I believe I've found the cure to baldness, and I'd like to lay it out in detail.
First, I'm not bald and at age 28, I still have a full head of hair. However, the concept of balding has been something that's always interested me. My individual hair strands have thinned since my teenage years and my temples show minor recession/thinning. My mom had and continues to have monstrously thick hair while my father never suffered the effects of classic male pattern baldness even now at the age of 66, but his hair did thin quite a bit since his youth. My maternal grandfather and great grandfather both went bald at an early age starting in their 20s until they were straight up chrome domes with minor hair remaining on the sides of their heads. As my father was adopted, I cannot dissect his side of the family. I do think genes play a part in balding, but how it plays out for each individual is misunderstood.
So what causes balding? Everyone who's done even minor research knows DHT is the sinister force that scientists have blamed for a long time now. The basic theory is that DHT production is responsible for body hair growth at the start of puberty and it has the opposite effect of weakening scalp hair follicles that in turn cause hair strands to thin until the follicle ceases to grow new hair. Your genetics determine the level of DHT produced by the body and the sensitivity of hair follicles in your scalp. So men with high DHT production and weak scalp follicles are generally fucked. Simple.
But what if there's more to it? What if balding is instead symptomatic of a circulatory problem?
Everyone here could agree that cutting off circulation to any part of your body will kill that part eventually. But other circulatory issues cause their own unique problems. Overabundance of sebum production often leads to acne. Internal buildup of arterial plaque hampers blood flow and overworks the heart. The inability to maintain flow has consequences.
The body is a series of tubes transporting nutrients and carrying away waste. A hiccup in any one of these systems can create huge problems sometimes in a very short span. In the case of hairloss, I believe it's twofold: insufficient blood flow to the scalp and insufficient removal of waste from the area. I liken bald heads to a desert covered in dried up irradiated sewage.
Enter Dr. Emin Tuncay Ustuner who introduced the gravity theory: (insights.ovid.com/crossref?an=01720096-201310000-00009) (Wolters Kluwer Health: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins. "'Gravity theory' may explain male pattern baldness." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 30 October 2013. .)
>The "force of downward pull caused by the gravity on the scalp skin" is the key contributor to the events leading to progressive hair loss in male pattern baldness >The new theory's unparalleled ability to explain even the details of the hair loss process and the formation of the pattern in AGA is apparent." >In youth, the scalp has sufficient fat tissue under the skin, and it is "capable of keeping itself well-hydrated," buffering the pressure on hair follicles. But with aging, the skin and underlying (subcutaneous) fat become thinner, and the pressure on the hair follicles increases. Testosterone contributes to thinning of the subcutaneous fat. In women, estrogen prevents thinning of these cushioning tissues, at least until menopause. >Aging and Testosterone-Related Changes Create 'Vicious Circle' Leading to Hair Loss As the cushion decreases, the hair follicle must strive against higher pressure, requiring more testosterone to achieve normal growth. This "local demand" leads to a buildup of DHT levels in the scalp, but not in the bloodstream. Rising DHT levels cause further erosion of the subcutaneous fat -- creating a "vicious circle"
He theorized that baldness was an issue manifested by trapped sebum (again a circulatory problem) and so he devised a massaging routine for participants in the study to be enforced daily. (zeel.com/blog/massage/if-you-want-to-regrow-thicken-hair-you-need-scalp-massage/) >Dr. Choy’s study shifts scalp thickness and softness into the spotlight as a primary factor in hair loss. To test this idea, he created a targeted massage technique called “detumescence therapy,” and required all of his study participants to follow the protocol religiously for 300 days. >Following treatment of “detumescence therapy," all of the study’s 100 participants were able to achieve hair regrowth. As Dr. Choy notes, “the results demonstrated that all people could have their hair regrown naturally and healthily,” when they stick to the protocol for the full 300 days. >During the hair’s growth phase, increased blood flow to the hair follicle is helpful to maintain proper nutrition for it’s rapidly reproducing cells. This means that a lack of proper circulation to the scalp may impact healthy hair growth. >The effect of scalp massage on hair can be seen on a cellular level as well. The stretching forces exerted on the hair follicles during scalp massage actually change the gene expression of the hair cells, according to a Japanese study of 9 men massaging half of their heads for a 24-day period. Over the course of the study, researchers found that scalp massage increased hair thickness on the massaged side of the head in the balding men who participated.
Thomas Moore
Finally, this brings me to a man named J.D. Moyer who's been blogging about his own experiment based off the study conducted by Dr. Choy. Between June 2014 to April 2015 he committed himself to massaging his own scalp every day. Pic related. I believe the cure to baldness is simply a circulatory issue that can be resolved by men committed to a daily routine of increasing blood flow to their scalp.
