Why do men expect sex in long-term relationships? You're not entitled, it's our bodies and our right to stop having sex if that's what we want.
I've heard horror stories from girl friends. Their boyfriends: starting to look at other women, make new female friends, stop initiating (making my friend feel undesired), being more grouchy, acting like a roommate instead of a boyfriend (inviting friends over) - all merely because they wanted to stop. One's fiance even terminated their engagement over it! This sexism is so rampant that even one of our acquaintances (female) said she thinks the boyfriends were in the right and that she herself relates to them (dunno what the fuck is wrong with her in that case but maybe that's why she defends discrimination against her own sex).
Why is it so commonplace for men to expect this from another person's body? It's not theirs.
This has to be the worst place on the internet to discuss sexism
Samuel Reed
This seems like an issue that should be discussed as the relationship becomes serious. It would save headaches for everyone
Ethan Hall
YASS YASS YASS. Men are such pigs. They marry us just for bodies and expect us to be slaves and put out for them 24/7. They think they have ownership of us. But no you do not own us. Sex is a gift from us. You are not entitled to sex. We will have sex when we want and how I want. No oral, anal, or weird positions you pornsick jerk!
Just because the majority support it doesn't mean there aren't dissenting voices.
Why are you and OP strawmanning men so badly?
Jordan James
I mean, this is obviously bait but I'll bite
If it's your body and we aren't entitled to it, then you're not entitled to monogamy and we will dick down each and every one of your friends
Jack Sanders
>she wanted to stop having sex >he stopped trying to initiate sex >he is bad
wut
Julian Brooks
It's perfectly fine if you don't want to have sex, it's your choice. I'll choose to stop being in a relationship with you though.
Joshua Flores
This esxact thread was done yesterday. I thought you needed to be original to post :^)
Cameron Ortiz
>stop initiating (making my friend feel undesired This is the peak of hypocrisy and lack of empathy. The men you describe will be feeling exactly that but you don't care.
James Long
We are not strawmanning. We are fighting for our rights. Male sexuality is sick, degrading, and violent. And men promote all of these in porn, music , and movies. No female should have to stand for this and suffer in sex. Gender critical Radical feminist stand for a sexuality that is not abusive and values us as equals. Sorry is you brainwashed pornsick mind is unable to understand equality!
Chase Richardson
This thread is why 2d is better
also serious bait
Xavier Kelly
Actually those arent just regular men. Its jewish people.
Benjamin Ross
>And men promote all of these in porn, music , and movies
That's jews
Henry Sullivan
My bait senses are flashing but let me tell you guys that this is definitely a mainstream kind of thinking among a lot of women. I'm actually surprised this is barely brought up on here, your misogyny makes you focus only in conspiracies instead it seems. But this kind of thinking is a real example of toxic femininity.
Charles Stewart
because we are not going to pay for your ass put up with all your bullshit do your stupid ass pointless busy work chores and get nothing out of it. The vast majority of women have almost nothing to offer to a man other than their bodies. You expect us to work our asses off for you and not even get sex twice a fucking month? You bitches are the ones that are entitled and men are waking the fuck up like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Be glad you can even find men interested in any sort of long term relationship with you because I can assure you that will mostly be coming to an end.
You cunts are the architects of your own destruction now fucking deal with it. >You are not entitled to our protection >we are not your providers >we are not your entertainers >we are not your personal life fixers You expect all that shit yet can't even put out in a long term relationship and think we are the entitled ones? The problem is you, its always been you and it will always be you. The people in the past saw that women were fundamentally flawed in this way and structured society to keep civilization afloat. You cunts blew it all up and now you are getting mad that instead of getting a utopia you got a dystopia. The more freedom women get to act like entitled children the more miserable they get. The more feminism spreads the more society crumbles. The same pattern repeating in every nation that dares to try it over and over.
Remember this once things gets bad enough laws will have no meaning because they are ultimately enforced by men. Men died for freedom and women whined for freedom. That is all you need to know to figure out how that conflict is going to end up.
Tyler Scott
Not All Men, hon.
Nathaniel Wood
so. you men still consume that garbage. and i dont see men fighting with us feminists to stop this
Justin Kelly
Say good bye to half your stuff and possibly your retirement pensions too. You can't leave.
