issue farther so might want to turn that down.
Just curious not a doctor or anything and you don't need to answer anything: how old are you and have you had thoughts of suicide or felt like you have had no future in the past few months/year that you started to 'flatline'?

18 yo zoomie here I don't wanna watch porn or fap again either. after a few months of nofap it is really easy and it feels amazing when girls sperg out and when you get so many compliments. even professors told me I got prettier multiple times when I was on a streak lol

>""""addicted"""" to porn

There is nobody on earth pathetic enough to believe this, but I still give you 4/10 for a solid attempt

It's really easy to get those responses regardless of masturbatory habits as long as you're attractive and maintain some sense of style (and aren't autistic or have anxiety).

Some people spend hours a day looking for "the video" the right moment to climax. Of course they don't have physical withdrawls like a dope addict, they aren't scratching like a crack addict, but they have some kind of release in the medium that they crave.
It is called a psychological dependance, similar to "marijuana addiction".

nice, keep flooding nofap threads with your cunt autism.
imagine not being able to understand how addiction works.
you're fucking retarded. go back to /gif/ and make big cooms faggot.

I do get compliments and get called charismatic/charming but when I'm on nofap it's like that but on steroids, definately not gonna fap or watch porn for a looooong time. feels so good

Help me.

If it works, then keep it going mate.
I stopped getting hammered and using drugs and I noticed a lot of women taking interest in me.
Too bad I didn't stop this shit in college.
Either way, enjoy the ride. If nofap truly has helped you then good for you.

Once again Jow Forums mixes cause with effect. You aren't a pathetic faux-masculine manchild with an unfulfilling life because you have a porn addiction, you have a porn addiction because your life is so unfulfilling the only thing keeping you going is the dopamine release which you get everytime you jack it.

Curbing your porn usage and frequent masturbation are fine by themselves, but so many people have cucked themselves into thinking that it's a silver bullet that will make all their problems go away. It's understandable - conducting a proper self-introspection is difficult. Recognizing your own flaws and working dilligently to improve is difficult. Self-improvement is a hard, arduous process. That's why so many people keep falling for all this snake oil, because it's easy and it makes them feel better about themselves. "Oh there's nothing deeply wrong with me and how I approach life, all my problems in life can be reduced to this one single habit I have and if I overcome it my life will immediately improve."

No, it won't. It won't because you aren't tackling the core issue. There is a giant fucking hole in your heart. And that giant fucking vacuum is inevitably going to be filled by fucking porn. If you aren't able to actually replace the porn with fulfilling relationships with other people and hobbies your heart will remain hollow, and if it does porn will inevitably find its way there again.

NOFAP is a scam made by weak people to make themselves feel better about themselves, sold to people who don't want to confront the truth and would rather indulge in escapist fantasies created precisely so they can shield themselves from reality. You're all Shinji and Raiden, taking the easy way out instead of manning up, facing the ACTUAL problem and fucking fixing it.

Get a fucking hold of yourselves retards.

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I wonder who is behind this post

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>t. Rabbi the porn industry investor

This shit's some peak cope lol

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t. seething cumbrains

I'm about to complete one week and it feelsgoodman, no more degenerate shit. I feel different, even if the test boost is a myth, something happens in your brain, you start functioning normally.

By the looks of the photo nofap makes you unable to spell words anymore

This is 100% true. Most people addicted to porn aren’t doing jack shit.
T. 60+ days

To truly nofap (abstain from PMO) you need to get off of Jow Forums/nel and basically the internet as whole especially including social media sites.
If you are posting on this website, you are exposed to hundreds of images, whether inadvertantly or not, or beautiful ripped men or sexy chiseled or "high test" womem with half their clothing on.
Coming to 4 channel and saying you're nofap is like going onto pornhub and saying you only watch the clothed shit.
GTFO (Get The Fuck Out) and explore some nature you literal pieces of shit.

