>imagine being in your 30s-40s never having a romantic partner
>imagine working your whole life away while your significant others gets her holes plugged daily
>imagine meeting her for the first time
>everything you do some guy probably did it for her
>anywhere you take her be it the theatres, a bar, a park, a fancy restaurant, etc it will never be special
>it will never be special for her
>she will pretend to be happy, says she "likes you" that she had a "great time"
>but deep down you know she's lying
>she is only settling for you
>now imagine getting in bed with her for the first time
>sex is the final bonding moment
>the point where two people really come as one
>but not for you
>you've never had sex, and she has had plenty
>imagine her disappointment as you give her the most mediocre sex of her life, all the while bring her on the same dates other guys have taken.
>now imagine that women who you loved so much leaving you
>because you were nothing but disappointment in her eyes.
Giving up at women
you didn't have to do this, user
If you are in your 30's and never had a partner you're fucked. No way a young, sweet innocent girl will fall for you and even if you managed to get some young 20 something everyone will think you're a creep. There's no winning this game, not once will you find a girl to hold you in her sleep because your body is too cold and metallic to be touched by human hands at this point. We were made to suffer.
im not in my 30's but this thought is very scary
Just don't throw your life away getting the good job meme it money doesn't matter in the end because women don't need it. I can only attract single mothers which is fucking horrid women only look at me for money and all my peers make fun of me for being single for this long. Life just gets worse and worse as you mature because people expect you to just settle down and get a family but that's impossible if you never been in a meaningful relationship before. No woman in her 30's wants to teach a grown autist how to kiss it's just weird.
Being thought of as a creep doesn't really matter, but the real problem is that she's going to either be broken or be trying to take advantage of you, most likely both. And that's fine, because the reverse is also true.
I think that it's true even earlier, around 25, but the older you get the more unsalvagable it becomes, until you hit a terminus point. By the time you hit your 40s it's just completely fucking pointless to try relationships anymore. Fill your life with other things and try to become a leader of a community or something else productive that married people don't have the time or energy to do.
-t. old man
You autists always think you're so above going for the unattractive girls and getting practice on them. You deserve everything you get.
In my case, they have never interested in me. It's really annoying how women can't understand being so unattractive at such a deep level that nobody will ever be interested in you.
What also makes it really hard is how untrustful women will become of men the more men they sleep with, every time I talk to a girl online she thinks I'm just trying to pump and dump her, she then accuses me which in results cause me to sperg out because I don't know how to flirt or talk to women then she leaves, rinse and repeat. I hate the advice I get from my peers too, they tell me it's all confidence, that I'm not trying hard enough but they don't understand that if you get rejected and shitted on by women constantly for years and year your self-esteem and confidence will plummet. Especially when women begin gossiping about you. Perhaps my peers are just being cruel because they enjoy rubbing their relationships in my face whenever they get the chance.
When did I say anything about practice? Mean user, you don't know me.
Sorry for just wanting to fit in. Should've known better, now I guess I'll go crawl in my hole of self-pity and whine about my existence alone while everyone enjoys their life so so sorry for bothering you guys with my insignificance.
I was a khhv NEET at 31 when I made a connection with a pretty 20 yo I was casually talking to on Reddit, she seemed very into me, leading to us meeting up several times (after months of talking) adding up to a few weeks. Whole gf experience from cuddling/handholding to long goodbye kissing sessions at the train station. She had a high libido and masochist streak as well and would let me do anything I wanted to her. Turns out she had a boyfriend she felt neglected by and little attraction towards whom she was cheating on with me and she decided to stay with him since she was dependent in several ways and he was materially providing a safe environment for her. Also I got a bit needy and I think she realized the potential social implications of her behavior. I became too emotionally attached and felt potential for a deeper and lasting connection - how much of an idiot was I...? Her decision to end the affair abruptly and without much communication was the first rejection of that kind I experienced. Pic related.
None of this matters if you have a big dick
Fuck that shit ho ass nigga
alright. was fun
She's a whore and you're a virgin. Use her and abuse her, and then you won't be a virgin anymore!
>And that's fine, because the reverse is also true.
Except it's not? loltf
Put your dick in her mouth or in her ass! It don't matter if she's a woman, she's probably harder emotionally than you! What you waiting for? If she don't like it and leaves you, just find another cunt. Believe me, there's plenty!
Humans can only live a limited bumbers of time. After that you are jaded and emotionless. Women who had a lot of lovers will never feel how they felt the first time they were in love
I meant love
Origii
>anywhere you take her be it the theatres, a bar, a park, a fancy restaurant, etc it will never be special
Lmao imagine being this fucking unoriginal with your date ideas. I've got the makings of a unique and fun date in my car at all times
>working solely to be a provider
mate, just work a medium salary job and invest your income in the stocks, coins etc. and use the earnings for travelling/road trips
>inb4 i luv travelling xD
>starts his autistic rant with "imagine"
stopped right there. you're one of those fabled mentally ill incels, aren't you?