> those points as a defense > feminism You lost all credibility in this post. Men and women are not equal, and it's always been this way, we have our own strength and weakness, which is why we complement the other. As for the degeneracy in bed, women are also strong contenders but you forget pointing that out since that wouldn't fit your narrative. Now stop larping and go on another board.
women do not need men. all men is abuse us verbally, emotionally, physically, and sexually. men are everything that is wrong with the world. and it is a world men have created specifically for them and for them to keep their power. so you are right men and women aren't equal. women are better than men. we are smarter, more civilized, sexier, and over kinder people. so stop trying to keep us down
Jason Torres
>tfw gf has slender feminine fingers, but i still have to see those disgusting sausage fingered fat hands of the modern woman
it's literally just a thinly-veiled misogyny thread
Nolan Gutierrez
This is why as a man the first thing that needs to happen is to shove as much equality down your throat as possible. A good place to start is the draft. All women now have to sign up for selective service and if in event we need to use the draft they will be drafted in equal numbers as men to fight and die. No preference in positions either so don't think all the women are going to get to sit around in the base and drive cargo trucks around. Nope its into the trenches with rifle in hand to die in a flurry of machine gun and mortar fire.
I also noticed women seem to get preferential treatment getting into college and with public assistance so naturally we can reduce those benefits to even things up.
got a flat tire? You are my equal so fucking google how fix it.
The world of men is tough and harsh women can only bare it when they get most the benefits while still getting preferential treatment. True equality would fucking kill you.
Jason Sanchez
just don't be a fat disgusting male handed fuck, then your opinions will matter. it's not that hard
> women are better than men > more intelligent Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahha There is absolutely no fucking way in hell you're being serious right now when all the feats in history, science, medicine were done by men. When 99% successful businesses are run by men. Low effort bait. But if genuinely believe all of this, well, nothing else we can do for you.
Suck his dick and cook for him That's literally all you have to do
James Morris
>chick with manhands wants to give a hj >not gay
Juan Fisher
Because men work. Work to provide for your lazy, entitled, useless, narcissistic, ever fattening ass at the promise of some sex once in a while.
>hurr durr why do women expect me to provide for them?
That's the contract you dumb bitch. So spread your legs, or fuck off and die alone with your cats. If you choose the first, we'll take care of you when your old and even more useless. You're welcome.
Christian Robinson
>This is why as a man the first thing that needs to happen is to shove as much equality down your throat as possible you can shove down what doesn't exist. women are still kept down by bastard men >All women now have to sign up for selective service and if in event we need to use the draft they will be drafted in equal numbers as men to fight and die. why should women fight in wars that men start with other men. handle your own mess. women have never started a war. >preferential treatment getting into college and with public assistance so naturally we can reduce those benefits to even things up men still oppress women and have since the dawn of time so these will not be going away for a long time >True equality would fucking kill you. men would not survive through true equality. think how much those broflakes cry testerically, imagine of triggered they would be if women achieved our full goals
Henry Ortiz
>females have such disgusting hands that they have to put plastic or paint on them
look at this disgusting objectfying female hands. and where did he get this from? he watched some sick fetish porn and is now turned on by hands. so pathetic. OUR BODIES DONT EXIST FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT!!!
why would you get into/remain in a relationship where you aren't having sex? its a fundamental part of human relationships unless both parties agree that they don't want it
Carson Rodriguez
Delusion at maximum levels. Women receive positive discrimination daily because "oh they're so weak, oh poor thing". Your full potential is what? The last big talk they made about a woman becoming a billionaire through business only showed that she was boosted there by hmmm well... Males. To fit a narrative. You can't even have the help of other women for your own agenda. Equity is the bad concept we have right now, because the law, the state, everything makes it so women get easy perks to even compete with men. Equality? He's right, women wouldn't survive it.
