Why dont robots take kratom if depressed or anxious?

>I remember ordering this stuff thinking its trash b

And it is. Stopped reading right there

/thread

there's already a /drugfeel/ thread you moron

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Huh, so for my remaining powder its best to just put it on my tounge and flush it down rather than making a water mixture!?

Ive gotten some a long time ago and it works really well I just cant get over the god awful taste of the powder and the 'toss n wash' method is always like a damn cinnamon challenge to me. How well do the pills work? I've got some powder called Mitragyna Speciosa Kratom OG Bali Powder, good strain?

Scoop a small amount onto tongue and just throw a drink down there and drown it down yeah

Like taking a shot that tastes a lot less disgusting

Or just mix with a drink. People say orange juice and chocolate milk works good. I tried with orange juice and it tasted good it just never did shit to me when i drank it

kratom will definitely give you the classic "dope sickness" with long term use so it really isn't that good for depression. it can be helpful for addicts of alcohol/other drugs to quit though.

protip for powder: put it in the middle of a square of tissue, fold the corners and twist them together, snip off the tail and swallow it that way with plenty of water. no taste and no buying weird capsules.

No thanks, you can enjoy your gateway to harder opioids by yourself, retard

Capsules work the best for me. I have tried mixing with drinks, tea, all that shit nothing works. Toss and wash and pills work good.

Toss and wash isnt that bad with a good tasting drink like soda. Pills work the best tho i just sit around with a pile of pills next to me and then just casually pop them every time i feel like it while playing a video game. Always feel effects after 4 or 5 now i am going through 50 really fast tho lol

Kratom has worked for my depression for months and nothing else does

Also cheap and doesnt show up in drug tests

Is kratom a hard drug? It seems so innocent, but people say it's an opioid. I normally avoid hard stuff, even alcohol, should i give kratom a pass?

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Thanks think I might try that tissue thing, thats called parachuting or some shit right?

It kinda is but not really no. Its mild but it does have the same kick as an opiate

The thing with opiates though is you need 2 pills to get fucked up and with kratom you need a shit load of powder I would put it closer to weed. It does feel like a strong opiate though

it's addicting and will give you painful withdrawls after a while. it is a little less unhealthy than alcohol though.

Yeah give it a shot i never heard of it working with a large amount of powder though i have tried it with small amounts but never 2 or 3 grams of anything lol

Toss and wash isnt that bad I swore against it as soon as i started as i am more familiar with opiates. I kept saying fuck no i am used to taking 3 or 4 pills never dumping a shit load of powder on my tongue of that nasty tasting shit

I tried it one day didnt even taste like anything and was kinda fun in a weird way. I cant even take a shot of alcohol either. If a single shot of liquor touches my tongue i instantly spit it up my body rejects it and i start getting sick and dry heaving but i can take kratom powder down its really really mild

better alternative to xanax and SSRI's and shit that make you think funny, this stuff just kinda makes you feel warm and toasty.

>warm and toasty

Thats exactly right. I take it and just get comfy playing video games or i enjoy working out on a lower dose

ya maybe i just put the powder too far back on my tongue, because i always end up choking and coughing shit is too dry and sandy or something, lol i'll have to try that again.

Yeah I put it near the middle or front of my tongue

As soon as I tried the back of my tongue it instantly tasted bad and I choked a little bit but I just put a dab of it on the middle of my tongue and get my drink down before I notice a taste

Its more of just a weird sand texture in my mouth mixed with Dr Pepper lol

I can only put a small amount on my tongue though I cant do like a 5 gram drop

>NEW YORK (AP) - U.S. health officials say overdose deaths involving the herbal supplement kratom are more common than previously reported.
>A government report released Thursday said kratom was a cause in 91 overdose deaths in 27 states. Officials previously said they knew of 44 nationally.
>Most who died had also taken heroin, fentanyl or other drugs. But kratom was the only substance detected in seven of the deaths.
>The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported the numbers after combing through death certificates and toxicology reports from an 18-month period.
>Kratom comes from a plant native to Southeast Asia. It is sold in capsules and powders with claims that it helps ease pain, anxiety and drug dependence.
>Officials say it causes euphoric effects like the opioid drugs behind the current nationwide overdose epidemic.

Legitimately a gateway drug. Look at how many people ITT admit their tolerance is shooting way up. Next step is heroin when the powder gets too expensive

fair warning for those unfamiliar with opioids that daily use will cause the "warm and toasty" feeling to be lost with tolerance, and early/mild symptoms of withdrawal include being angry all the time for no reason and getting annoyed at the slightest things which I'm sure is the opposite of what you want. Please moderate your usage if you consider taking kratom.

Lol its 70 dollars for 1000 grams retard those guys even said vaping was bad when it made people quit cigarettes

Any overdose on kratom has been from mixing it with heroin or fent so its not even kratom

I have been on it a year. Not a heroin addict yet. People on reddit do it for years and same thing

Also thats me talking about my tolerance. I went from 3 pills to taking 10-20 so what

I still effects off 4 pills still I just do more

>Most who died had also taken heroin, fentanyl or other drugs

managed to contradict yourself with your own post, good job retard.

kratom is less deadly than coffee.

