Why are Americans okay that some of their richest cities look like this?

But do they keep them from going back? A sweep won't do shit if they come back the hour after

Open up mental hospitals and try and treat drug addiction like other countries do while making it illegal to take up the sidewalks with their disgusting tents

nah they just stay away for a little bit and eventually camps are back up

Why don't they throw the homeless in jails or mental hospitals and be done with it?

Jails are overburdened and lefties dont want more to be built, expanded, or remodeled. The US health system is fucked and when they get brought in they are just stabilized and let back out a couple of days later.

THATS CALLED SOCIALISM YOU COMMIE!!

some places do make it illegal to be homeless (begging being against the law) but its not a very popular solution in places like LA since its not republican controlled

We do want to build housing for them though where they have the option of living in a small studio apartment instead of being on the streets. The right doesn't like that idea though.

Is there a reason why other countries can keep their cities from being overrun by filthy tents and drug addicts whereas the US can't?

because we would either have to decrease military spending or increase taxes and both those ideas cause most americans to go into a shit fit because most americans are retarded. also everyone would start shouting socialism as they shit themselves in their trailers

>We do want to build housing for them though where they have the option of living in a small studio apartment instead of being on the streets. The right doesn't like that idea though.
Actually that's a retarded idea since they will just trash their apartments and fuck up the neighborhood they live in. Normal people don't tend to become homeless whereas drug addicts do

Because the US couldn't give a fuck less about these people user. They don't care about them. Our government would dump them all in the ocean if it could. They're not people, they're just an eyesore.

Has it worked in the places it's illegal to be homeless in?

>Normal people don't tend to become homeless whereas drug addicts do
Yeah. It's drugs that are the issue.

But isn't it cities that controls laws regarding homelessness and not the central government?

The mentally ill do. People who had their homes taken away from them during the recession do. And also drug addicts, sure. But drug addicts should be forced to go to hospitals and rehab centers because drug addiction is a health issue and not a criminal one. There are easy, cheap fixes for most of America's problems but Americans would rather see people suffer.

>illegal to be homeless
So, what do they do with people they've arrested for being homeless

They sit in jail for a while and then they're released back onto the streets.

>Yeah. It's drugs that are the issue.
Why do liberals want to destigmatize and make drugs legal if drugs are the problem?

not all homeless are drug addicts and not all drug addicts are homeless. think of how many functional alcoholics there are out there. alcohol is a drug

They're only the rich by technicality, not by living standards. Even poor fucks out in Idaho live better than most people in California.

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>But drug addicts should be forced to go to hospitals and rehab centers because drug addiction is a health issue and not a criminal one
The US should invade fucking Mexico. These drug cartels are literally terrorist enterprises attacking the US.

Yes, that's why you will find nobody of good character west of the mississippi.

Because legalizing drugs will make it more likely for them to become a public health issue rather than a criminal issue so drug addicts are actually helped rather than thrown in jail, where they just do more drugs.

>not all homeless are drug addicts and not all drug addicts are homeless.
There might be 1 out of 100 that is homeless while living in a filthy tent that's not mentally ill or a drug addict, but that's the exception not the rule

The new Mexican president is trying to take care of the issue. He's one of the first presidents who isn't being bribed by the cartels and is trying to take Mexico out of narcostate status.

Japan and Singapore has some of the toughest drug laws in the world and they have extremely few problems with drugs and homelessness compared to the West were we have lax laws.

sure thing pal, drug addiction is usually a byproduct of the hard times they fell upon not the reason they are homeless

>sociopathic burger
Many are mentally ill, many lost their homes in the recession. Many are war veterans. As much as America likes to suck the military's dick, we don't do shit for them when they come back home from "fighting for our freedom(oil)".

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>The new Mexican president is trying to take care of the issue. He's one of the first presidents who isn't being bribed by the cartels and is trying to take Mexico out of narcostate status.
*dismissive grunt*
We'll see.

Probably because drugs aren't part of their culture. We're not japan. It's too late for America, the damage has been done. We need to see drug addiction as a health issue. The crack epidemic proved that locking people up for being victims helps no one and only further deteriorates a community.

>Many are mentally ill, many lost their homes in the recession.
Most normal people that lose their homes ended up living in their car, with their parents or with their friends. Very few of the normal people that lost their homes ended up living in filthy tents
>Many are war veterans.

