>past year fapping to porn 4-5 times a day >lose all motivation and brain is a mess >stop going to the gym due to anxiety and laziness >I see myself ugly and unworthy of anything, feel like I cant do anything >feel guilty as fuck but still fap to porn
unironically switch up your setup, go some place. use that time to be completely free from masturbation, porn, and even screens. after a while your dopamine reactions will start to go back to normal. worked for me
Isaiah Cox
there's no recovering from being a spambrain. just kill yourself now to end the suffering
Alexander Smith
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Ethan Baker
Not joking, you need a physical barrier. Get a CB-6000. Often, the only way to stop something is to make it physically impossible
Brandon Ramirez
>checked
get back in the gym. If you don't have motivation to workout, you go to the gym anyways and you sit there until your 1.5 hour is up. Once you're there you might be more motivated to do something. Im at the gym, 3 times a week. If I pulled something and need an extra rest day, i'll rest at the gym. If im sick i'll stay home so I don't get others sick.
Go there and read for an hour. Stretch, do something. If you talk yourself out of going even once you'll talk yourself out of it a thousand times.
You can stop being a cumbrain by not feeding your dopamine addiction all the time. If you're like most people on Jow Forums you probably spend a lot of time here, play videogames, watch dumb youtube videos, use social media, watch porn etc compulsively.
Limit that or eliminate it all together. Start doing activities that require consistent concentration and have delayed rewards (reading books, going through an online course things like that). Modern sources of entertainment fuck up your thinking and concentration and turn you into a brainlet constantly seeking cheap excitement.
Ian James
the problem is going to the gym for some reason getting trough the cashier is the biggest anxiety ratehr than working out
Brandon Wilson
Zinc, magnesium and some other crap is lost during orgasm
Samuel Nelson
you are addicted. get professional help.
Xavier Campbell
what would this do??
James Cox
Already explained in the post.
I haven't been around so I don't know what the fuck this dumb meme is or what science it's based on, but if the gist of it is that masturbation -> lowered dopamine activity and response -> high serum prolactin -> lack of motivation/fatigue/etc., then taking a dopamine agonist that specifically reduces serum prolactin would address both of the root chemical causes and start to revert whatever symptoms were actually being caused by those two things.
Caber is already pretty popular in BB circles because it counteracts the prolactin increase from tren and nandrolone + addresses prolactin-induced libido issues + reduces/eliminates refractory period when you fuck, so. Not hard to find from the same places you'd find other steroid-adjacent medicines (your PCTs and what have you).
Jose Adams
>taking fucking cabergoline instead of simply, idk NOT Masturbating?
Brayden Perry
Masturbating is natural you fucking retard, no matter how much Jow Forums tries to guilt trip you about it like an evangelical grandma. Plenty of normal ass people masturbate every day and live their lives perfectly fine, have normal sex lives on top of it, lead successful careers, etc.
If you have to "stop masturbating" to get shit done, your problems go deeper than whether or not you touch your dick, and you should probably get some bloodwork done.
Colton Morris
Watching porn is not natural. Only extremely recently in history have humans been masturbating to porn.
>Plenty of normal ass people masturbate every day and live their lives perfectly fine, have normal sex lives on top of it, lead successful careers, etc.
That doesn't mean it's healthy or beneficial, does it? Lots of people never lift weights or do any cardio and have normal sex lives and have successful careers too but yet we're on a fitness board and know that lifting and doing cardio is good for you.
Juan James
The thing that works is the thing you know you have to do: just stop watching porn and jerking off. I did and it worked but fuck it was hard
Luke Gray
Stop watching porn and stop visiting this website. It's that simple.
>Only extremely recently in history have humans been masturbating to porn.
This is 100% false. The only difference is that before the early 1900s it used to be drawn/still images/etc and not video-based -- even the first well-known porn video is from fucking 1915 you doofus. Look up "A Free Ride."
>That doesn't mean it's healthy or beneficial, does it?
The basis of the meme isn't about whether or not it's "healthy or beneficial," it's trying to actively argue that it's a detriment, which isn't provably true for normal, well-functioning people with healthy endocrine systems.
