How do you promote fitness in a democratic/capitalist country?

How do you promote fitness in a democratic/capitalist country?

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What's the point of promoting fitness when people actively choose not to listen and to change their lifestyle because its too inconvenient?

There's no point in promoting it. Just do it yourself and allow those who realize they are fucking themselves up to come around. The world is too far-gone with all the instant gratification. You can instantly look up anything. You can watch a 5 minute video on your history paper, hop on fortnite, die, get back in, die, repeat 20 times, jack off and eat before bed. Nobody wants to wait, much less work for, months to years for their health.

Pay people to get fit

1) fuck off to pop
2) show people how much it sucks to not be able to use your body

No need. Just let idiots be idiots and lower the bar for fugs even further.
Literally just stop caring about other people. Idiots only ever further your goals.

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giving a shit that OTHER people are fat

don't

just get fit yourself and let all the lazy fucks who failed be a means to artificially inflating the value and difficulty of getting fit.

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Government mandated fitness programs.

increase taxes for fatasses and deny them medical insurances

don't worry about it, people need to come to that realization on their own, and the vast majority won't and they will get older complain how everything hurts, take a thousand pills, and die before collecting a nickel of social security, they are weak

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and this only

>they are weak
I would shame you for saying it like that, if most of them weren't pieces of shit besides their unhealthy lifestyles.

most people are shit, once you come to that realization you'll be able to get on with your life easier

When climate change starts to get really bad and 40c weather is common in northern NA and Europe during the summer and our governments start banning personal motor transport or have to introduce food rationing fat people will no longer be a problem

Enjoy our dumb crises while they last because actualy ones are coming

Forbid women working outside of the home, revoke their vote.
A big reason we are in this mess is working mothers didn't pass down how to cook.
>but people can just use youtube!
Yeah but mostly they don't. We had a system that worked before and now it doesn't. I don't think it's just having the opportunity to learn to cook either I think women have to have taking care of a family properly modeled to them by their mother.

agreed user
once you stop giving a shit life gets a hell of a lot easier

It's okay to say that for individuals but when the problem becomes as widespread as this one your system is fucked up and you need to fix your system.

But Arab women are fat af

good luck with that, we tried to get kids to eat healthier and get some exercise outside like pre internet days and people threw a fit

>democratic/capitalist country
By promoting traditional values and social expectations towards those values.

Aka anti-liberal progressivism, and anti-consumerism.

The Boy Scouts were a good example of this back in the day.
Organized religion was also beneficial. Sloth and gluttony are sins after all. You'll be hard pressed to find an obese mormon.

"Progressivism" has done away with both tradition and religion in Western Culture.

Glad to see likeminded individuals here.

When greenland is done melting the sea level will rise 20ft, that doesn't even factor in other glaciers melting at the same time. Soon the middle east will not be able to support human life. When the people from the coastal areas, and people from the hot zones/drought zones start moving in mass, then the real fun starts.

fitness is 5% of the battle and doesn't mean anything if the other 95% (what we eat) is both garbage and consumed in excess

Relentless bullying and shaming

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By being fit yourself and becoming a living example of the values you want to pass on to others.

Damn so many delusional people will just die, nature is cruel

We're not Arabs.
Think about what it is you know and how you know it.
Now I don't know to what you're referring but here's my guess:
>hey kids, here's some boring ass vegetables. you should eat the fuck out of these. tell your mum to buy some celery. she's totally not just going to keep feeding you mcdonalds because she's pre-diabetic and feels shitty and tired all the time.
>hey kids, today you have to play some team sports which are painful and humiliating for you because you're a fat cunt and this class still managed to have a few chadlets in it.

I've never seen anything attempted that I would call a good idea.

Maybe the USSR was doing something right by keeping everyone skinny

On the other hand, Japan has an obesity rate of 3.6%

You can't.
Democracy and capitalism always cater to the most base needs of man.
Sugary shit, porn, XXXXL clothing, 1000 channels of reality TV shit, invalid scooters?!
THE FREE MARKET DEMANDS IT GOY! WE'RE JUST PROVIDING SOLUTIONS!
Authoritarian rule is needed to keep this "freedom" in line and make sure it actually benefits society.

Climate change refugees are a scam, m8. The places these people come from are going to be the same as they ever were but they'll be told to say:
>yeah climate change is why i'm here, lol, it's your fault whitey!

Just remember natural selection should take care of it.

damn you're actually smart

I mean consider this: it's now "climate change" or "climate chaos" rather than "global warming" because you are being told to accept that it's happening regardless of any evidence. So there's no win condition for fixing this problem, is there? There's no thing you can do and say "All right, things are going to be cool now."
That's why they're conditioning you to believe in the Climate Change Refugee.
Refugees are supposed to be facing death in their home country and they're supposed to go back when they no longer face death.
But attach that bullshit nebulous condition to them and there's never any need to prove they have to come here or any way to prove they can go back.

Stop subsidizing healthcare for unhealthy fatasses and the problem will fix itself.