>ctrl+f "coconut oil" >0 results Not even going to read this shit, I already know you don't know shit
James Parker
No way. Millions of men and scientists have put effort into stopping hairloss. If the answer were this simple then it would be known and everyone would do it.
Logan Bailey
TL;DR but the bald look is unironically bad ass, albeit will permanently be in 2nd place to hair
It's really down to aesthetic preference. It would likely provide a small benefit, but not enough to achieve the same results as following a rigorous scalp massage routine every day.
Lincoln Brown
>Good evening gentlemen
Lost me there
Zachary Adams
That's not good reasoning. Not saying I believe this, but that logic is faulty and a major bummer
There are simple solutions to some very universal problems that just haven't been thought of. The world is a wondrous place my man, open your eyes
Anthony Watson
I'm happy to give the old noggin a rub every day but for how long and how hard?
Angel Nguyen
Obviously I'm being facetious. >No way. Millions of men and scientists have put effort into stopping hairloss. If the answer were this simple then it would be known and everyone would do it. The answer to weight loss is absurdly easy. Guess what bucko, it's a multi-billion dollar industry with retards looking for an "easy" way out everywhere you turn. And really, how many men have attempted to rigorously massage their scalp for upwards of a year to test the idea? You could probably count them on your fingers before the study by Dr. Choy was conducted. Another product to buy... yes of course.
let us put a stop to male pattern baldes and raise our natural test levels go out into the fields and decapitate brown people and rape the women viva la white pride
Ryder Carter
Righto, thanks mate I'll report back in a year's time
Gavin Scott
This is literally how minoxodyl treats hairloss dipshit
Owen Diaz
>minoxodyl >Minoxidil must be used indefinitely for continued support of existing hair follicles and the maintenance of any experienced hair regrowth Sounds like a great deal dipshit
Henry Morgan
This. The cure for baldness isn’t a simple massage or household oil. Millions would have tried this shit throughout the history of mankind.
Jackson Green
I agree
Nolan Jones
It's more important to find a solution that you can sell as a subscription over a solution you can give out for free.
Caleb Williams
Just because an idea is simple doesn’t make it wrong. And rigorous scalp massages everyday isn’t exactly intuative
Owen Turner
>Another product to buy... yes of course. You can use coconut oil for cooking, bulking and cleaning you moron, drinking it inhibits DHT and other things, it doesn't make sense to say "another thing to buy" since you should be using it already in the kitchen Just for you thinking that coconut oil provides nutrients shows you're an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about
Jonathan Rogers
>JD Moyer method Scalp Massage Method I use a combination of three techniques:
1. With one hand, pinch and release a small section of my scalp with a “claw” grip, using the nails (which I keep short) to get a good grip. I’m not scratching my scalp; my scalp is moving with the motion of my hand (which is true for all the techniques). 2. Using my palms, press and squeeze my scalp in circular motions, using a fair amount of pressure. 3. With both hands, with a more open “claw” grip, stretch, pull, and compress my scalp in various directions
Oliver Morris
Based as fuck OP, I know this is true because I used to only buzz the side of my head and I would always rub them because it felt good. The hair at the side is thick as fuck but the top is thinning. I will try this and if it works OP, you can bet blessings will come your way.
People want to make money off of everything and will lie to do so, but who knew eternal life was actually free of charge?
Julian Reed
Applying coconut oil to your scalp may have benefits. I'm not concerned with discussing it in this context precisely because I don't know what benefits if any it may directly provide toward alleviating hair loss and I have no scientific studies to directly link back to. The entire point of this explanation is that the hair loss can be reversed without the application of external products you absolute dingbat.
>The entire point of this explanation is that the hair loss can be reversed without the application of external products you absolute dingbat. >post doesn't tell how much time you should waste massaging your scalp every day >scientific
Jaxon Wood
See below. >post doesn't tell how much time you should waste massaging your scalp every day >Every day, the patient with baldhead problem required a morning and night massaging treatment for every discretized skin patch regions with duration of 20 minutes per session. The total treatment time took about 300 days. It's right there in the scientific article. And also right here:
Blake Hughes
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Jason Bailey
Would a niacin flush work
Jaxon Roberts
I don't have any relatives with any sort of baldness nor receding hairline. But we do have a problem on early stage of gray hair. Thanks OP for this post
Bentley Turner
Use a derm roller, minox and nizoral
Brayden Ortiz
nope, this post is wrong
Mason Thompson
I personally believe the answer is cooming. Frequently.
Evan Anderson
Why?
Ayden Baker
>appeal to the herd
Asher Rodriguez
>is a digestible fat, 862kcal per 100g >doesn't provide "nutrients" topkek, user what do you think nutrients are?