Yes, war causes mental problems
>sure thing pal, drug addiction is usually a byproduct of the hard times they fell upon not the reason they are homeless

Not really, it's drugs that cause hard times not the other way around

>Most normal people that lose their homes ended up living in their car, with their parents or with their friends. Very few of the normal people that lost their homes ended up living in filthy tents
You don't know this. You're just saying shit. And people who live in cars still count as homeless and need to be helped.
>Yes, war causes mental problems
And we should help them since we like to blow our veterans when they walk into fucking ihop.

>Probably because drugs aren't part of their culture.
Because it's incredibly stigmatized and very illegal
>It's too late for America, the damage has been done.
No, culture can change extremely quickly, it's just very recently that hedonism has taken over
>We need to see drug addiction as a health issue.
Having lax drug laws doesn't seem to work though
>The crack epidemic proved that locking people up for being victims helps no one and only further deteriorates a community.
If we locked up most drug dealers and strangled the supply of drugs how wouldn't that help with drug addiction if drugs became incredibly hard and expensive to get?

i give up there is no point arguing with a retard who knows nothing of the subject. some people dont have family sometimes its the whole family thats homeless dipshit.

if you honestly think that the entire reason why someone is homeless is because they use drugs youre stupid, it takes a lot more than that to become homeless. have you ever actually had a conversation with a homeless person or do you just see them and think that could never happen to me. it most definitely can happen to you and i hope it does.

We have to admit though that this homeless plague at least seems to be a uniquely American problem. At least in third world countries there's not the kind of restrictive building codes so people can at least build a little shack. Which turn into slums obviously.

>You don't know this. You're just saying shit.
I know this, most people can fall back on their friends or family if something like that happens
>And people who live in cars still count as homeless and need to be helped.
Depends, many people live in their cars are normal and bounce back after a few times. This type of homelessness is very different from living in a filthy tent
>And we should help them since we like to blow our veterans when they walk into fucking ihop.
Or maybe stop getting into wars ffs. Also a lot of homeless lie about being vets to get more money since people feel a lot of empathy to vets, so don't belive most homeless who said they served since they probably didn't

Both of you dickheads need to cite sources backing up your claims.

>Because it's incredibly stigmatized and very illegal
It's been like that for a very long time. Drugs are part of American culture. It's too late to go back. Prohibition only makes things worse, we already learned that by trying to prohibit alcohol. The only outcome was crime.
>No, culture can change extremely quickly, it's just very recently that hedonism has taken over
Americans and westerners in general have always liked drugs. Don't kid yourself.
>Having lax drug laws doesn't seem to work though
Worked for Portugal.
>If we locked up most drug dealers and strangled the supply of drugs how wouldn't that help with drug addiction if drugs became incredibly hard and expensive to get?
Drug addicts get locked up too, which doesn't help. And there are new drug dealers made everyday.

>Depends, many people live in their cars are normal and bounce back after a few times. This type of homelessness is very different from living in a filthy tent
People shouldn't have to live in cars, that's the issue.
>Or maybe stop getting into wars ffs
You think we choose this? The wars are for profit, Americans have no choice in the matter.

>i give up there is no point arguing with a retard who knows nothing of the subject. some people dont have family sometimes its the whole family thats homeless dipshit.
Almost every normal person has either family or friends that can help them out user
>if you honestly think that the entire reason why someone is homeless is because they use drugs youre stupid, it takes a lot more than that to become homeless. have you ever actually had a conversation with a homeless person or do you just see them and think that could never happen to me.
I've tried to talk to them but they just ramble on about crazy shit and talk about weird delusions. For me it has been literally been impossible to talk to homeless that live in those tents, however ppl sleeping in their cars tend to be normal
>it most definitely can happen to you and i hope it does.
I'd just live in my car, move back to my parents or ask my friends if I can sleep on their couch if I lose the place I live in like almost everyone else odes

It sucks here senpai. I can to the US to work at a tech company from Germany and I am trying to get back to Deutschland immediately. There are gunshots outside my home almost every day. You can't wall outside at night, there are slums so dangerous you cannot even park your car there. I miss Germany. There isn't homeless people there, or very very few. There isn't ever a "bad side of town" there either. I can't believe the richest nation on Earth is like this.

