Evangelion Oedipus Thread

Shinji is an idiot

>a world where you can be anyone and do anything in a blissful singular existance with no individuality to drag you down and happiness via escape from the self
>rejects it


Instrumentality wasnt bad, it was literally heaven, it would have been one never ending comfort in our mothers embrace. Rei would have been our mommy forever. We would never have felt alone again in her arms.

i want my mommy.

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being spiteful is fun

>>i want my mommy


Hidden.

i want my mommy.
my real one never loved me. can i have a new one.

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Evangelion is 3deep5me bullshit with forced fake symbolism to make the edgy kids watching it feel intelligent

Discuss

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oh well. cant be helped

i just want my mommy.

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He rejected the idea of ceasing to be, by becoming monotonous, universal and eternal.

Instead he chose to live life, failure, decay and death along with all the pains and pleasures.

It's a common theme in fiction... for example this was Chi's task in Chobits. Rather than for all living creatures (?) her task was to decide whether to grant the experience of emotion "feeling" and freedom to make decisions "free will" to all persocoms... or to alternatively activate a universal self destruct function that would eliminate all persocoms.

Try to remember Hideki's words to Chi before she makes her decision... after she decided to abort the process and choose neither by burying herself away.

It's all layers of symbolism.

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but returning to the womb with cosmic mommy would have been the best thing to do

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>it was literally heaven
Don't worry, I'll save you all from yourselves.

>What would you do if you were placed in a heaven where you could be anyone, do anything and live forever with limitless power?
I'd end it all, all of you and myself. I'd be a hero and save you from this hell masked as a heaven.

Heaven == Hell (?)

Haven't you realized this is the real meaning behind these ancient legends?

sounds like leeching

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but God Rei is literally a god with unlimited power. She wants to look after us.

youtube.com/watch?v=P91pvMdoZ80

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i dont want power. i want my mommy

>i dont want power. i want my mommy
Same thing. You're a prisoner held by your desires, you fears and your ignorance. We all have freedom and infinite power now... you just don't realize.

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>this thread
what happens in life to break an individual like this

>what happens in an individual to break free from the prison of life like this
Nirvana.

just let me go back to mommy.

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>just let me go back to mommy.
It's okay hunny let mommy give you some sunny D.

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maybe when im dead ill get to see mommy

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mommy will you teach me how to fly
mommy will you teach me how to die

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this thread made me very sad

No one said shinji was a smart cookie user
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I want to fuck giant rei

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yeah she is beautiful
i just want her to be my mom

OP has more mommy issues than me which is saying something, I kinda don't want to ask about it at this point

she never loved me.
ive never known what its like to be loved or even liked by your mother. not even when i was very young.

it broke me. i hope when im dead i get a new one or am born as someone with a mommy who loves me.

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yeah, thatll do it

why dont i have a mommy?

it hurts so much.

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instrumentality is letting go of your existence. you only exist as long as there's distance between you and others, and you can only relate to others when there is a degree of conflict and disagreement.
letting go of instrumentality was the one time baka shinji wasn't a little bitch in the entire series

>the one time baka shinji wasn't a little bitch in the entire series
I'm poster At the same time consider this:
You've given access to a "big red button" that immediately destroys all life and the entire universe. Pressing it means absolute and certain destruction and the cessation of all being forever.

You either:
>1) Press it
Take responsibility for the decision (whether or not it is you place to make it) and decide the fate of everyone, yourself included, by eliminating all suffering and pleasure and everything between forever

>2) Do not press it
You state "it isn't my responsibility to decide the fate of others and I must follow my own destiny which was decided by forces greater than my own will also." By doing this, by "avoiding responsibility" you now shoulder the responsibility for all pain, pleasure and everything between for the remainder of eternity due to your inaction.

>3) You bitch out and can't decide
This is what "hell" and "eternal damnation" really means.

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i dont want to exist. i want to go back to the womb, no thought, no complexity of idenity of individuality. just safety and comfort. blissful existence.

Berserk (1997) fascinated and horrified me. Something about the grotesque, medieval anime kept me intrigued, but there was also so much that broke my heart and stirred up scarring memories. Casca, the black female protagonist, is self-sufficient, hardcore, a natural born leader and master swordswoman. She is a powerful woman of color and her character is allowed to exist not only as this, but as a vulnerable woman in this unforgiving, and at times, vile universe. Sadly, it is now clear that vulnerability is her greatest strength and weakness. Over the entire course of the 1997 series and its subsequent reboots, Casca is constantly threatened with sexual violence and degradation. She has her position, as second in command in the Band of the Hawk, repeatedly challenged by half wits, before her final disabling. There is a thinly-veiled underlying thread of misogynoir running throughout Berserk. It shows us that a black woman might be the most formidable female mercenary, but she is still just a woman and her fate - her agency and sense of security - still dangles in the hands of insubordinate men.

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Here's the theme music for that decision:
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youtu.be/rqnzehVRQWA

that music makes me feel happy user

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Samefag again.
At the same time, #3 is the only "sane" option because ultimately neither #1 or #2 actually matter. Making these decisions is equal to not making them, which is equal to #3.

It takes equal courage to accept responsibility for the destruction of the whole universe and cessation of all being eternally as it does to live your life and accept responsibility not only for pleasure but also pain and suffering, if not for others in the very least for yourself.

In Buddhism the goal is Nirvana, the realization that it doesn't actually matter which of 1, 2 or 3 are chosen because the real option is #4 = Nirvana/Moksha/Freedom, and that we simply can't see it because we've deluded ourselves with a false dilemma.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

What is #4?

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In Taoism "the way" the focus is not on reaching for Moksha via such an abstract, abstruse or vague path but rather by observing the nature of the universe and of the path "the way"; in and of itself. In coming to understand the flow of destiny and time we can flow downstream like a flower petal via creek, lake, river, delta and out into the ocean only to realize we are another droplet falling on another leaf, striking another petal again and again. In studying such a path we may come to understand it and then reach Nirvana.

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bump for mommy

oregano

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>I mustn't run away I MUSN'T RUN AWAY
Actually it was about a Nip's honor. He wanted to be personally loved or else it's shameful.

He wants to be responsible by not taking the easy way out. The actual end of Evangelion allows those that don't want to take the easy way out to come back. He didn't ruin heaven for everyone or some bullshit.

Nip's would want to come back. It's a shame thing. Why they commit suicide due to shame is why they end it in that damned infamous song after the ending. But ending it is shameful too because you can't hate yourself there.

Because asuka is better.

but Rei is my mommy

based user

thank you for the wisdom

chill with the larping

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return to the womb. its much happier there user

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i just want my mom

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mommy i love you
please take me home

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