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You know what works better than nofap? Healthy diet and exercise. Fucking retards just lift stop obsessing over your inability to tug on your Weiner

>taking the time to make this
>for Jow Forums

instead of typing up a novella and then posting it on an anonymous imageboard why don’t you go find some friends who can give you something better to do with your one lifetime

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C O P E

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Just take steroids

cope with what lmao unlike you I can go for months without fapping and watching porn but porn's probably not degenerate enough for you so go bust a nut to hentai or some tranny shit

>be me
>27m
>no autism or social anxiety, reasonably fit
>all around a halfling (half normie, half online addict)
>have a nice gf and regular sex
>decide to try nofap for exactly 3 months while still having regular sex
>literally the only thing that has changed is that I cum much quicker now and that my dick restoration time after I have cum is much longer now.
>fuck this
>start fapping again.
>all the same, except that I last longer while having sex and can start right again after cumming.

Honestly, if nofap is HELPING YOU, then by all means do it and I wish you all the best. However, don't force it if it does nothing for you and don't treat it as a panacea.

>taking the time to make this for a Cambodian spear chucking forum

I think we know who the real loser here is.

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Same results here.
Except I last longer than my gf can so it ends up like hotdogging some sandpaper and I either push it to the end and she ends up sore or I stop and she gets upset I didn't finish.
I guess I'd rather finish when we are both horny and still able to satisfy her than the alternative or dissappointment.

Says the fag posting in 4chin

Lube mate... I thought it was only something for women who had problems to get wet and/or older females... hell no, it isn't! It makes sex so much better, no matter how wet she can get and especially if you are using a condom.

Look bro, I wrote a moderately thorough analysis into the true causes of porn addiction and how to properly solve it, as well the pathology of the people who buy it and why they do so, WHILE ALSO adding besto waifu Ryuko for you to gawk at. What have you done precisely besides posting stale Jow Forums memes and refusing to tackle anything I said? You're everything I explained was wrong about NOFAP cucks - more concerned with maintaining an echo chamber than confronting the uncomfortable truths about themselves.

You got two options - either fucking man up and write an intelligent reply to what I have said so far; or poast physique. Because frankly, if you're actually jacked (or have good enough social skills to get someone else jacked to take a picture for you, which means you actually HAVE friends) you actually might not be a 100% degenerate. Don't take this as an admission of defeat; take it as a get out of jail free card.

I do sincerely hope you learn something from this convo and fix your ways, cuz if you're this defensive about my post I probably encapsulated your entire being into a single post.

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Every time I go on nofap I start to get severe homicidal thoughts and i want to rape/kill most women I see. I also get more of an urge to have sex with gross girls, like fatties, old ladies, trannies, blacks, etc.
My mind loses clarity and I get angry easily.
Fuck off.

People don't actually fall for this garbage right?

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Maybe I'll suggest it to her, she is self concious about it all as in if I don't finish... I don't know how she will react to lube t bh, she thinks that's only for porn stars and anal stuff.

>implying Jews are even human

start it off as something to make massages better and just make everything nice and wet with it, after the massage just have regular sex and she'll be sold on it.

>t. Nigger

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200iq response

Great idea; I regularly massage her but either dry or with lotion. But when she is feeling especially horny I will bring some out.
Any brand you can recommend. Don't want to bring some shit out that will start a fire on her back or something.

damn what a wall of reddit spaced text I must've hit a nerve. interesting how you call people who don't fap cucks while you get off to cartoons of females getting fucked by other men

How does one fill the heart void in a way that is real, healthy and productive?

this is why you dont circumcise your children

You're right, that 108-115 average Ashkenazi IQ probably means they're superior to regular humans. Not that you're actually a regular human and not a subterranian worm.

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Behold, the highest form of debate

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>implying I had any choice
Funny because things like tattoos are an abomination from GOD but chopping the skin of a little boy and sucking ((())) or bandaging the wound is acceptable.

Am from Europe, and for most brands here you have to go to an actual sex shop or order it online.

Durex is nice, does the job well, but is OVERPRICED. Still, to start it off from somewhere, I would recommend them. Easy to get, they are everywhere literally, and as a "Trial" not too expensive while keeping quality high and reliable, and being surely mild enough not to bother even the more sensitive among us. You can shop around afterwards if you both like it.

