Which is the most optimal workout split bros?
Pros and Cons of which one? Which workout split you use user?
Workout Splits BRAH
I do an Arnold split
P is push or pull, L is legs
P P L x P P L x
or
P P P x P L P x
For beginners full body focusing on heavy compounds and strength progression. For intermediate lifters PPL 6x a week (don’t know what the fuck that legs once a week shit is) with high volume each workout for hypertrophy or a 5/3/1 or some shit if you want to keep going for strength.
>only 1 leg day in ppl
nigga thats how you get chicken legs
nice 8 day week
>Following the 7 day week schedule
I think not
ABCABCX
A: Chest/Back
B: Shoulders/Triceps/Biceps
C: Legs/Abs
Every other split is shit except for brosplit as long as theres enough volume
beginner here and doing 3x a week for 3 months now... and shit i dont see myself going to the gym for more than 3x a week..
could i sustain this 3x a week even after im no longer a beginner?
Why not do ppl then? Or are you intentionally working antagonistic muscles on the same day?
Is my workout routine retarded or fine?
WOA: Legs and Shoulders
WOB:Back and Biceps
WOC:Chest and Triceps
Any feedback will be appreciated
ABxABxx repeat.
A - Squats, Deads, Shrugs, Rows, Curls
B - Bench, OHP, Tricep Extensions, Dumbell Press.
I do a 4 day upper/lower split, 2 of each. It's simple, allows me to recover and I hit everything at least 2x per week.
If your split isn’t the most optimal is there even any point in lifting
As far as Ive seen it nattys most likely lack shoulder and arm size, when doing ppl the body is already fatigued when you start with exercises targetting shoulders/arms and these muscles are also pre exhausted from the other exercies where they act as secondery muscles like bp, dips, chin ups etc. before.
When doing one day chest/back and one for shoulders/arms you will hit shoulders and arms on twice as many days as ppl, also working antagonistic muscles in one workout feels great, especially when supersetting. But doing a full heavy back and chest workout in one sitting can be exhausting, had good results with it tho
I wanted to reply with retard wojak image but then realised it's me who's retarded. nvm, user.
Still, I guess following a 7 day schedule is easier to keep track of your workouts.
You came here from reddit didn't you
weerrr
Why is FB only 3x /week?
You know you can do alternating FB, right?
AxBxAxBxA -> MonxWednesxFrixSun -> xTuesxThursxSatur >MonxWednesxFri...
You'd be training 4x a week twice a month atleast. Full body is the way to go for natties. You get the same protein synthesis for less time in the gym. PPL is only useful if you go 6x/week to the gym. Which is not my cup of tea. Also PPL seems to more effective when you are on juice, because that allows you to get the most of out of your gains.
Lol, thought same.
>Uses 7 day week
Not going to make it
Chest/Shoulders/Arms
Back/Legs
OFF
push
pull
shoulders+arms
legs
no rest days
I wanna see the bodies beside each program posted in here for validity
For a beginner its full body 3x a week because you're hitting all your muscles 3x a week instead of 1 or 2 when they can take a beating and come back like nothing in a couple days.
Yes
thanks for the detailed answer
It's fine, so long as you are doing it 6 days a week.
Shoulders and legs obviously have little muscle synergy, so that choice seems to be a way to make leg day more enjoyable (assuming you don't simply enjoy working our legs). Shoulders will get worked on both your push day and your pull day, so you are kind of working them every day which may be excessive depending on what your actual sets are.
Starting the weekly cycle with the leg day is a good choice in my experience, particularly if you are doing heavy squats and diddlies. The rest day prior is necessary imo.
All in all, I think doing some variant of legs-push-pull twice a week is a fine choice, particularly for hypertrophy gains. If you are looking more for strength gains, then 3-4 days a week upper/lower split is better. I am not an advanced lifter, but this is the advice I've seen many times over and in my own experience it is correct.
Can I do an upper/lower monday to friday? Like:
Monday: U
Tue: L
Wed: rest
Thu: U
Fri: L
Sat and Sund: rest
That's the standard way of doing it. You best be lifting heavy though or you'd be better off doing 5-6 days a week.
A- push- squats, bench, ohp, triceps, shoulders
B- pull- deadlifts, pull ups, rows, biceps, core
ABxABxx
On first 2 days you go heavy, on other 2 you go lighter weights to make weight progression easier. Throw in cardio and some more leg work somewhere if you want!
It doesn't matter. A well put together 3 day program works better than 6 days of shit. There's plenty of well regarded programs by good coaches that're 3, 4, 5 or 6 days a week.
Yeah but 3 day program will take 2 hours to finish and your last lifts will suffer because of exhaustion.