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That won't work because people from developing nations will be brought in to make up for all the dumb white cunts you killed. And those people will be more pre-disposed to the same problems.

On a macro level, or just in terms of doing so in individuals or small groups?

On a macro level, you'd have to find a way that it would be more profitable for corporations to get people to engage in fitness than it is to sell them cheap, shitty food in large quantities or promote unhealthy habits. Good fucking luck with that one.

The Maldives bro
It's not a hoax, they're already being affected

One dinky little set of islands. They're going to ask you to accept that any refugee from any country is one just like they demanded you accept any refugee came from Syria.
A lot of these countries will be places that subsisted on aid in the first place: no agriculture to fuck up.

People like socialism.
People also like nationalism.
If only there was some system that was nationalist, socialist and refused to let the people be exploited by international finance and giant capitalists.

why do you care? why should I?

>We're not Arabs.
Allow me to elaborate. Arab and Muslim culture does exactly what you describe, and their women are, on average, chubby - probably because they live pretty sedentary lives.

Just because global warming is happening doesn't mean you have to open up 1st world countries to 3rd worlders, who will make the 1st world more like their shithole countries.

I unironically want to go to a Walmart in the Midwest/South to see how many fatties like this i spot. I live in one of the fittest states so it's rare to see someone who needs to use a mobility scooter

This, also arrest parents with obese kids for neglect and child endangerment

> your be hard pressed to find an obese mormon.

Oh look, another faggot who professes claims as if he knows what hes talking about. You've clearly never set foot inside a mormon church. Fucking kill yourself.

let them eat cake

Yeah it pretty much does, though. That is what they want for this meme. Total freedom of movement to the West.

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except also realize that by being Jow Forums in a world of /fat/ you can fuck all the chubby girls you want with ease. I fuck fat girls like they owe me pussy, and 90% of the time they are honored that a guy with abs would dick them privately, let alone hold their hand on campus.
>seriously, if I see a moderately cute chubby girl (cute face or big tits are a must) I make it a mission to get her
>treat her like a princess in front of her friends
>treat her like a gf around campus/town
>be scraping the back of her throat by the end of the week
Do it like you deserve it user. The fats are literally here to serve you. It's what they chose when they decided on another diet coke instead of water

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Based and fatpilled

you've sunk low
just steal what you can of value from them without ever touching the hog I say

>not having standards for who you fuck

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>manlet khhv with high standards erects 20ft scaffold to clamber onto his high horse
>from there to critique a bro who just had a girl he met last week bring him cookies and an energy drink while studying
I hear you brother, preach

Just fuck skinny or athletic chicks, fat chicks are ugly in the face because the bf% fucks up their face anyway

>He's never seen a cute chubby girl
Go outside user, it's not that scary I promise

not op but if youre settling for fatties then you need to reevaluate unless your ugly, short, or fat

>fucking chubby girl raw because she's cute
>settling
I think you missed something

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It's a fatty train!

I bounce at a nightclub, I have yet to see any cute chubbies

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Well all the effective information is out there from private sources (capitalism). Meanwhile the State can't even promote a basic, effective fitness regimen because of bureaucracy. That's why they still do kipping pull ups and they don't even know the difference between a chin up or a pull up. Or their idea of strength training is locking arms and running against waves.

The only thing Communism would do is starve everyone to death. As for Socialists... just look at them. The State paying for the fatty's 3rd heart bypass surgery sure is going to help society. All those people on food stamps sure are fit.

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What's the fittest state? I want to be surrounded by Jow Forumsizens.

This is unbelievably based information. I fucked this fat chick the second time I hung out with her in my car and she lets me slide in anytime. Only issue is the hour drive. I can literally text her whenever I feel like it and she'll be ready to fuck. She ain't even that fat lmfao.

Pay women to maintain relationships with fit men.

Want a government sponsored gf? Get fit.

repeal obamacare so people are paying for their own diseases of affluence

I'll grant you that it's possible that we would not restore the order, even in this hypothetical LARP, and that white women staying home would all be fat cunts.
eg. Tech' has made many of the chores they need to do very simple.
But I will not grant that just because it's the case with another race that it will happen with ours.
I'll give you an example of how things can be different with another race: black people. Black women in the USA are fat as fuck. But their men are much more healthy weight-wise until you get to the wealthier blacks. There it's the opposite of whites. The wealthier black men get fat while wealthier white men would trend towards being healthier.

It's a Sisyphean task because there's so many factors, most of which are directly caused or at least correlated with said democratic/capitalist system.
For most of us:
Our food, our work, our entertainment, our recreation, our relationships, our education and childhood upbringing, all culminate in an individual who like a sponge can't help but ingest some if not most of these bad habits. Our lifestyles have been cultivated for efficiency BUT it's not for an efficient society, rather the efficient growth of money and capital to serve the neoliberal system. In this sense fat fucks aren't viewed as drains of society, rather as another niche for the market to cater to (and you'll notice it does so very well...)

