how do you all life with the fact that after we die, there is nothingness for eternity.
How do you all life with the fact that after we die, there is nothingness for eternity
Well at one point we were something. It might happen again.
Look into Einstein's work. You might be surprised.
I was nothing for 14 billion years and I never had a bad day
to me, it's preferable to the alternative. reality is too fucking scary and painful.
remember what it was like before you existed? no? well its like that.
There is no such thing as nothingness, because you can only experience things, not nothings. Because of this, you'll never die (depending on your definition of 'you'). Dying, then, is like sleeping, where you fall asleep at some random point that you can't determine, and suddenly you're aware at some different time than before.
what happens after heat death tho
If you magically become conscious out of the void once, it'll probably happen again. i mean "you" as in the experience of being inside a specific organism, you wouldn't remember your past life or have a similar personality
There is no "after" anything. Time is an illusion crafted by the mind. The universe is a static object, all parts of it are eternal and always present.
Heat death of the universe is just speculative based on our comprehension of physics, though currently very plausible. There's also the possibility of a big crunch restarting the cycle .
Seems comfy tbqh. I'm more scared of the pain associated with dying.
The resurrection
there is not nothing, we either burn in hell for eternity or we can live for eternity with our Lord and Savior
One bottle at a time.
Well maybe I can be buried with my treasures like the old pharaohs and then you will be jealous of all me in the afterlife
I actually do remember,
I was in a black tower with many layers, like platforms and there were groups of people on the platforms talking about me and when they would be heading out, some talked about their experiences too. The colors were black, grey, and the people on the platforms were dressed in white robes.
This is legit my earliest memory and I can still vividly remember it.
Im so detached from spiritual and social comfort Imagine if im going to heaven i would hate it can i just stop existing fuck
The real question is how do I life with the fact that I can return to the void any time I want if I could just sack up and kill myself
>there is nothingness
yes but you wouldn't have any awareness of this, it will be similar to how it was for us before we were born. Simply nothing, no point of view, no feeling, no experience.
you can subscribe to a religion if that will make you feel better about it
It's not gonna be that, OP
What does stealing the work of others and passing it off as your own have to do with the topic at hand?
Are y'all both ironically saying life...?
Who said it's for eternity?
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Take your meds, Parmenides.
i won't lie guys, thinking about how my life is finite and how i will eventually just stop existing really fucks me up. its the one thing were if i feel my thoughts wander there i have to cut it off and force myself to think about something else. It's been like this since i was a child and still the thinking about the oblivion of death never fails to send me into a stressed out panic mode
I've looked into the Eye of our Father, user, and what I've seen isn't something that medicine could ever erase.
well, your not alone.
was actually kinda worse when I believed in heaven. I mean, what the actual fuck am I gonna be doing for eternity? Wake up, do stuff, go to bed, for eternity? ETERNITY? NEVER ENDING??
freaks me out lads, if I think about it for more than about 40 seconds
t. Materialist who actually believes that he is his body
Top fucking kek. Dude youre pure awareness. Whether you're aware of it or not. Your true self is literally timeless and ageless.
It's true and strange that a little kid can't believe that kind of bullshit but a grown adult easily can.
I used care.
Now I dont.
You don't even know that for sure, nerd. Live in the moment.
Embrace the nothingness!
Why do you despise the void?
Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!
Feel the emptiness!
Return to nothing forever.
I think about "why am I me" sometimes
this question has perplexed me for years
why am I aware of myself and not someone else's self
is the self just a brain? fuck's sake the human brain is so complex to be able to self-reflect like this
when the brain stops working is that truly the end? it logically has to be because how could "you" perceive anything without a brain to process it
>why am I aware of myself and not someone else's self
the truth is that there is only one self, and your identity is an elaborate illusion.
>is the self just a brain?
no, the self is a structure. right now, it's represented by a brain, but it could be easily represented by anything (theoretically), like a computer, or a mathematical equation.
>when the brain stops working is that truly the end?
depends on how you define end, and also what you consider to be you
you're welcome
I feared it for some time, then I just got over it with time.
It just makes me appreciate every day a little bit more.
You're under the impression that your body is what generates your consciousness. That's not true, consciousness is infinite along with the universe, it does not die or "end" it simply changes form. When you die, you yourself will be dead, but your true awareness moves onto another body in another place. Don't believe me? Just look up all the people with past life experiences.
>You're under the impression that your body is what generates your consciousness. That's not true
fugging proofs?
>Just look up all the people with past life experiences.
this does not meet my standards for proofs. those people are liars and harlots
nobody knows whats coming next
im happy with whatevers next ad long as i get a loving wife
i dont think you know what counts as stealing
If there's only one self, then how come every self is different? And the fact that your identity affects your self? For example, there's certainly a difference between a self that is greedy and a self that is generous. Doesn't that make the selves different? And what kind of structure is the self? How does it work? Could you create the self in another place and my consciousness would transfer over there? And even if my self transfers, if my identity is different surely it wouldn't be me anymore? I would be experiencing a different body and brain. Even if my self is just the fact that I am experiencing this brain right now, it's the brain itself that provides something to experience, otherwise I wouldn't be anything.
knowing the random nature of the universe it dont think this is realistically possible but i think that if theres a big bang then it has to crunch back in on itself and we repeat our lives
they may not be the exact same lives but theyre another stream of conscious that we can experience
it's infinitely more disturbing that everyone we will ever know and see, especially our families will be reduced to corpses some day before we're ever ready to say goodbye
How is the universe random? Surely randomness is just a name for a lack of information? For example, if we knew every physical property of a coin as we flipped it, we could predict what side it landed on. Aren't random things random because we can't know and comprehend all the information that goes into what makes things happen? Otherwise, random things would happen because of no cause whatsoever, which doesn't make sense.