I am op. Have been on it daily for a year almost. Dont really notice it going away and dont feel withdrawals except rls

Feel warm and toast in bed every night. Literally like a comfy Pepe

Still better than benzodiazepines where the withdrawal makes your skin crawl

>people who take fentanyl and heroin are seeking kratom for the same kind of high, but it's not the same, I'm not an addict!
>it's not deadly, even though 7 people died taking kratom and nothing else
>I-i-i can quit any time I want

Ultimately you shouldn't take substances to self medicate issues like anxiety and depression, those things are there for a purpose. Listen to what you're trying to tell yourself. Ignoring them through substance abuse wont help ANYTHING and is just gonna make everything worse. Imagine when you run out of kratom or it suddenly becomes illegal or hard to obtain.

I literally have an access to painkillers. I dont take them. They dont do much for me i just get face itch and grumpy off them.i take kratom and feel fine i get that warm cozy every night

I dont get why you are coming in here and telling people they are going to get addicted to heroin and die. Its a plant. I stick to mostly natural stuff

Ill admit i get hellish restless leg on kratom if i quit but that beats the living fuck out of all the anxiety and depression i deal with. Also kratom has been shown to reduce psychosis ptsd and other mental illness

Kratom is really mild and i have been on kratom forums for awhile now. I have not read one story where people say FUCK GUYS I TOOK THIS GOD DAMN KRATOM BRO i fucking started shooting up heroin my life is out of control

Not one time. I even have days where i just mostly drink coffee and dont even notice i didnt take kratom until i feel a little restless at night. But i do use a lot of kratom withdrawal is normal for anything

If i drink coffee 5 times a day then quit i will have withdrawals. If i eat fat ass greasy pizza and sugary sweets every day then quit i will have withdrawals.

>7 people died

More people than that will die this year from slipping on actual banana peels.

I took Maeng Da Kratom and it didnt do SHIT. Shit is a fucking meme

Do you know a legitimate brand? Because for me the shit did fuck all except dehydrate me and plug my bumhole

Why are you coming in this thread to bitch about it? Lol

I dont think its going to magically just happen like that its a plant thats been legal for decades. You are just being negative as fuck. Even if i had to quit i would just have rls for a week

I am going to treat my depression with it

I bought it from a smoke shop and all it did was make me dehydrated and constipated. Fuckin waste

Thats literally what everyone says. The kratom in smoke shops is garbage. They give it a bad name just to make a sale trying to sell the cheapest shit they can find and mark it up 20x as much

You have to get kratom from an actual kratom vendor they know what products to get and aim for quality and rely on reviews. Every single post on reddit says that smoke shop kratom is garbage. Its a well known fact

My effects are different from everyone elses i actually shit more on kratom so it might just be me

Go to mystic island kratom or Cali botanicals to get it. I buy it off both these sites i have tried it myself and can confirm it works i even read reviews on reddit before i bought it all good always get red Bali

>Its a plant. I stick to mostly natural stuff
Cyanide is naturally occurring. So is asbestos. Not a great argument

Kratom has known health benefits. Thats like comparing eating vegetables to poison ivy

lol settle down junkie, im not the same guy who said its gonna kill you.
Just concerned that you're self medicating, which is never a good thing, been down that road multiple times with multiple substance never once ended well. Counseling based therapy is usually the best way to combat depression and anxiety.

I will take this over ssri any days for depression. I always hear bad stuff about them and rarely bad things about kratom except it doesnt work for some people. My anxiety is so bad i cant even talk to a therapist if I wanted to and most the stuff in my life is such shit i cant cure it

how many grams in each capsule? im trying to figure out whether to buy the powder or capsules

Rule of thumb is around .5 grams per capsule but sometimes its .75 but the capsules are fucking huge. Most of them are half a gram

Powder is cheap than capsules i believe i just buy bulk powder and got a capsule machine and make my own pills. It makes 50 at a time for probably like 1-2 dollars worth of kratom lol

can i buy it in europe legally?

Yeah I am pretty sure

I agree man SSRI are bullshit, I had a blackout episode off a combination of setraline and gabapentin prescribed by my psychiatrist. Ended up waking in a prison cell with an aggrivated DUI charge. I sobered up and realized that the past 3 weeks were kinda fuzzy, my parents telling me how strange i've been. Everyone should strive to live substance free, deal with whats making you anxious directly, avoidance in anxiety is very common and very toxic to you. Get out and talk to a counselor, hell i think you can even do it online nowadays.

any good places for newfags? probably would be best to buy it in a pack or something?

Cali botanicals definitely never had a bad batch from them and always been one of the best

oh, i was asking about europe but still thanks

I mite be try it once I'm done with passion flower extract. One of many shilled remedies.

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