On the bright side being fat wasn't very common until about a generation ago. Which means we could theoretically go back. Yet while it's nice to think that just spewing anti-fat propaganda would do the trick, it would only go so far when what I just mentioned (particularly the additive-laden chum most of us consume from birth and the sedentary lifestyle reinforced by our education system from age 5-18) is so prevalent and has such a drastic effect on not just our physical development, but also our mental and spiritual health as well.

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Hey dumbass, would you live in a country where every women was morbidly obese and you couldn't leave?

>trying to help people who don't want your help
I've given up on that, just makes you miserable and drags you down with them.

With incentives.
Only problem is, others have different agenda (food industry for instance) and their incentives will compete with yours.

dont, let natural selection take place. i call its God's Eugenics

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Unregulated capitalism will always result in this. Companies do whats best for profit. Its in their DNA.

The history of industrial food is insane.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
It all begins in education.
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Was this why Kennedy was assassinated?

>A country is as strong as it's citizens, and I think mental and physical health, mental and physical vigor go hand in hand.
Only if you knew how bad things really are

I live in rural Missouri, and I would say at LEAST 50% of people at the store are in the morbidly obese category. I see at least 5 in a scooter every time I go.

Not joking when I say the average shopping cart is full of mountain dew, cheap beer, Chef boyardee, and little Debbie's. The only upside is there are plenty of fresh veggies to go around.

Recent studies of volcanic lakes in China indicate that we are entering a 500 year cooling cycle. This confirms the claim that many astronomers have been making about the sun being the primary factor in climate change.
The grand solar minimum is upon us. Crop production zones will shift due to increased cloud cover caused by a masive surplus of cosmic rays being emitted by our sun. This will also cause an increase in glaciation.
Look up the little ice age.

absolutely based

You can't. Fat, out of shape people with poor impulse control are easy to exploit. You can also make a mint selling them snake oil to cure their fatness without work and then sell them disease treatment when they get diabetes or heart disease or other complications. Being healthy and fit is much harder to monetize.

>implying people will come here if there are no benefits.
Before we started giving the illegals charity, we only had young male migrant workers showing up to pick fruits and vegetables during the summer. If we get rid of the welfare state, there will be too much competition from actual citizens to even let the illegals work.

Promote nicotine dependency to stave off appetite, lower estrogen, raise testosterone, and boost intelligence.
Granted this should only be for men. As nicotine makes women more masculine and sexually promiscuous while conversely making it more difficult to achieve orgasm. Impairing their ability to bond to a partner.
Vaping, and nicotine mints are great for men though.

>based nuanced summation

STOP SUBSIDISING CORN SUGAR

>dumb whites you killed
>not subsidising someone’s unhealthy lifestyle is murder
based retard

Anywhere on the coast or Colorado is mostly fit people. The idea that big liberal cities are full of fat blue hairs is a huge myth (the fat blue hair Tumblr girls are random embarrassments or live in college towns in flyover states). People in big cities are hot if you stay out of the ghetto. Whereas BASED red states/countryside have all the fatties.

>How do you promote fitness in a democratic/capitalist country?
Shame.
Shame everyone that isn't fit.

Shame is very, very, very powerful. Especially on women, who have a deep fear of being excluded. Shame them.

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This. Just look at Singapore and South Korea
Fatties are literally shamed into doing surgery or neck hangs x F

Yeah, modern industrial farming is some crazy shit. Just the sheer scale of what goes in there is pretty mind-boggling. I eat me a whole lot of chicken, but I am definitely aware of how brutal the system that allows me to eat multiple chickens in a day is. It's one of those things you know is fucked up, but you just can't get yourself to not take part in.

This. I live in Boston, and people are generally pretty normal in terms of body shape. In fact, since I live near the more college-based parts of it, there are a lot of young athletes or people from other countries who don't have the same obesity problems as the US. There are still larger amounts of obese people than there should be, (I was one for a while until I fixed my shit) but you don't see that many planets compared to the national statistic.

Wealth and education are two big factors. If you're more educated, it's more likely that you understand the nuances of proper eating, and how important it really is. If you're wealthier, you can afford higher-quality food.

That blue state trend is also true, since people who are more liberal or even left-wing and more likely to be open to diets that aren't as fatty. Say what you will about vegetarians or even vegans, but they do tend to be better off in terms of body shape than a lot of folks who live in the center of the country. Coastal states also have more access to fish, which is pretty healthy.

What the fuck are you talking about bro

These faggots talk about incentives and forcing women to stay at home and no one mentioned regulating what corporations sell and market. Fat fucks don't have self control and can't be trusted to make good nutrition choices so the government should make them instead

Indeed. Every time I go for errands after work or on my days off, there's nothing but dadbods and soilents. In this day and age, its easy to stand out and be comparable to a teenager, even if you're middle-aged.

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Everything I said was plain and clear. Do you have a real question?

Can't have any kind of consistent values in a capitalist system. Capitalism leads to rapid technological change, which leads to rapid hot-swapping of social values.

Education, something the US lacks

You can do that. But why when you can just have the people blindly consume?