Additionally, there ARE positive effects, mostly in the realm of stress and sleep.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Go play Christian Grandma to people on Jow Forums some more about touching their peepees sending them to hell or w/e tho
Alexander Perry
you leave Jow Forums and the rest of Jow Forums for a extended amount of time
>ceasing to masturbate is an idiotic goal, it's a natural behaviour >however, limit your fapping, try to 'fast' as long as possible >masturbate to your imagination, or pictures of attractive women (this very board is constantly spammed with these so it shouldn't be a problem), sex scenes from normal movies, whatever you can find that is not porn >only masturbate when you get aroused, don't initiate it just because you're bored >basically you're rewiring yourself to once more become attracted to women instead of degeneracy and violence >block porn websites, I've blocked Jow Forums domain on localhost so I can't access boards with porn allowed >find a higher purpose to not watching porn, for me it's a political conviction that it's evil. The better reason, the more resolve >shame yourself by imagining other people's reactions to your porn use - would you show that video you've just fapped to on a date with a girl you like? To your mom? Authority figure? Living or historical person you admire? Would you like your browsing history exposed on the internet? No, so don't do it, you're not the kind of person who watches porn >find a replacement activity to immediately do when you get an urge to fap. Eat a snack, smoke a cigarette, do some exercises, read a book, go for a walk, talk to your mom - anything that will get you away from the screen
I made it, you can too, I believe in you.
Kayden Murphy
Cavemen didn't wank to porn, they did it to their imagination.
Robert Evans
>The only difference is that before the early 1900s it used to be drawn/still images/etc and not video-based -- even the first well-known porn video is from fucking 1915 you doofus. Look up "A Free Ride."
Was it anything like modern porn with professional makeup artists, perfect lighting and camera angles, plastic surgery and so on?
Did any "extreme genres" that are commonplace on the main page under "popular videos" of any pornsite like incest, cuckolding, gangbangs and so on exist? Was ANY of this that accessible "back in the day"?
Shut the fuck up idiot it's a new problem and we're only beginning to see the issues of porn addiction because it's still new.
Grayson Mitchell
>porn/sex addiction is normal and you're a christian grandma if you disagree
Evan Butler
>suggesting smoking cigarettes instead of watching porn
Are you genuinely retard bro?
Easton Gutierrez
>here take this pill and just keep masturbating, goy! >it's perfectly normal, trust me!
Eli Garcia
imagine being so addicted to porn you have to post on an internet forum to justify it to strangers
John Wright
>This is 100% false. The only difference is that before the early 1900s it used to be drawn/still images/etc and not video-based -- even the first well-known porn video is from fucking 1915 you doofus. Look up "A Free Ride."
Was anything like modern porn widely accessible before the 20th century? Cumshots, gangbangs, BDSM, anal, deepthroating, normalised violence and degradation in general? I doubt so, is 100% right.
If he's already a smoker, it's a good alternative. In drug rehab maintaining a previous smoking habit is actually encouraged as it gives an outlet to compulsive behaviour and doesn't distract from quitting the much more serious addiction.
No cavemen totally engaged in cuckoldry and incest all the time user it's natural and if you don't agree you are simply a Christian boomer. Double, triple even quadruple anal penetration was totally normal even before the 16th century.
Now shut up and load up pornhub.
Jaxon Price
>Was anything like modern porn widely accessible before the 20th century? Cumshots, gangbangs, BDSM, anal, deepthroating, normalised violence and degradation in general?
A lot of ancient art is about degrading enemies via sexual violence. The romans did it, the aztecs did it, ...
Brandon Nelson
Cigarette addiction causes much more damage than porn addiction. It's rather been a porn adict than a cigarrete one. I can suggest reading, writing, drawing, doing exercise, go for a walk....that are healthy options to distract from porn
Zachary Ward
Cavemen also died at 30 years old, arguing from antiquity is moronic.
>m-muh camera angles and fake incest change the way masturbation effects dopamine and prolactin in this argument based on the premise that it's bad because dopamine and prolactin
Big brainlet energy.
I literally don't even watch porn. The point is that porn in and of itself is not:
• a new concept • any more or less harmful from a chemical/endocrine POV than "masturbating to your imagination like the cavemen" or any other forms of porn throughout history • the reason for your failures in life
Go get some bloodwork done if you think your motivation levels suck or that you have no energy throughout the day. It isn't touching your dick that's causing it, and even if it were, it takes one pill to address both root causes you're trying to argue re: dopamine and PRL.
Adrian Gonzalez
>hey I'm going to kill my cell brains with porn but it's okay because you know...Double, triple even quadruple anal penetration was totally normal even before the 16th century hehe
James Barnes
>jacking off to three dicks in an ass is chemically different to my brain and body than jacking off to one, my endocrine system totally knows the difference
Chase Davis
>>m-muh camera angles and fake incest change the way masturbation effects dopamine and prolactin in this argument based on the premise that it's bad because dopamine and prolactin
Yes, getting addicted to seeing unnatural women is unhealthy because you're literally associating sexual pleasure with something that doesn't exist IRL.
>I don't watch porn >... but im going to keep defending it and make all these ridiculous arguments for why you SHOULD watch porn and why it's actually totally healthy and good for you!