Colton Russell
This is obvious bait but Ill answer just in case your dumbass is serious. An average relationship has the best of all worlds usually. If you dont want sex, then why choose a man that likes to dick down? Its entirely your fault if you lure a man into a relationship that is unfit for the average male. Men like to commit the meatslappening, whats wrong with that? If youre one of those weirdos that dont like the sex, then dont get a boyfriend that enjoys it. Obviously a man wont stay loyal if you dont commit, same the other way around. Stop nitpicking, stop blaming men for everything and stop being retarded. And with my final word, go fuck yourself and all those white knighty SJW monstros.
>Sex is a gift from us. You are not entitled to sex. We will have sex when we want and how I want. No oral, anal, or weird positions you pornsick jerk! Then >Money is a gift from us. You are not entitled to my money. We will give you money when we want and how we want. No new clothes, make up or weird jewelry you gold digger.
On the off chance you're serious let me explain the counter psychology, because you're currently pretending sex is your right to give and take as a woman. Firstly, if you're denying your man sex on a frequent basis without a good reason he's going to start to think this isn't working any more. This is probably going to bleed over into the rest of your relationship since you can no longer use sex to build intimacy. Half of these "horror story" symptoms are really quite mundane or simple. >starting to look at other women and making new female friends This is really telling us that your girl friends are insecure with their decision. Most people will end up meeting people of the opposite gender and making friends with them and that doesn't need to mean anything, you're playing a mind game against yourself here. >stop initiating Probably a big red flag that you need to fix your relationship. Your man is no longer secure initiating because the last few times he did it he's been rejected by his own partner. If you had actually talked about not having sex this time instead of just denying him sex because you have the right to this would have went a lot better. >being more grouchy, inviting friends over Being more grouchy could be down to the lack of sex in the first place. He's going to have more test flowing and not have received the dopamine/oxytocin hit of orgasm recently. Otherwise these symptoms are probably due to a slow breakdown of intimacy in your relationship.
Does this make some more sense now?
Caleb Peterson
Newsflash sweetie: if being his fuckdoll to be used and abused any and every time he wants it isn't your current greatest aspiration in life, you're not in a real relationship and you should stop wasting everyone's time trying to fool yourself that this is going anywhere and break up with him
Alexander Watson
I SAID FUCK OFF OR ILL AMPUTEE UR MUTANT HANDS OFF WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE GENETICS JESUS AND YOU'RE A WOMAN??????? I BET U USE ONLY UR PINKY AND RING FINGER FOR MANDINGOS
Jack Jenkins
Because people can state what they want to state without fear of being banned?
>Articulates every point and defends it well >"Lmao soilord" Keep projecting fgt
Camden Scott
>calling me soi whilst unironically implying there are women in this thread Kill yourself virgin
Isaiah Morris
you're stupid, gay and also retarded and so is your abhorrent opinion
Ethan Rivera
I'm only replying to you because everyone elses' posts have blatant misogyny.
>you're currently pretending sex is your right to give and take as a woman. It's not pretending. It is my legal right as a woman whether I give or take sex.
> Firstly, if you're denying your man sex on a frequent basis without a good reason he's going to start to think this isn't working any more. >This is probably going to bleed over into the rest of your relationship since you can no longer use sex to build intimacy. There is a good reason though, that I do not want to and that is my right to enforce. So this doesn't apply.
>This is really telling us that your girl friends are insecure with their decision. Most people will end up meeting people of the opposite gender and making friends with them and that doesn't need to mean anything, you're playing a mind game against yourself here. Why are you blaming my friends for their boyfriends choosing to spend more time with other women?
>Probably a big red flag that you need to fix your relationship. Your man is no longer secure initiating because the last few times he did it he's been rejected by his own partner. If you had actually talked about not having sex this time instead of just denying him sex because you have the right to this would have went a lot better. But we do talk about why we don't have sex - we don't want to, and we communicate that.
>Being more grouchy could be down to the lack of sex in the first place. He's going to have more test flowing and not have received the dopamine/oxytocin hit of orgasm recently. Otherwise these symptoms are probably due to a slow breakdown of intimacy in your relationship. From the little I've read on it, "test" doesn't just accumulate like that directly in line with sexual cycle.
>Does this make some more sense now? Kind of. Seems like even the most reasonable of you still don't consider our decisions to be a "good reason" for you not to have entitled access to our bodies.
