If one of the biggest signifier of male happiness is whether or not he's in love...

Why get your panties in a knot over the actions of men you don't care about?

Why would anyone that isn't religious get married?

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>Get to know people's personalities before you get to know their privates
Say's the robot who judges people almost exclusively on their looks (aka on a purely sexual basis). I've noticed this interesting thing with you lot, you all say you want a virgin but.... extremely good looking non-virgins get a free pass, bonus points if she's very young. A frumpy virgin on the other hand will get some begrudging "Ehhh, are you going to loose weight and suck my dick?". So much hypocrisy and virtue signalling on the metaphorical toilet website of the internet, absurd.

Upset that they won't provide for her whrn
Shes worn out and ready tk settlr dow n

You're actually the one upset about having a lack of mating options, projecting user.

That pic is SOOO cute~!!!

Thanks user, cute things have been highjacked by degenerates globally and we have to fight to get the kawaii back.

>why are modern males so against marriage?
So many newfags on this board. Maybe the women hate threads should come back so you can get educated.

its more to do with the fact the court system in western countries gives every reason for the woman to leave and take the kids (see brendan frasier's alimony).
modern marriage is a skinwalker version of what it was in the past. i guess that makes me a facsimilliphobe.

Marriage is no longer guaranteed permanent and can ruin your life if it falls apart.

Did you just completely make up something I never said? I don't just judge people exclusively on their looks and never implied as such. I do however, judge people on their skills. If there's a big tiddie goth gf who can't cook, clean, hold a conversation, have a career, or do any tangible task, I want nothing to do with her, because I don't believe in giving women free rides in life just for being attractive.

That being said, everyone has their limit. Every single living human bean has their limit. You can be really plain looking and just not conventionally attractive, and that's fine. But if you are a fucking shebeast of mammoth proportions, absofuckinglutely not.

But this goes both ways, most modern men are degenerate porn addicts. No one gets their traditional fantasy. Everyone looses. Do you seriously think females can compete with modern beauty standards? Look at pictures of females historically and then compare it to a modern porn star or hentai content. You get upset woman want a man with a job (lol okay) but then refuse to see the insane standards men actually have that are modern phenomena (like for example shaved pubes, very recent but see how it's completely normal now, that's a good example about how sexuality has changed a lot and very fast purely due to media).

Being a misogynist asshole is the equivalent of being a 500lb hambeast with a beard in female terms, in relation to attraction, take that as you will. Go bash some more females online! You're a strong, independent male who don't need no slut! You go goy! I mean boy, heh, pay your taxes bud.

That's cool and all, but why the fuck do we need as guys need to punished for committing by potentially losing half our assets, access to house and access to children? Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Our standards for women have also tanked like crazy because we realize the unicorn virgin to wife up is a near impossibility these days, and those who won't stoop low enough simply turn to fucking roasties to get their fix. Ironically, women have all the power to change this, yet won't and give up most of their worth like its nothing.

>like for example shaved pubes
That's not exactly a high standard. It's really easy to shave once a week or so.

I wouldn't say most modern men are porn addicts, but I will say that most modern men have and do masturbate to porn. That being said, men have this insane skill that women tend to lack; that skill being separating reality from fantasy.

While, yes, your average man would leer at (insert hot porn actress here), they would still fuck the solid 5.5 next door. I don't think clean shaven is the expectation, but a full beard on your crotch might be a dealbreaker for oral, and that applies to both sexes. Also, 0 (like actually 0) people are looking at hentai then trying to find a woman that meets those exact specifications. People who look at hentai to that extent literally want nothing to do with actual 3D women, hence the phrase "3DPD".

only beneficial for women and some women are hoes and will fuck you over for money so better be safe than sorry

Well why are woman getting divorced? They wouldn't walk away from a happy marraige obviously. Is it possible their husband is a passive aggressive, porn addicted cunt who started treated her differently when she got on the wrong side of 30? I don't know user, maybe you're all right, maybe men are fucking perfect saints and woman are evil devils. I'm sure there's some developmental blocks here, with the whole black and white views on life, the strong bias in everything and refusal to see any other points of view (even in the face of actual factual evidence) and also to simply refuse to take any fucking responsibility and instead blame everyone else. Eh, society is fucked though so I guess I'd say that would be a better place to aim the blame but you do you.