>legs only once a week
Into the trash it goes
Ty !
I'll start today with Legs and Shoulders then
Sun OHP 1RM
Mon Front Squat 1RM
Tue Deadlift 1RM
Wednesday Rest
Thursday OHP 1RM
Fri F Squat 1RM
Sat Deadlift 1RM
I use a pyramid training style to reach the 1RM. Been making constant progress. Just waiting for a plateau. No accessories
Not if you do one created by somebody who knows what they're doing and has programmed it properly.
If you’re natty and not training like this why even bother
Saw this long ago posted, is this good ? Been doin it
Not really as long as you vary intensity.
Check out Heavy Light Medium routines. Minimalist but hits all body parts 3x a week
You better make those squats count as this only have 6 sets for quads. Also, no direct hamstring work, you're gonna get injured. Hip thrust 3x10 is a nice addition though.
Look into say 531 for beginners. Lots of sub maximal volume so you end up doing three days full body but it doesn't take long and doesn't destroy you.
btw, I do squats 3 x 8 and Deadlifts 3 x 6
Post example please.
If your goal is to get big and strong, yes, that's fine.
When you can't progress workout to workout you switch to Texas Method or Madcow and progress linearly on a weekly basis.
Currently running a full body split because I don't have too much time during the week since my PhD is making me stay at the uni from 8:00 to 18:00 and training at night is terrible due to how full the gym is. So I just train from 06:30 to 07:30 Tuesday and Thursday and then do a longer session on Saturday.
The rest of the days I use for cardio and some active resting for those sweet cardio gains. It's specially nice since my campus has a cool place to jog and it's mostly empty at the evening.
I must say that a Full Body split is giving me much better strength gains. Certainly due to the amount of rest and focus on the main compound lifts.
all in your pic are retarded splits but middle one is the best of them
Depends on how frequently you train
>3 day: Full body
>4 day: UL
>5 day: ULPPL (so 1 general upper day, 1 push day and 1 pull day weekly)
>6 day: PPL
>7 day:
>1-2 day: UL split where you do Zumba on your lower body days and knitting on your upper body days because you're ngmi no matter what you do so you may as well do something your boomer wife enjoys too
Does it mean it is most or least retarded?
Cardio on saturday and sunday
Thanks. And when you progress to intermediate - advanced what program do you choose?
Madcow, the real 5/3/1, nSuns, PHUL, PHAT, PPL or something else
At that point it really depends on your goals and needs
Download 531 Forever and there's loads in there, some are full body 3 days I think.
There is no one 'real' 531 though.
im doing phrak's gslp. i am progressing on my lower body lifts and other lifts. some are kind of hard to progress.
is this a good time to switch? been doing it for 2 and a half months. but i still like the program so far. and i dont see myself going to the gym 4x a week. but it sounds nice cause i hate spending 2+hrs on the gym sometimes
exactly what im talking about.
No! You have to use an arbitrary 7 day period! Its the rules!
Push/Pull/Legs no rest days. Unless you are busy or sick, why have a rest day? Your muscles should be recovered after two days.
>Cocksquats
Best splits are PHUL or 4 Day Texas Method
When you can't progress on a workout basis, you should deload once or twice and then try again.
Madcow is my preference for an intermediate routine. In my opinion, it's fun and challenging. Follow the advice, though, and don't add extra shit for the sake of it. The routine will be challenging enough.
I mean anything that isn't the beginner 531 that was linked
Upper/Lower is best, PPL is for dyels
Not intermediate yet so im not gonna try that. If ever i wanna switch, i wanna do a hypertrophy routine cause i dont really care about strength lol
I workout everyday
lmfao reminded me of this
forum.bodybuilding.com
least, unlike you
>misc-reant
Greyskull with added block periodization, like weekly, monthly or bi-monthly?
ABCXABC
A - Chest, Tris, Abs
B - Back(Traps included), Bis
C - Legs, Delts, Abs
isn't this just an altered PPL?
It's a bit better like in OP's pic but it absolutely can work
Do most people do PPL on an 8 day schedule? I just do PPLPPLX and it's been fine for me, but I'm not pushing very heavy weight yet.
I do SL 5x5 and im transitioning to Texas Method soon. I dont do all that split crap and isolating muscles cuz im trying to be strong not just big
But the 4 day split version of Texas Method is actually better than the full body 3 day one though
did you make it yourself?
full body at 2 on and 1 off. You'll get 5 workouts in a week and get huge fast. In order to make this work, avoid smoking, drinking, and eat very clean to help with recovery.
I tried that and was extremely fatigued. I was only doing basically 2-3 heavy compound lifts and a couple assistance exercises but even that was too much apparently
what the actual fuck