Is there any reason not to use roids?

They’re expensive. Side effects. Feeling that one cycle isn’t enough and getting hooked.

That’s not what everyone on /fraud/ said but they might be coping. I don’t know who to believe when it comes to roids

>As much of a tool as Dan Bilzerian is, this is a pretty good example of what can be done with a low dose cycle.
and he looks awful pretty bad because has that gross roidgut that anyone who knows anything about lifting will spot from a mile away. not worth sacrificing your health and reputation for.

if you roid then you can break through your genetic ceiling permanently, but off cycle you will still shrink even if you now have slightly higher muscle mass potential

They're not expensive, but the rest is right.
You can buy test really cheap, and it is easier with the Internet.

Left looks better. Why do people think the vascularity on steroids looks good? It makes you look like you have weird little bugs crawling under your skin trying to get out

The problem with roids is once you're on them you're going to need to be personally responsible for managing your bodies endocrine system for the rest of your life. If you wanna just stop using them cold turkey than you are going to look way shittier than you would if you had never touched them in the first place. Its a big commitment, not something that should be taken lightly.

This man said the truth, your natural testosterone levels are going to be lower so as soon as you stop roofing, you'll lose a lot of gains. Because of that you develop an addiction to steroids so you're always cruising on roofs.

Yeah but it really depends on genetics, you could put on 20lbs of muscle and get shredded from a low dose cycle or you could get gyno, go bald, and have ur nuts shut down while making only small gains you’ll lose as soon as you get off. It’s really a game of chance brah

Steroid bodies are gross. Why do straight guys want to look like dried up beef jerkies?
Also fat mac cutest mac

Please post body twinky boi, do some twinks actually like a buff guy that’s like 20%bf? Not near as fat as Mac got but a bit more muscular, please I need to know, for science.

bro stop your body dysmorphia cringe.
you can have a good body with hard work. the faggots that take roids want to be BEYOND jacked.
it's pretty fucked and gross.
just be happy with your genetic limit.
also fuck that super strict die and OCD training shit. Just lift, be healthy, fuck women, play Oblivion, and die.

>do some twinks actually like a buff guy that’s like 20%bf?
I can't speak for all, but there's definitely lot of twinks out there that love them. For me, a cute belly is a nice plus.

using roids for aesthetics is like using a lambo to buy groceries.
go for it.

I personally train natty for my sculpted skinny-fat physique, but if I had connections and testing and lab work done, it would be very safe and efficient.

All this time wasted thinking I could only be found attractive if I was 10%bf or less. Fuckin women complain about some girl who’s barely in shape being unrealistic body standards while the standard for a dude requires roids

>TLDR: SOCIETY

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You can, but only for specific purposes
It was a big thing in cycling. Do a hard ride, get totally depleted and natural test drops. Slap test patch on balls and get a boost in recovery without going above natural levels. I would guess micro injections would work on a cutting diet when again test levels are consistently lower than they should be. But this is just bro science and it might be futile anyway.

thats a great image

Have another image.

Every man can be portrayed in this image, how deep are you willing to go?

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>Implying you can't take a light cycle or two of roids and look juicy bit everyone will still think you're natty

Yeah bro sorry. Taking some roids won't make you look like an ifbb pro. You need a buttload of roids and extreme training and diet to even come close

You stupid retards. I thought I was totally in the dark about the "widespread" use of roids in gyms, like most nattys until Jow Forums "redpilled" me and told me that "everyone who's aesthetic and not a fat fuck is on roids bruh lmao". Well you're all fucking retarded. I've been accused of being on roids by normies and stupid retards on Jow Forums and i'm on the EXTREME low end of the scale.

I've had conversations and made friendships with trusted guys deep in the bodybuilding scene who everyone (including normies and not just Jow Forums blackpillfags with shit genetics who cope and accuse everyone on being on roids to make up for their shortcomings) have accused of being on roids because they have an impressive physique. I've straight up asked them to their face, looked them in their eyes and they told me they're natty in an absolutely non-condescending way with no reason to lie.

99% of these non-extreme physiques are natty, you just cope and tell yourself that it requires gear because you're a fat nogains fucking retard with no discipline and trying to make excuses. I know you think that you're special and know a dirty secret "every big guy at the gym is on gear bruh lol like 50% of the gym population is on the shit xDD normies don't even know haha i'm so smart and redpilled lol compounds only it's either big or shredded as a natty not both 3x5 everyone who does 8-12 and is big is on roids lol" but that's actually complete cope.

Get your fucking shit together

You're delusional asshat.

But I *like* dedication and hard work

I mean, I exercise cause it makes me feel great, I enjoy eating clean also. looking decent is just a bonus. also iv very reactive to drugs off all kinds and thus the possible side effects from roids puts me off completely.

>Is there any reason not to use roids?
Your mom will be sad

Hilarious fellow redditor, have an upvote xD

based

not based

Dan has cash money to afford proper docs and endocrine specialists. /Fit will end up with Chinese bought crap or a dodgy clinic that takes your money and doesn't give a shit about your future health

Cannot get over how badly his hips fuck over everything in the aesthetics department.

Just do PCT

Reading threads like these really shows how misinformed people are about steroids

Is it the test or the hgh that makes Dan's face look weird?

You can achieve pretty much same results on a all beef and eggs diet. Pic related, Vince Gironda who preached such diet pre-roids era.

On the down side: you only get to eat beef and eggs, skipping alcohol, party food etc but that might be good depending on your goals (self improvement x partying)

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Smol pee pee

>thinking there exists such a thing as natural bodybuilders

Oh my sweet summerchild

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Literally roids weren't available in Vince Gironda era
Later he became Arnold's coach during golden era

Why have a job when you can just steal everything?

sigh, there is no such thing as natural bodybuilding

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Yea, roids are near impossible to get

as easy to order online as anything else. literally the easiest step of the process.

I went down the road of legal steroids

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Dream market? I have to order it from another country cause there isn't any seller from my country and risk that customs find it out..

i can only speak for myself but i wouldnt order from another country. i find probably 30 sites to buy from easily if i just google around a bit and i live in a small shithole country.

Doesn't affect your dick

Like 10 minutes of googling and them maybe another 10 to find out if they are reputable

Customs might nab your parcel but some places offer free reships, customs don't really care too much

Because looking fit literally does nothing for you unless you're doing well socially anyway, but lifting for years will turn you into a disciplined hardened autist that is capable of making it. The eternal grind will destroy any precocieved notions that making it should be fun, quick and easy.