I was thinking about being an incel and the worst thing is not even the lack of sex, it's that we have nothing else to do in life. There's no other purpose to life than to play the social game. Normies would also go insane if you took away sex and the social status from them, they'd have nothing to live for anymore.
Is the world just too predictable and boring for everyone to have actual lifestyles?
God imagine sucking her titties and eating that pussy out in public. Also yes life is boring as fuck, creative people are literal gods in human flesh
Cameron Foster
Society praises the average person, not highly individual one.
Tyler Morgan
incel by its strictest definition is just someone who cant have sex for reasons outside of their control, it's not even someone who is socially alienated.
i dont know what you mean by an actual lifestyle
Jonathan Bennett
>i dont know what you mean by an actual lifestyle I believe he meant someone who is creative and original individual, that's just how I see it. Most people are just jockeying for status by playing social games of getting a good job and buying material stuff.
Christopher Martinez
What I'm trying to say that in the face of being a loser people become almost paralyzed by it. Like that "documentary" about incels Vice did. These men could do anything they want except one thing (be at the top of the sexual market) but they choose to stay bitter in their bedrooms.
I'm trying to analyze both myself and people in general.
Carson Harris
I think it's the lack of emotional connection, actually. We want support from others, but can't because everyone doesn't care. Because our very existence doesn't conform to their "Ideal person."
Angel Sanchez
what is the percentage of people for whom sex is not possible for reasons really out of their control? How many people are trully that ugly? Completely unfuckable people no matter how much they gymmaxx and take care of themselves? Most of the times being an incel is a syptom of some underlying mental issues. And we all know what's the main factor of mental issues besides genetics. The guy in that documentary has beautiful eyes and a nice square face. If he lifted he's be at least a 8/10 chadlite (physical appearance -wise, because he'd probably still be an autist on the inside). My point still stands. I believe 99% of incels (I just pulled that number out of my ass btw) are simply mentalcels. Who's the goddess, OP?
Ian King
>My point still stands. I believe 99% of incels (I just pulled that number out of my ass btw) are simply mentalcels. I think you're making an argument that's beside the point.
>Who's the goddess, OP? Don't know. I can't find anything when reverse searching
Connor Ramirez
staying bitter your bedroom is a lifestyle. playing the social game is a lifestyle. no matter what lifestyle you have there will be thousands if not millions of other people that more or less live the same way only some people respond to being a loser like that. from what i've seen people who label themselves as incels (like those in the documentary) adopt an exaggerated version of what they think that "normies" think. there are tons of people who have low social status but do not feel the same way that incels do
Leo Nguyen
sexual obsession is as unhealthy in the slut as it is the incel once upon a time the agrarian normies would pair off around 20, fuck like rabbits for maybe 5 years and then move on with life
the problem is sex obsessed degenerate culture. its plenty possible to live a full life even with a regretful lack of sex the worst thing is the incel is on the approved despised list of clownworld being alone, unwanted, and sad is worthy derision if you are not part of a lib-approved victim group. gangbanger gets stiff sentence after breaking felony probation to commit yet another violent offence >victim of poverty! muh stacked justice system lonely cis-male sadbois say edgy things on the internet >Someone needs to come down on those monsters!
Aren't these things non-issues outside of the internet?
Christopher Hall
>once upon a time blabla >degenerate blabla
Oh fuck off with that sour grape attempts.
Sex is not bad, and you do not refrain in any form voluntarily from it, or you would not even hang around here. You could simply go somewhere on the internet where sex isn't 99% of the main topic yet you are here. Your cope is pretty transparent and frankly stinks
Jaxon Cox
I don't think he meant sex is inherently bad, you're creating a straw man. He said the sex obsessed society we live in is bad where worth is measured by social status and the sex that comes with it.
Jackson Bell
>being alone, unwanted, and sad is worthy derision if you are not part of a lib-approved victim group. >gangbanger gets stiff sentence after breaking felony probation to commit yet another violent offence
You'd actually had a point if-- oh wait, you dont. There is no system that's suppressing you to not lose your virginity and there is no end goal if you cant spread your stupid genes. Keeping people poor and uneducated is actually part of the business for private prisons and a corrupt and biased Justice system.
Christopher Edwards
Perhaps, I am just very sick of those cope-purists who swagger about how we should paint pictures or read heidegger instead of wanting to fuck.
Aiden Turner
>we have nothing else to do in life I feel genuinely bad for people who don't have an interesting hobby.
Jackson Lopez
>distracting yourself with some meaningless task yikes
Jace Martinez
"social game" is just one of all the possible hobbies you can get. and it's not the most creative one.
also, while girls crave for Chads, they eventually need a provider, and will line up to confess to that ugly fat balding moron sporting a stinking 4.5" dick but making 150k/year, having no debts, and owning a large house. He will be able to pick out the cutest virgin one of them (while the others will try to #metoo him -- Kavanaugh intensifies).
>TDLR: the more you invest on yourself, the more some female will eventually try to sell herself for sex and a relationship
Noah Peterson
I'm not talking a "hobby". It's not the same.