The difference is my life doesn't revolve around the approval of women because I honestly don't care what they think. I don't seek them out and I'm sure they have no interest in me either. Which, interestingly enough, has been the single greatest attitude shift I've ever had now that I live purely and exclusively for my own enjoyment.

What I've learned, however, is that women absofuckinglutely hate when you are in no way seeking their approval and show them no attention whatsoever. I am literally taking myself out of the "race", and furthermore the genepool, as I don't seek relationships or even sex. Yet, "communities" of men like mine are treated like we are literally Satan and we've committed the worst crime imaginable, even though we're not going around throwing acid on women who aren't wearing headcarpet. We're not incels who can't get laid but are seeking to get laid, we're just deciding to be exclusively selfish and pamper ourselves only.

Makes you think.

>marriage=love
Do want to know how I know you're a girl?
Quit being a retard. Men don't want marriage because there's no point in getting stuck with some bitch who'll leave you anyway. Best way to live is to be single and fuck and cheat on every girl you get with until you eventually find one who wants to be loyal, but they're usually used up whores. You see the problem? That's reality and no one wants that because it fucking sucks dick. They want a nice pure virgin girl who's a good person and incredibly loyal but they can't get that so they just ignore reality all together and they're completely right to do so. You're probably gonna say "lol but only virgin, incel, beta, etc. Ignore reality not Chad's!" but yes "Chad's" can ignore reality too or they have the finances to deal with all the shit that reality has
I am strictly 2D because anime women act more like how real women should act than how real women actually act. I've been approached for sex but I've said no everytime

it does cut both ways. as a woman literally all you have to do is be young, clean, not fat, and low-mileage. if you want to reject beauty standards that's fine, there will still be someone out there who *will* want to fuck you, it just might not be the one you want. you get out what you put in.
I cant tell you how many young women i know who just sit on their phones drinking wine in their filthy, fur-coated apartments, trash overflowing from the can, not capable of lifting a damn finger to help themselves. and yet, they still expect to bag a high-flying businessman. they consider themselves liberated from cooking and cleaning and as a result they live in squalor. no one wants to marry these sad women, especially not past 25.

>Well why are woman getting divorced?
Could literally be anything. Personally I don't think giving them a financial reason on top of an emotional reason to help the situation, but
>but you do you
>maybe men are fucking perfect saints
Those are your words, not mine. It takes two to tango, and I'm saying you chicks have agency in this just as much as men do. Don't date degenerates, select men who display value long term and have women and men alike shame these demonic brats. But likewise, shame any girl who's degenerate enough to fuck ten guys before marriage like its nothing, cheats or is a complete cunt to her man.
Eventually, there are those who fight the system, those who play the game and those who get played by the game. Men who get tired of getting played either learn to play the game (fuck roasties and don't care for marriage) or fight the system (tradcons, MGTOW, you name it). Women who get played are roasties or girls who get abused, women who play the game are Stacys divorce-raping their men at the first sign of something she doesn't like, and women who fight the system preserve themselves. Don't hate the players, hate the game.
>society is fucked though so I guess I'd say that would be a better place to aim the blame
And that's exactly my point. You're alright user, now chill out and don't twist words. It's your choice who you end up being, you prove them wrong by finding someone to stick with or not playing the game at all.

i actually disagree, you can date multiple people, even at the same time, while still seeking a monogamous, long-term relationship. it's called hedging your bets. and dating =! fucking. so unless you're going steady with someone there's no reason not to "date around."