Well you've managed to get close to a young 20 yo which is more than all of us could say. You're not an idiot but unfortunate you got caught up in a love triangle must have been stressful. I'm 34 and every girl I ask always rejects me unless if they're a single mom, which is unfair because most of us guys in our 30's who never experienced love and affection are just expected to "man up" and pick up after someone's baggage it's just not right.
True, you are not meant to have multiple relationships. Im not even in my 30s, but finding an inexperienced girl is nearly impossible.
It really disgusts me when girls talk about who they made out with on the weekend " hahahaha made out with this guy, he was kinda cute bit kinda gross too haha "
Makes me really sick hearing that.
Also talking about how many fwb relationships they had.
How they will go to the stripclub together in a few weeks.
We need a huge war, where most people die (hopefully not me tho) and then live with standarts again. Work actually makes sense again (you need a house, so build one, you need food so grow it).
Whores will be thrown out of society again.
You know your neighbours again, you love your family again.
The only question is; was it better than nothing?
You're one of those judgmental types that will hate someone for being different aren't you?
Only the ones who are order of magnitudes more retarded than me. Different is fine
>but finding an inexperienced girl is nearly impossible.
Lets be fair though, if we had access to easy sex with high quality mates since puberty, we would have done the same. 16-26 is the prime of most woman, its only natural that they take advantage of it. It just sucks for guys because lesser men like us get left out until we become able to provide, and woman are looking for that once they are over the hill and experienced.
>Lets be fair though, if we had access to easy sex with high quality mates since puberty, we would have done the same.
Why? Are you retarded in the brain? Why would you?
Yes, although it lead to some considerable suffering on both sides (her bf found out about the affair because of me.) As with so many things pain often facilitates growth and learning processes. Days after the rejection felt like I would imagine drug withdrawal to feel like, weeks after I was still trying to figure out what happened, what was real and what wasn't. The whole experience was catalyzing though and I have been dating other women since then, gaining more experience and learning from it.
Yeah I'm sure most guys would turn down 7-10/10 stacies chasing them down relentlessly in high school.
300 billion flies eat shit, have you tried it?
It's true, you'll never be able to impress women with your shit life.
Not sure if this bit of information is useful but I never asked a girl out before this experience or put any considerable effort into getting sex or into a relationship. It was just after this whole episode that I got more needy for this aspect of life that I hadn't experienced before. My mind was focused on other things, I wasn't bitter at all and accepted and took responsibility for my situation internally.
Please stop, I was having a good day
Also just know that your fucked. It's not the rest of the world, just you. All I read was bitches don't sit on my dick whenever I feel like it. And I feel inadequate.
You need to work through shit before you can have an adult relationship
>You need to work through shit before you can have an adult relationship
If you are a man.
>caring about others
Humans won't solve anything, just indulge yourself and embrace isolation. That's the superior solution to 'loneliness' why waste effort, time, and resources on some trash that won't benefit you any?
If your a human.
>You need to work through shit before you can have an adult relationship
What kind of shit specifically?
No, only men have to fix their flaws to get laid, woman don't have to lift a finger.
>while your significant others gets her holes plugged daily
Clearly you're a young summerfag. I'm 52 and virgin, I've seen shit.
First, sometime around 30 you stop being obsessed with virginity. You notice your friends Plugging Dem Holes(TM), but you start realizing:
- dem holes weren't virgin in the first place
- your friends became full fledged wageslaves, with little to no free time
- no less than half of dem dudes got divorce-raped
- their kids were autismo anyway, getting their massive daily indoctrination dose of gay faggotry
- most of dem dudes got cheated on because Chad Plugs Better(TM)
- the actual meaning of "Significant Other" is "Significant Expense to Plug Dem Other"
Eventually you find out you're 40 and you're the luckiest of your former group of schoolmates/collegemates. You saved enough for retirement, they are wasting 401(k) money on a new car because the Pluggable Holes is demanding it. You are debtless, they're working long hours to pay insane interests because the Pluggable Holes keeps wasting shit (and claiming "we HAVE to renovate the kitchen because OUR NEIGHBOR already did!"). You're enjoying your free time. While drinking with coworkers, you're the only one enjoying his beer without complaining about family and shit. Their face when you tell them you bought a Playstation on a whim and spent a whole Sunday playing Gran Turismo. Their face when they see your $400 Crespi combat boots and tell you "I can't spend more than 100 bucks on a pair of shoes, wife would kill me (yet she spends 200-300 every fuckin time)".
Then a big loser tells you the "joy" of dating a single mom whose differently colored kids "are all my life". You tell him "that's great, bro", while dramatically fighting the urge to laugh. Oh, she moved in and instantly ordered him to wash his feet every evening and every morning because she thinks they smell. You can't help but let out a laughter, and you need to add "every single mom demands it" to not to hurt him.