Leo Martinez
I have never enjoyed sex and I can't enjoy sex. I can't even cum through vaginal penetration. I'm a 24 year old male with a high sex drive that masturbates and still gets horny everyday. What the fuck is wrong with me?
How about you leave the basement and get a job? That will fix your inceldom quick.
Hunter Clark
You people don't seem to get the point. First of all it's not about me and second it doesn't get to the root of the problem.
Wageslaving should not be what provides people with meaning and neither should getting laid.
Dylan Thompson
Uh, it is the root of the problem. Incels don't have anything better to do than whine on an Indonesian coffee brewing forum all day long. Forcing incels to get a job and do something would fix them up.
Joshua Wood
based and Faust pilled everyone who is saying "having a gf is not even that great. there's much more to life", go fuck yourself.
>Forcing incels to get a job and do something would fix them up. Even if that was true, which it might not be, your idea of "fix" might not even be worthwhile or meaningful. Not trying to be mean for no reason but you sound like a brainlet and can't understand the concept
Hudson Gomez
>dude just get up in the morning >dude just show up everyday >dude just be around people all the time its all so tiring with you people
Dylan Jenkins
Getting a job is a requirement most people already have one. How is that supposed to fix it? At least when your jobless you have more time to go out and meet people
Levi Hughes
you want meaning? Find your own meaning. There must be something you want. Go towards achieving that. Society won't give you meaning. Society wants you a good obedient predictable dog. I wanted to tear you apart but already said most of what I wanted to say. I'll add >dude just take these happy pills and go be a good boy like the rest of us. Don't cause any trouble.
Nicholas Parker
>you want meaning? Find your own meaning. There must be something you want. Go towards achieving that. Society won't give you meaning. Society wants you a good obedient predictable dog. That's almost exactly what I said in the OP, you're just repeating it in a different manner. What we're trying to get to the bottom of his HOW people can do this and WHY virtually noone in the modern world seem to find it - not even normies.
Benjamin Garcia
This thread and everyone in it can be summarized by pic related.
watch Blacksails. you're not special either, you're just trying to be meta
Kayden King
I really don't understand the Incels philosophy that sex is magically important and lack of sex is the reason they are the way they are.
Hudson Jenkins
Normies are like that too though, especially people in their early 20's. They're just not actively aware of it. What is more important in your opinion?
Lincoln Martinez
What are you aware of that "normies" aren't? Do you consider yourself more self-aware and intelligent than others?
Jordan Smith
Exactly what's stated in OP. Are you thick?
Tyler King
Oh, you're OP. Then that's easy, because you're wrong and retarded.
Levi Hernandez
sex is the quintessential symbol of social acceptance, the real underlying problem is that incels are rejected by society, particularly women
Joshua Cruz
I don't think what ok said is true. Jeff Bezos is one of the richest men in the world. His status doesn't mention the number of women he has been with.
Lack of sex doesn't stop you from getting a good career or decent life. Sex is just a tiny faucet of life. You people here pretend it's the only thing that matters.
Kayden Harris
>incels are rejected by society This meme again. You're rejecting society, not the other way around. How do you expect to get a gf when you have never in your life asked a girl out?
Kayden Walker
not true I've asked out multiple girls, just two weeks ago I was stood up on a date. stop rationalizing that society is just by trying to blame the victims.
Elijah Price
>You people here pretend it's the only thing that matters. I actually don't, I only realize it's the main driving force in most young peoples' lives. I'm arguing AGAINST the idea of having sex and social status as a meaning of life. You don't even seem to even follow the conversation.
Kayden Garcia
That happens to Chad too. It sounds like you've done at least something right if you managed to get a date so keep doing it until you find the right girl.
James Williams
that's really your advice? keep trying? I've been trying for fucking years with no results, at a certain point you should realize the 'incel' movement exists for a reason, and it isn't because suddenly 30% of men have become undateable.
Justin Cooper
OP here, what you need is to not do what normies do and find something to live for that isn't girls and sex. That's obviously easier said than done when surrounded by a mass culture that promotes it all the time and this thread is evidence itself that people have no fucking clue what to do instead.
Justin Brown
I've tried to cultivate a personal culture of self improvement, doing a lot of things that I think are worth doing, but thoughts of girls/sex always come back. doesn't help that mass media is obsessed with it as you pointed out, nor is the millions of years of evolution screaming at me to have sex helpful either.
James Myers
What's wrong with trying? You sound like you're just looking for excuses to give up because it's easier. You probably haven't been "trying" too hard either. Maybe girls can sense that you identify as an incel and get creeped out. Stop being an incel and become a volcel/robot instead and you will unironically look better in the eyes of girls.
Aiden Robinson
I've actually thought of this too and have turned my internal talk and self image more positive with no success. like I said, I've been at this for years with no success, you're talking to a man who has tried everything.
Jaxson Hernandez
Whenever someone says he has tried everything he's full of shit. If you had tried everything then you'd have a gf by now easily. You're not some kind of special snowflake who would be the one and only man in history who would actually not be able to get a gf no matter what he does.