William Martin
0,5 mg finasteride daily
Kevin Lee
>2019 >being a baldlet >having so little testosterone you don't even go bald enjoy your no gains, faggots lmao
Elijah Cox
Hey OP, thanks for the info. Would you happen to have a link to Rob’s ebook? The price for it is too high imo, its called Peftect Hair Health i believe.
Brody Edwards
>Wall of text LMAO just take finasteride
Grayson Allen
I believe DHT is a heavy contributor to baldness but not the only factor. I've been taking fin/duta for years and it's definitely slowed my hairloss but it's still progressing slowly.
If hairloss is also cause by bad circulation, what about drugs that improve circulation like tadalafil (cialis)? Dilates the blood vessels and increases blood flow. I don't know, just a thought.
>No way. Millions of men and scientists have put effort into stopping hairloss. If the answer were this simple then it would be known and everyone would do it. >Stop that, Columbus, if there was a passage to India that way, we'd already use it IQ89
Also, OP is right. Historically, all baldness cures were mainly improvements to scalp circulation. And, fun fact, according to traditional medicine, balding is a lack of blood and fluids.
Justin Robinson
Aren't derma roller and minox work on the same idea (microneedling work on another idea of wounding the follicles)?
Angel Price
LISTEB HERE:
DHT causes bad blood flow in the scalp. That's it.
Its not a blood circulation problem in itself, is the DHT that blocks the blood flow in the scalp if you are sensitive to it Thats why DHT blokers work and thats why massaging/brushing you scalp also works
Jeremiah Sanchez
Fin/duta doesn't block T which also have its affect on hairloss for men prone to baldness but less than DHT, So the slow progress is likely due to it.
Andrew Davis
I have a receding hairline. Been on fin for the last year or two. Buzzed last week. There's hope.
This has to be the most disingenuous before/after pick I've ever seen. >rotated over 90 degrees so the shit hairline that's emphasized in the first one isn't even in the shot in the second >hair unnaturally mussed up to look stupid and thin in the first, nicely groomed and smoothed down in the second He could literally have taken these on the same day.
>I've been taking fin/duta for years and it's definitely slowed my hairloss but it's still progressing slowly. Not even dutasteride blocks ALL your DHT production. Even the 5mg finasteride pills prescribed for prostate issues only block like 80% of it, IIRC.
Carson Stewart
>This has to be the most disingenuous before/after pick I've ever seen. You need glasses, bro. Really, really badly.
Dominic Nelson
Bad posture affecting blood circulation
Dominic Johnson
>You need glasses, bro. You do need pretty powerful glasses to think comparing a pic of his hairline with a pic of the back of his head can tell you anything.
Owen Reed
IIRC a 5% peppermint essential oil solution had similar effectiveness as minoxidil for hair growth, with the researchers speculating that the menthol stimulated bloodflow to the area. But minoxidil and peppermint oil and what have you only slow hair loss or help grow body hair. DHT antagonists are the only chemicals that have reversed it thus far.
Charles Taylor
literally who tf cares about baldness
Nolan Ross
Based thread
Daniel Myers
People that are balding????
Aaron Jenkins
I buzzed mine last week too. You look good. At least we can stop thinking about hair now.
Jonathan Allen
this most people don't realize that both dht AND testosterone are androgens. There is a reason it's called "androgenic alopecia", all androgens play a role
Connor Bennett
Let's see how it looks, man.
Ryan Price
There was a study conducted with minox and microneedling which demonstrated regrowth at a much higher rate than only using minox
Jackson Diaz
Fin, biotin and fish oil are good starters. Read a bit about this scalp massaging but I cant be fuckin bothered testing it daily.
Jose Johnson
Reminder that we all grow old and that there is nothing wrong with that.
Daniel Diaz
Yes but theres no good reason to look old when you're young
in my research apparently some compound known as PDG2 is responsible for constricting blood flow. Personally if were better with organic chemistry, i'd develop a compound that both destroys DHT and PDG2 in the scalp will also having PGE2 or some other compound permanently bind itself to the follicles such that DHT and PDG2 would never be able to affect them
Charles Barnes
I have no problem growing old, I just want to have a bad ass old man mane and beard combo when im too old to give a fuck
Anthony Perry
The true redpill is that about 50% of men have a genetic proneness to DHT. What's one of the biggest causes of high DHT levels? Masturbation. Are you going bald? Stop masturbating. Have you already lost a lot of hair? Get a dermaroller or get a transplant. Fin doesn't regrow hair on bald areas, only thin areas. If your temples are bald, you need to use a dermaroller. Hair growth oil is also useful. Good luck.
Jaxon Moore
>literally who tf cares about baldness >literally who tf cares about brushing >literally who tf cares about anything
Its an obstacle, something that has eluded man of an answer for millenia, and know we're finally beginning to understand just an iota of whats really going on, imagine if some user actually finds a "cure" to baldness. He'd go down in history, forever known as the man who did what thousands of others couldn't, and would effectively erase the only shitty thing about being a man.