Parker Rivera
Jesus Christ youre hopeless. Just dont fucking breed. We dont need more of you
Jacob Robinson
i gave you a compliment, you fucking onions slurping reddit numale
Ryan Murphy
Stfu cunt you would put out for chad
....why did I have to be ugly
Zachary Nelson
>It's not pretending It is my legal right as a woman whether I give or take sex. Yeah, it's your legal right. But you entered a relationship with a man with the pretense of sex and stripped it away later. This is the key part really, if you started the relationship and were both happy with you having very little sex this might work out the way you want. Most men are happy for you to have the right to deny sex, but they want a partner that's going to have sex with them. It's especially difficult if you were having sex because they now think something is wrong with the relationship when you're actually doing a pride stunt. >right to enforce Again, if you started a relationship with the pretext that you're both going to have little sex this is probably fine. Expect it to be harder to find the right man though because most men want sex. >why am I blaming your friends for their boyfriends choosing to spend more time with other women? Spending time with women isn't a commodity and many people value friendships with the opposite gender. The part here that sticks out for me is the word more, as it's telling that you don't trust the man in the relationship. If you can't build that mutual trust your relationship is always doomed to fail. >but we do talk about why we don't have sex - we don't want to This is not really a reason so much as exercising your right at the cost of your relationship. I don't really care much about my flawed understanding of sexual neurotransmitters so just know that it's strong stuff that's going to affect his mood.
>Seems like even the most reasonable of you still don't consider our decisions to be a "good reason" for you not to have entitled access to our bodies. I don't really understand this. It's a really strange world view. Firstly you consider the decision itself to be a good reason instead of the logic behind it, which is what I really wanted you to explain. What do you even want out of a relationship in the first place?
Wyatt Flores
b8 thread but it's entirely your option to say you don't wanna have sex. No ones gonna force you.
It's our bodies, and it's our choice to be in a boring sexless relationship, femwhore.
Lincoln Clark
WHY CAN'T I ATTRACT CHAD AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH? NO IT'S THE MEN'S FAULT
Will you do it with me, roastie? You'd help me get off my anger so well. Just imagine how much fun we could have together. I'll even ignore your manly hands and your roast flabs, since it's just to calm down anyway.
Asher Reed
Sure but give me a reach around whilst you fuck my ass will you?
Matthew Collins
it's a larp thread, newfag
Noah James
Sure thing. Shoot me your discord
Isaac Gray
Were you just having sex to get a boyfriend? Does that seem right to you? Why do you lie to yourself?
Samuel Carter
Having sex is not degrading. It is natural. Women have been taking anxiety medication that lower libido. Stop being a liar.
Jayden Taylor
Because what the fuck else could you give us? >Companionship I have bros >Fun and entertainment I have bros
The only thing you can bring us is physical affection. Realize your place, and the point of this god damn relationship.
Then when he goes and does something else with his time like have out with his friends or plays video games remember that you said you didn't like his sexual advances on you. There is no better way to ruin a new relationship than to say I don't want to have sex with you. That's basically saying I don't love you too a man.
Leo Myers
This seems like a incel false flag to push men on the fence off the deep end
Jayden Brown
Well it's working on me.
Oliver Rivera
Imagine being incel or a virgin for years finally to breakthrough and find a gf, only to be withheld regular sex during your relationship. Going months without sexual contact, being an incel in a relationship. Life as an unattractive non-chad male is a fucking joke, an utter fucking joke.
>Imagine being incel or a virgin for years finally to breakthrough and find a gf, only to be withheld regular sex during your relationship. I never thought of myself as an incel, as much as I was lonely, since I just never happened to find anyone and that's all it was. But now I'm in the kind of relationship you and OP describe, I naturally feel like characterising myself that way, and worse. I feel I must have been naive or something, must have missed something irredeemable about myself, for me to now be in a sexless relationship. The part I don't get is why she wants the relationship with me at all if I'm clearly so undesirable.
Owen Sanders
>falling for bait this hard This entire thread is autism.
Gavin Bell
>husband/bf in military >she cheats on him while he's at work >he does dangerous job of EOD >gets distracted due to her cheating on him >he gets blown up accidently >she gets $400,000 now that he's dead.