Be glad you even exist. Every one of your male ancestors reproduced for billions of years the chances of that happening are literally 1 in a billion
We dont. We turn to spirits
i didn't seem to mind it before I existed.
Sounds pretty comfy, that would be the better scenario, otherwise we might go to hell or have eternal boredom.
Why are you afraid of something you won't have to experience? Who knows maybe there is some form of afterlife in one way or another and even if there isn't just don't worry my dude
The concept of self will die long before the material remains decay and cycling the matter itself into biofuel. I can't imagine being scared of it at all even if I was atheist.
Honestly? I've never felt the need to contemplate existence, in the back of my head I know that there's something more out there for some of us, and I can't shake that feeling off. Perhaps this is genetic? Perhaps you can trick yourself into being religious?
That makes sense until we dont. We are energy at our core, or maybe a machine is better. We use energy constantly to survive, once we die, all the energy in us in all the forms it exists in, is returned to the earth. Unless there is a soul, what you proposed is impossible. As far as we know, all we are as an individual is the neurons in our brain. The moment those die, we die.
I thought that was just a proposal before we realized the expansion is speeding up.
Related but thanks speeding up, now 90% of any astroscientists looking to get attention make some bullshit paper abou5 dark energy curing anal cancer and it gets spread like wildfire.
Your religion literally can not fit anywhere within modern science shut the fuck up.
I dont care about what word fuckery you can pull to make it fit you retards always use the KJB which is so mistranslated its not even worth reading. Being any abrahamic religion is already retarded, thinking the KJB is a good bible shows you have no brain.
If your religion can not fit within science, it is by all definitions, false.
But keep telling yourself that your magic skyman loves everyone while telling everyone else if you sin once he lets you suffer forever. Retard.
You would have to be a complete idiot after all the facts are thrown in your face to just completely ignore the possibility of reincarnation. I won't explain it, but the fact time and time vs. relativity exist is a pretty good example. Oh, and we're here after all, which is also proof nothing cannot physically exist. So after the universe dies of heat death and fizzles out after stretching and expanding to its limits, we will inevitably reset and do this all over again. It's the only thing physics can physically handle at that point with the vast amounts of energy closing in on a smaller and smaller point until there is nothing. Matter cannot be compressed into such a small area, especially an entire universe of matter. It's probably the entire idea that there's matter and anti matter. One protects our realm of reality while the other holds it into place like a stage curtain without it moving. Then life is the act itself. We are living proof something HAS TO come from nothing. To think there is nothing after death is just illogical and silly at this point. We're all made of energy, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. We will be reborn in a second because time cannot be measured in death. What you are witnessing is a perfect system set in place by a somewhat merciful god that also preaches free will, as does the universe around us.
Do you even understand heat death?
There wouldnt be nothing, thats not what it would be at all. Its everything reaching entropy. The decay to entropy is the thing that supports life. The sun decaying to entropy is what sunlight is.
Theres also the whole part of it in which almost if not completely everything would be asborbed by black holes which then turn all that energy and mass into hawking radiation.
Dont talk about things you dont understand here kiddo, thats reddit or twitters thing
The problem of infinite recurrence is that it's just as horrific as annihilation, if not even moreso.
sorry i wanted to join in on your super serious mid life crisis meme discussion, if you want to sit alone in your own thread and ramble to yourself be my guest. that's what you seem to be going for here anyhow. hows living alone working out for you? because i can see with that attitude and criticism you could easily push out everyone you cared for in life. shame, instead of ridiculing others you should maybe choose how to spend your time here educating them instead. who knows, you definitely sound smarter than me. maybe you'd be a good physics or history professor? fuck if i know, but dont make me feel like a piece of shit because i just want to join in on a dope conversation, like fuck me lad lol. most people wouldn't even step to these topics let alone talk about them so be grateful of the people who choose to engage you in these discussions. even if you feel those others are wrong. there is education to be learned on both sides of the spectrum.
>I won't explain it
>tries to explain in
ahahahahahahah, get out cunt.
Life is a dream. You never die, you just awaken from dream that is life.
Life is cyclical, if you can perceive yourself now, you will perceive yourself again.
As the eons passed without you being aware, so they will pass again until another body will accomodate your perception of self
Yes, there is no real "random". Welcome to determinism
We can't ever possibly know what happens after death. Nothingness for eternity is the most logical conclusion but I find that more comforting than scary. Who the hell would want to exist forever? Especially being the wretched creatures that we are.
how are you even sure there was anything to be lost to begin with. this is nothingness.
way more horrific IMO. most of my life I have taken comfort in knowing that one day I'll be free from this horrible world but now I'm questioning that