Samuel Baker
Nothing, the system is beginning to break down.
I'm in the same boat as you but probably in a worse position job wise.
Josiah Roberts
>le society is collapsing meme Said by every retard for the last 5000 years.
David Jackson
Have you seen the bond yeild curve and income distribution trend? I seriously think a real bad nuclear war will happen in the next 30 years.
Caleb James
the American citizens can't actually afford to pay off the national debt. this is bad because in order to pay that debt off, you need a concerted effort.
problem is a tiny handful of people have most of the money and there's no feasible way to do anything about it. the longer and longer they go without stimulating the economy, the further you push away the possibility for American citizens to ever not be in the hole. everyone being poor is not stimulating the economy.
Wyatt Foster
America has been on a steady path of decline that was started by Reagan. Nothing new here. Meanwhile some other countries are doing far better and have a pretty good future ahead.
Luis Robinson
Welcome to the downfall. Great Depression 2.
Everything feels artificial. The digital tech industry is vastly overvalued and the big boys know it. It feels like the beginning of the end.
No but I am overweight, hideous to look at, and have no social skills whatsoever
Samuel Bell
>letting the jews talk you into thinking that a job that will make you fuckable
Amusing as fuck, why are the least career- capable guys the ones getting laid every weekend then?
Ian Lee
Do you seriously believe that retarded cope bullshit you just wrote?
Carter Cruz
Do you ever leave the house? No club slut wants to see your employment state before sucking you off. You talk yourself into your "I-i just need to improve myself moar, you will see!" dreamwhile sitting alone here shitposting.
Ryan Martin
Just make up a new game bro
Jordan Watson
Are you retarded? Women literally only care about money and status. You are deluded if you think their attraction accounts for anything else.
Henry Anderson
The purpose of life for people like us is to be comfy nigger. Go back to where you came from redditor because you obviously don't belong here if you really want to associate with shit-brained normalfaggots so badly
Josiah Flores
Wageslaving should not be what provides people with meaning and neither should getting laid.
I get meaning to my life by doing things for others. My job allows me to do that. Any job that's paid does. It shows that someone values you and your labor enough to pay you.
Being in a job also got me laid. Get a job you fucking loser.
Thomas Morris
You've convinced yourself that no woman will ever want you and that's why you shut yourself in the basement. Club sluts will be interested in your status, which means having a job and money.
Daniel Green
That is all that YOU will ever have to offer to a girl perhaps. Does not stop that very same girl from fucking someone who is actually interesting and challenging to be around, while later letting someone boring like pay her bills.
All you do is setting yourself up to be the beta provider that she "simply wasn't happy with anymore" in divorce court one day. You are not making yourself 'attractive' by licking your boss boots, you are entering the world of being a permanent doormat for life.
Ethan Ortiz
This is just inane ramblings, it has nothing to do with my point.
Elijah Miller
>That is all that YOU will ever have to offer to a girl perhaps.
>All you do is setting yourself up to be the beta provider that she "simply wasn't happy with anymore" in divorce court one day. You are not making yourself 'attractive' by licking your boss boots, you are entering the world of being a permanent doormat for life.
Jokes on you, I am a poorfag manchild who lives with his parents.
Dylan Hill
Not everyone can find meaning in wageslaving for a corporation, user.
Samuel Moore
Try agai,n armchair therapist. I am not the virgin who thinks he can get by affection from a girl by his workhours while she is on her phone texting exciting badboys with no job and prospects.
Eli King
>I am not the virgin who thinks he can get by affection from a girl by his workhours You are the virgin who thinks he can get affection from girls by bragging about his animu figurines collection.
Evan Davis
>while she is on her phone texting exciting badboys with no job and prospects.
You are delusional. Women literally only care about money and social status. I say this as a friendless NEET so don't try and go 'hurr durr you're just trying to get laid by having a job but it won't work!!'
>Women literally only care about money and status From you, sure. You have no looks, you have no charisma, you have zero empathy or insight into her thoughts. And chances are you do not even have much of a body or skill in bed to offer. What the fuck is she going to want of you, but your spare change and and your doggish hopes that someone else won't be able to give her anything more than jewstamps either.
David Myers
Life is just hedonism nothing more. Happiness is distracting yourself until you die. Its why I work two jobs despite having a paid off house/car/motorcycle. Also do literally every drug in the universe because of this.
Bentley Roberts
It's unclear what the biological "NEED" for sex truly is, some people seem needy even for multiple girls at once, for man-anus etc. but the thing about being an incel is more that when you are constantly being clumsily, not so subtly evaluated and judged and rewarded with sex, it's pretty much impossible and unreasonable to enjoy any other aspect of a social-life.
Easton Jackson
Money and status alone just makes you a target for a jizzrag looking to live a parasitical existence at your expense. Being a handsome psychopathic piece of shit like Chris Brown or the countless number of serial killers is what really makes holes wet in your presence.