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>Almost every normal person has either family or friends that can help them out user
Not everyone is so lucky. So what do we do about the people who have no family that will take them in?
>I'd just live in my car, move back to my parents or ask my friends if I can sleep on their couch if I lose the place I live in like almost everyone else odes
>"I'll just ask dad for a few hundred thousand to help me get back on my feet"
You're speaking from a place of privilege. Not everyone is blessed with the things you are blessed with.

>People shouldn't have to live in cars, that's the issue.
Not really, I'm probably going to have to live in my car for at least a few months sometime in my life and that's fine. It's people that clutter the streets and make them unsafe and gross that's the problem. Doctors are literally afraid that the plague coming back due to the filth that the homeless bring
>You think we choose this? The wars are for profit, Americans have no choice in the matter.
Wars are horrible for business and profits though for almost every single industry except the military industrial complex

>So what do we do about the people who have no family that will take them in?
Those people probably have friends or a car they can stay in user. Almost everyone was friends user
>You're speaking from a place of privilege. Not everyone is blessed with the things you are blessed with.
Asking friends if it's cool to sleep on their couch and being willing to sleep in my car for a few months is a place of privilege now lmao

wtf i love endorsing the criminal enterprise that forces the pushing of illegal substances now and especially their other activities

>There isn't ever a "bad side of town" there either.
As a lifetime American I don't understand, there is no way this is true. There has been a bad side of town everywhere I have lived or been.

Lock the drug dealers up so we cut the supply and treat the addicts, problem solved

Woah I didn't know someone who has been homeless could act like such a spoiled little shit.

No! Drugs dealers should be a protected class. Obstruction is literally communism!

>Not really, I'm probably going to have to live in my car for at least a few months sometime in my life and that's fine
No that's not fine. There should be something in place for people who end up homeless. We shouldn't have people goddamn living in cars in the richest country on the planet.
>Doctors are literally afraid that the plague coming back due to the filth that the homeless bring
And this is why we should HELP the homeless rather than treat them like garbage
>Wars are horrible for business and profits though for almost every single industry except the military industrial complex
Well tell that to the US government, I have no say in what they do. They recently just contemplated war with Venezuela and tried to instigate war with Iran.

>Those people probably have friends or a car they can stay in user. Almost everyone was friends user
Not everyone has friends and people shouldn't be living in cars.
>Asking friends if it's cool to sleep on their couch and being willing to sleep in my car for a few months is a place of privilege now lmao
Yes it is privileged because not everyone has friends that hey can stay with

Most of those homeless are just bussed out from other states under the guise of "we're ill equpped to help them" so the cities are just left to deal with them on their own. It basically boils down to out of sight out of mind. Most people don't care about the homeless as long as they don't have to look at them.

Drug dealers are locked up and new ones come in. If this strategy didn't work in American ghettos during the crack epidemic, what makes you think it'll work now?

We need to get to the root cause of why people feel the need to turn to drug dealing. I've sold drugs before because I was working a full time job yet couldn't keep up with bills. Many people go to drugs because of poverty. Not much of a surprise when you live in a country where there is greater income inequality than there was in France before their revolution.

>Drug dealers are locked up and new ones come in.
Why would new people become drug dealers if they knew they would get caught and arrested? are people really that dumb?

>No that's not fine. There should be something in place for people who end up homeless. We shouldn't have people goddamn living in cars in the richest country on the planet.
How so? I'd be fine if I lived in my car for a few months
>And this is why we should HELP the homeless rather than treat them like garbage
Those homeless people that you want to protect are making our cities dirtier, less safe and they're spreading around disease. I've even heard of parents who's kid got infected by hepatitis due to a drug addict leaving a needle in a park. Yeah right let's protect the homeless and let they spread diseases to us and our children whoooo

Yes drug dealing is a irresistible job. People are always willing to die for foreign suppliers

>and try and treat drug addiction like other countries do
No matter where you go you're going to find drug addicts on the street of any city.

If people are desperate enough they will commit crimes in spite of the consequences. Don't forget crimes of passion exist too. Do you think the 1950's were some kinda utopia? Shit man murder rates were crazy high back then.

how long till the us gets him 'removed'?