Do you run a pornsite or something? Holy shit.
Asher Carter
>Training my brain to associate sexual pleasure with women getting railed by a 15 inch BBC is totally normal, my brain literally can't tell the difference between normal sex men and women have together in real life and porn
Mason Parker
What a world we live in, where opposing what's basically a hate propaganda on steroids makes you a religious fundamentalist. (just in case: yes I get the irony).
>A lot of ancient art is about degrading enemies via sexual violence. The romans did it, the aztecs did it, .. So according to modern porn, women in general, even family members are the enemy to be violently degraded. So normal, so wholesome, only some senile boomer could oppose exposing young men to it.
>Cigarette addiction causes much more damage than porn addiction. I disagree. Cigarettes might give you cancer in the future, porn destroys your mind and dare I say soul every day you watch it. And I suggested other options too, I just assumed someone reading my post might be a smoker already, I'm not encouraging anyone to start smoking.
>based on the premise that it's bad because dopamine and prolactin Where did I suggest that premise?
>my endocrine system totally knows the difference Again, cuck, who said anything about the endocrine system at all? Also, humour me further: isn't a brain a little more complicated that that? Does it not learn to associate these three dicks with positive feelings, as it does in literally any other case? Even animals exhibit this pattern of behaviour. Seconding
Justin Morris
>4-5 times a day
I barely manage to go once every couple of days, going twice a day is physically uncomfortable for me. I don't understand how someone can sustain such a high frequency. It's pretty much unimagineable for me.
Joshua Perez
>training muh brain
I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand, but the premise of this goofy ass meme is that it "affects dopamine and prolactin."
Your dopamine receptors and subsequent prolactin production don't know the difference between what you jack off to. You "training your brain" to prefer certain TYPES of stimulation is your own retarded ass need to escalate and has nothing to do with your endocrine system or how it's going to respond.
>Where did I suggest that premise >who said anything about the endocrine system at all
Have you even looked at the meme in the OP of the post you're responding to you absolute fucking moron?
Dominic Cook
How can you say porn isn't a new concept? Think in the caveman, they probably hid behind threes and fapped watching hairy cavewomans and now you can literally watch prople from all around the world doing any kind of sexual acts in the comfort of your room
How that's not a new concept?
Zachary Evans
>taking a painkiller is chemically different to my brain than shooting up black tar heroin, my endocrine sistem totally knows the difference
>Have you even looked at the meme in the OP of the post you're responding to you absolute fucking moron? Have you even noticed, you plucked-out chicken, that multiple people you've responded to in this thread haven't referenced the meme at all?
Bentley Ward
>think in the caveman
I see you're already there.
Also, already addressed in an older post, but porn has been around much longer than you seem to realize.
Also x2, arguing from antiquity is retarded. "DURR CAVEMAN" that died at an average of 30 years old and could barely verbally communicate is not exactly the ideal representation of mental and physical health.
Porn has existed about as long as recorded history, here's some from the wall of a brothel in Pompeii.
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE INTERNET ADDICTION VERSION OF THIS PIC I SAW IT ONCE AND CAN'T FIND IT ANYMORE THANK YOU
Jaxon Carter
Once your lungs or your heart is fucked up you're fucked up for life. That irreversibly factor makes (for me) cigarette more dangerous than porn. It's true that porn destroy your soul but you can "rebuild" your soul
Hudson Morales
Dont be white
Ian Turner
So cellphones and internet are not new concepts because communication has existed since the Greeks or even Egyptians
Aiden Perry
Read esoteric literature about nut retention. Don't give into the lust phantom. Gain control your animal instincts and finally become human.
Julian Nelson
>a picture of a couple having sex >modern porn
I think the other user was wrong, you've actually never watched porn in your life and thus don't understand the problem at all.
It takes a long time and a serious addiction to do this, and you may die from a thousand other causes. Anyway, it's not a binary choice, you can not watch porn, not smoke a pack a day, not be an alcoholic, maintain a strong and capable body etc. at the same time. I think you can at least agree that it's better to be a smoking addict than to be a smoking addict AND watch porn.
Juan Miller
For all u autists good with computers should hack porn sites to send them no fap n yourbrainonporn ads. Like cigarette warnings.
>believing the average age of death meme Those have always been skewed by infant mortality rates. People weren't dropping dead at 30. If you could make it past like 10 you had good odds of living a full life.
Justin Taylor
Other primates are only seen masturbating in captivity. What mean?
Angel Barnes
Okay, but what is the sauce on that pic?
Elijah Harris
>Cavemen also died at 30 years old, arguing from antiquity is moronic. Bullshit.