Asher Jenkins
>The true redpill is that about 50% of men have a genetic proneness to DHT So you also just don't get to fuck a lot if u value your hair?
Gavin Cooper
Sex produces high levels of oxytocin as well as a testosterone boost that nullifies the DHT spike that ejaculation triggers. You're still losing nutrients by ejaculating during sex that are required to grow hair, but you're not destroying your hormone cycle like you would fapping. It's still not good for your hair, but it's not as bad.
Josiah Anderson
god bless you user have a bump
Michael Sullivan
this
Lucas Rodriguez
You're clearly scared of growing old.
Jeremiah Gray
just take the derma roller pill plus scalp massage and peppermint oil. or you can use minixodil if you want but then you have to use that shit forever
Matthew Reyes
If you eat less food when youre fat youll lose weight >No way. Millions of men and scientists have put effort into stopping weight gain. If the answer were this simple then it would be known and everyone would do it.
James Campbell
it just is
Parker James
Why i feel this is NOT going to work at all ? Ill fucking massage my scalp every day now 2 times a day for a year and see ok but i Know this will not work
Daniel Robinson
even if the "tight scalp" theory is true and massages do work somewhat you are fighting an uphill battle, because that tight scalp is caused by androgens, dht and testosterone, that's why women don't go bald (ok they do but for other reasons and it's very rare)
Elijah Hernandez
Nice trips. I'll also follow you alongside on your your one year journey. There is only gains to be made. Massages with peppermint oil, while upping the onion, garlic, ginger and cumin intake. And lets not forget to do strenous cardio at least once a week.
Jaxson Cook
This theory about scalp tightening/calcification and decreased blood flow has been discussed for years already.
Justin Anderson
If you intend to spend a year doing this, you better document it with a daily journal and monthly pics.
Anthony Scott
But they do go bald I've seen plenty of 40+ women which have almost the same problems men have. I think it's a food problem coupled with not enough excercise
Hunter Lee
It's gene expression. Activity and diet influence the genes expressed. These expressions then carry over to the next generation and DNA becomes encoded with inferior information because of direct ancestors bad habits, poor nutrition and other stressors.
Carson Allen
And in that sense, every man and woman reaps the rewards and the sins of their ancestors both physically and monetarily.
Alexander Brooks
Massage with oil?
Josiah Cook
Genes ofc play a huge role but like with everything in life, balding must have some sort of trigger or multiple triggers for it to happen.
Isaiah Martinez
This
Dylan Sanders
not to mention minoxidil most likely only increases follicle sensitivity to blood flow, NOT increasing actual blood flow to the region. I’m not OP but I theorize this is why a lot of users of min report that without other drugs, it only appears to work for a small handful of years and continuously becomes less effective.
Isaiah Richardson
Based retard. The sides are thick because male pattern baldness leaves the sides intact most of the time. What a fucking dense cunt LMAO.
Evan Price
i notice hairloss on my hair line, its partial, but my brothers have good hairlines and mine changed differently as we got older into secondary/high school, i suspect this may be because i encountered different issues emotionally which caused my forehead to become tight over time. over the years, another correlation ive noticed is people tend to tell me my eyebrows are really low, that im always frowning etc.
the kicker, our father is bald.
its quite clear the answer is simply 1 of 2 things. 1)I have the bald gene and am experiencing receeding 2)my tight forehead has caused my hairline to receed slightly.
i just perfomed a really tough forehead massage, i could literally hear the tissue break. i will try this daily, but dont count on seeing me post here with any updates.
so, if you're like me and have a constant resting bitch face, people tell you you look mean etc. massage your forehead deeply, put REAL pressure on it and go in circular motions. then perform headstands with proper form (watch actual indians do it on youtube, not some white suburban mother) do these twice daily, and do nizoral x derma roller x3 a week. i have noticed regrowth of smaller hairs along my hairline but have not been consistant, with consistency i believe i can once again have a good youthful hairline and recover.
good luck bros
Jack Price
Will try to do
Samuel Thomas
My father has MPB but I've always been told by barbers that I have thick hair. I'm 20 and the hair on my temples have slightly retreated, but that's because the hair that used to be there resembled baby hair (thin and super fucking blonde). I pretty much look like your typical German in WW2 with my current haircut. If I don't start going bald; sweet. If I do start growing bald, I'm going to shave my head and be a fucking boss. Men with shaved heads are seen as more masculine. Why do you faggots care so much about having hair? You bitches repulse me. Probably fat fuckers in their early 30's that realize they waisted their entire lives jerking off to hentai and drinking mountain dew.
Tyler Lewis
you don't know what you're talking about even a closely shaved norwood 1-2 is a compltely different story from norwood 4+