>No matter where you go you're going to find drug addicts on the street of any city.
Maybe you see one or two during your whole trip, but they don't take up entire districts like in the US and you don't see people living in tents everywhere in any other city in other Western nations

I agree, as one of the richest city of the richest country, there shouldn't be any homeless. All the homeless should be deported to poorer estates or if needed, countries. If you don't have a job and contribute nothing to the world best society, you should have no place on it.

Because the reward outweighs the risk. For every drug dealer who gets caught, there are a ton more who don't. Freeway Rick Ross, an LA drug kingpin, got away with selling drugs for years just because he kept everything low key and didn't buy a lot of stuff

>If people are desperate enough they will commit crimes in spite of the consequences
But why does this problem seem to be such a huge problem in America? Plenty of other countries have very poor people and still don't have the same homeless and drug problems that the US does
>Do you think the 1950's were some kinda utopia?
Yes and it was
>Shit man murder rates were crazy high back then.
No they weren't they rose during the 70s, the 50s were very safe

>For every drug dealer who gets caught, there are a ton more who don't.
I think that this is the problem, if we caught most of them and were actually tough on crime like Japan and Singapore is we would solve the issue

>How so? I'd be fine if I lived in my car for a few months
People shouldn't have to live in cars, is my point
>Those homeless people that you want to protect are making our cities dirtier
Which is why they should be helped.

>Maybe you see one or two during your whole trip
One or two per block. The whole tent thing is pretty uniquely American though. I was watching a documentary on Seattle and apparently whether they get cleared out or not is out of the police department's hands and gets dictated by the local government.

No it wouldn't. America is tough on drug dealers. There are still people locked up from the 80s. It didn't stop drug dealers from popping up in their place.

>People shouldn't have to live in cars, is my point
Why is it bad to live in a car? Seems okayish to live in one for a few months to me

I don't think it'd ever happen. Mexico is too close and is a major country in Latin America. America can pull that shit with some little country in South America but I don't think it'd fly in Mexico.

>Yes and it was
Read some Burrough. You'd find the same amount of homeless and drug (heroin) addicts in any major city in America during the 50s. Poverty was just as bad in places like the South as they'd been in the 40s and earlier.

Locking people up for selling a service is unamerican

Singapore is a vastly different country though. For starters it's only a city state so they have very good control over their ports and borders. It's exceptionally harder for america just because of how huge the country is.

Because it's not a home. You lack basic necessities.

How about Japan then

I mean living in a car permanently would suck, but for a few months it's fine

because there is no room for them. our jails are all overcrowded as it is. most homeless people are repeat offenders anyway, they go in, get out, rinse and repeat. throwing them all in mental hospitals doesn't work either because keeping a homeless person in a mental hospital costs much more than just throwing them in prison. we just don't really have any type of system to deal with them.

They have the same homeless people in tents kind of culture. They mainly live in public parks, then make themselves scare when the sun comes up.

Japan isn't that big either, although they have their own issues with the justic system and police. While it's not as bad as it used to be they did have a 99% incarceration rate in the courts.

A tent is probably more durable than the average American house. Electricity can be arranged and water isn't an issue either, since most homes don't have running water, or if they do, it's too contaminated to get into contact with

The homeless are in a way the upper class

You don't see nearly as many people living in tents in Japan like you do in the US and the ones that do are pretty clean
>Japan isn't that big either
What? Japan has one of the largest populations on earth

I'm talking geographically. They're a small nation you know. There's also the Yakuza, the actual mafia. They also tend to deal a lot of drugs among the population too. I mean it's pretty easy why to see people deal drugs because there's a lot of money to be made out of it.

>There's also the Yakuza, the actual mafia.
The Yakuza are very small compared to what exists in the US user let's not kid ourselves

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Black men should fuck Japanese women

They still have a fair bit of sway in the country though. Just like the Italian mafia of the times, I wouldn't be surprised if they still hold onto some big corporate or government positions. Small maybe, but they're pretty organized and have their hands in a lot of ventures including drug dealing.

Dying empire, no one can really do anything about it. The rich 1% are grabbing what's left before it all collapses.

Maybe a few decades ago, but now days they have little significance

>t. He still votes for trump

Goyim are so gullible