You know what they are. I'm not taking wild unqualified stabs.
But if you're completely ignorant to them, there's no saving you. But I'm guessing you know them well, but you're too lazy to do anything about it.
Sheeeeeeeeet, you think sex is a relationship, cumon man. Don't be a think cunt
That's just how human sexuality is, the challenge for women is to get emotional commitment from attractive men and good/fulfilling sex, not sex in general.
>What also makes it really hard is how untrustful women will become of men the more men they sleep with
Yeah, I've had wild accusations thrown at me too, most notably that "I always think they're lying", which is obviously because they've been in really shady relationships with cheating and shit, most likely on their part.
So you're just talking shit, gotcha.
>You need to work through shit before you can have an adult relationship
This is just an attempt to pretend an inherently unfair system is actually the result of a personal moral failing on a man's part, so that it doesn't interfere with your "just world" normie worldview.
You didn't even bother to understand what I was trying to say, why do normal people assume the worse of us just because we have trouble in relationships?
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Because good people don't, what else do you want as an answer? Have you ever seen a good guy (6'2, 7 inch dick, 120k income, on roids/HGH, good clothes, Rolex+, hair transplants, veneers, no deformities) have relationship troubles?
I want to give up on women, but the thought of one day having a fulfilling relationship is all that has kept me going for almost a decade now.
If I give up on that I'll have nothing left, no reason to keep living.
The only girls who are truly "unattractive" are single moms and whores.
>found the roastie
I take your point, but the thought of other people thinking of me as a creep doesn't bother me. In other situations it does, but not in this one. Fuck them, I (hypothetically) have a cutie young girl all to myself. The possibility of getting myself a 20 year old girl when I'm 30 actually kind of sustains me; it's a legitimate prospect compared to getting a girl now, given that women tend to prefer older men.
I don't want to "practice" on somebody, that is a cruel thing to do.
You got me confused, I never asked for advice because all the advice people gave me never worked. I am tall, fit, have a car and my own place, and yet you assume I'm one of those incel fucks that never try, is a NEET, and never bathes. You're not very understanding but that's okay nobody is on the internet
Then what do you want out of life moron, everything you can get you'll be taking from other people, if you think that's cruel, then you'll always be a loser.
He just doesn't want to take advantage of some girls heart just so he can be better at sex.
Then what else can he do, a whore will never teach him right, he's gotta use at least 5-6 women to get on an acceptable level.
>Then what do you want out of life moron
I just want a mutually fulfilling relationship with a girl, based on honesty and trust.
This is why you get a teen gf you idiot, stop being a moralfag cuck. Women our own age are complete cancer and are not gf material, they are only good for their holes.
Save up, get resources and get a teen gf, it's that simple dipshit.
>if you managed to get some young 20 something everyone will think you're a creep
Who fucking cares what normies think? fuck them, do what you want. Women are allowed to be shallow in regard to height so I'll be shallow in regards to age, they can all go straight to hell.
Sorry, asking for too much. You get nothing, good day to you sir.
I settled for hookers a long time ago OP. I don't know if it makes me happy but it certainly scratches an itch and I keep going back.
I make a day of it now, I'll go out in the morning to a city where they have hookers, do some shopping, then see the hooker then have a nice meal. It's pretty comfy.
The hookers I've had (escorts they like to be called and I book appointments in advance) have all been better looking than any woman who has shown/reciprocated interest in me.
Try escorts OP.
Good luck with that lol, sounds like beta incel shit, the most you'll get with that attitude is some bitch taking you for all you're worth.
>let me do anything I wanted to her
Expand please, what did you do?
>The whole experience was catalyzing though and I have been dating other women since then, gaining more experience and learning from it
How have you been doing that may I ask? online?
Unless you are a normie I don't get how you can just date other women all of a sudden considering you were a virgin up until 31, it doesn't make sense.
>Sorry for just wanting to fit in. Should've known better, now I guess I'll go crawl in my hole of self-pity and whine about my existence alone while everyone enjoys their life so so sorry for bothering you guys with my insignificance.
What can we do about this? It's a shit way to exist.
Why are you comparing humans to flies?
Yeah, online dating (pretty sure I'd approach irl as well now, if the situation and signals are there.) I'd probably be considered normie (as many here would) by purist incel standards as I'm tall and not severely deformed. I will not go into detail about my physical flaws here, but they do objectively exist. I had a pretty fucked up childhood/biography and many experiences robots sharr. I was never bitter though and see the factors that lie my own responsibility leading to my situation as well, whether I could have acted differently or not. The mind leads and the body follows. I'd been going through a process of becoming aware of the true value of closer social connections for the first time in my life and other related complex processes in the years before the affair, becoming more uninhibited to follow my heart and instincts instead of staying in my head or comfort zone. The mind leads and the body follows, but it's not not an intellectual mechanism, it's a slow emotional and partly unconscious journey.
cringe ass faggot1