If you are into oral, buy the ones with flavor, it's actually pretty decent.

Also, note that it really does make a great difference to massage and have sex with some random oily stuff that makes it easier to massage and penetrate, and actual dedicated lube. Also, if you do it with a condom, water based is a MUST, because some oils are known to damage the condoms and make them more prone to breaks. Last, but not least, you can't put "too much" lube. Ever. Literally drown in it and enjoy.

She has an IUD, but honestly wouldn't mind making a life with her even if an accident.
I guess I will suggest we hit an adult store though and look around, I am getting off blue board areas now but I love the taste she has so I guess I'll enjoy that before rubbing her down.
I just wish she could go longer than 30 minutes and then go again right after, maybe this will help. Emotionally I am all in but maybe I have the problem.

Come on cuck. Poast physique.

That is a somewhat difficult question. But that is precisely my point - this shit ain't easy. It's hard, grueling and not everyone can succeed at it. I do think however there are a couple of principles one must adhere to:

1. The universe does not exist for you or because of you. You must eschew narcissism and embrace humbleness.
2. Reject sollipsism - life can only be fulfilling through engagement with others. To do this, one must learn true empathy - understand people for who they really are, not as their existence pertains to yours. Understanding the latter is also important, but only after the former. People who approach the latter usually do so through a narcissistic, needy lense, instead of a truly empathic one.
3. Always struggle to self improve. You're never the best you can be.

Again, I'm not expert in this, I'm trying just as hard to fix my own shit. However, this can only be approached with a certain mindset, one that I do sincerely believe I hold. Often times, the first step is the most important one.

Yeah
Every reference experience is a good one as long as we learn from it.

It might become best thing that ever happened to you.

>Poast
seething so hard that you can't type. you "poast" it first cumbrain cuck. you would ask for a picture of my face after that

Manipulation skills 2/10.
You are being too obivious.

Will only partially fix dopamine sensitivity,
But not fix issue with prolactin induced down regulation of androgen receptors, that will also affect you dopamine and chronic serotonin levels.

Wow i really didn't take your for this much of a cuck

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kek, pretty much what porn and fapping does for you. False sense of accomplishment that will leave you procrastinating your life away happily. Just keep doing nothing and it will all sort itself out :^)

This.
The hackbook mentions this. The page was called "False Incentives" or something like that. Quitting porn is easy. There is no need to be neurotic about it.

Imagine you were determined to quit playing videogames. Would you call yourself a "Nogamer?" And join a forum online called "Nogames?" Where you and a bunch of your nogamer "brothers" who have decided not to play videogames, sit around and talk about avoiding videogames all the time? They set counters that track the days that read "X days since last game played." And if they ever play a game they say that they've "relapsed" and then beat themselves up for it and feel miserable and guilty. Sounds ridiculous right? Why not just uninstall all your games, sell your consoles/pc, and direct all that time and energy somewhere else?

That's exactly what you are doing when you call yourself a "nofapper" or "norporner" or whatever. You are taking something that you do not want to do, and then constantly reminding yourself of how much you DON'T want to be doing it. It's like putting a note on your wall that says "don't push the big red button."
If you say you have quit porn, but your life still revolves around it, then you aren't truly free from your addiction.

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keep projecting and fapping to things such as picture you attached

>nofap is not a placebo! I was able to talk to a girl and look people in the eye!
Oh, you mean things most people can do normally? Impressive!

I mean, improving everything else in my life was great. Like cooking myself, doing homework at uni and not drinking much. NoFap just made it better (also the Testosterone helps me work out).

Fucking copers need to just pin 200mg of test e a week and take caber if prolactin is such an issue

Broke a 14 day streak and came in my gf during reverse cow. No brain fog bc no porn but my voice does feel less deep and I'm not as confident.

whenever i do no fap i find myself tempted to edge or stroke my dick the second im sitting in bed or in a chair. its fucked up that this addiction is so bad

does no fap get cancelled out if you have sex?

fucking kek

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this seems more like a YOU thing than a porn thing. I'm totally comfortable faping before a date or whatever.