The number 1 leading cause of divorce is commitment, or rather, married couples just "falling out of love". This doesn't mean any sort of foul play was involved. The second is infidelity though, and the third is too much conflict and arguing.

That being said, women initiate the vast majority of divorces. Rate of infidelity increases significantly as couples age, with women cheating more at early ages (19-29), and men cheating more at late ages (60-80 how offputting, grandpa).

The reality of the situation is that yes, women absolutely 100% lose value as they age. A 40 year old woman is worthless in the dating market. However, those early ages(19-29) are when women ride the cock carousel like mad, then commit suicide when nobody wants to touch them in their 30s. Men, however, gain value as they age; specifically financial value as they get further in their careers.

Also, yes, women do absofuckinglutely walk away from completely happy marriages and say completely retarded shit like "I wanted to experiment more before settling down" when asked why the fuck they'd do that.

This. You want to claim me? Then tell me to be exclusive and why. I'm the price here, you show me you want to buy it. Until then I date whoever I want, no half-hearted things.

>You're alright user
Wow, that's the first time someone on that board has said that haha.

It seems pretty hypocritical to say "woman fuck over men" and so choose to actively fuck over woman but this is the cancerous modern gender politics, with feminists and MGTOW and no one having any children, so the powers to be import replacement immigrants. Religious people still have kids, and probably don't get divorced nearly as much.

>even at the same time

Nope. Stop. Kill yourself. Like actually commit suicide right now. Being completely serious. You're using people as tools. You're not seeking love. How the fuck can you claim to be seeking a monogamous relationship while literally cheating on multiple people without them knowing?

I repeat, completely seriously, commit suicide right now, today.

You are also a subhuman and probably a sameposter. Follow directions above. Hilariously, people who have viewpoints like yours are usually the ones who bring literally nothing to the relationship but their pelvis. Fortunately, it literally never ends well for you people and thank God for that. But why wait? Kill yourself today.

It's offputting, but that is modern dating. I absolutely couldn't take someone seriously who was still swiping on Tinder, but that's what people do, they keep their options open and are forever on a thirst-quest.

Of course its hypocritical but what do you realistically expect? Men want sex and companionship, if they can't get it by being nice, then they do something that is, well, not-nice. It's normal human biologically to alter the ways you behave when you can't get what you want the way you act currently, whether that be hypocritical or not. No one's going to care about being "the bigger man" when their needs aren't met. If women can't get what they want being nice, they'd do the same, which is what happens when a girl initiates a divorce with an abusive guy she was nice to for most of her life. That's why realistically, the only thing you can do is show strength and resolve to fight the system and do what those religious people do, partner up and be virtuous and don't give a fuck about society, showing you have a much better time by not being a complete degenerate, and that goes for both men and women. But that only works if we acknowledge both genders have agency in this.

>Wow, that's the first time someone on that board has said that haha.
The fact no one said it before is also part of the problem, but glad to make your day a little

Awww, nice posting. I will sleep easy tonight, user.

Chill out for a moment. The only reason we spread our eggs is because all our baskets are swiped way too easily these days and suffering oneitis is actually actively hurting us on the dating market. On the opposite side, if we find a girl that's worth doing everything for, -you- turn into the price, and we decided to pick you out of multiple girls. Dating multiple prospects is normal and has always been normal, dating takes time and you also need time to recover from a date to think things over, and our lifetimes are finite. This isn't talking about fucking multiple girls and getting them overinvested only to dump 2 of them, we're talking about exploring multiple options to figure out what fits best without wasting too much time and ruining your future dating prospects. Sorry to say, but dating multiple people as a guy is a reaction to the flakiness of today's dating market, and some indeed go further than that by getting their dicks wet and subsequently leaving, but I'm not planning to waste more of my time than necessary if I can be more efficient without hurting the girl in question.

How about you fucking only date people you've gotten to know first? Like actually gotten to know? What it sounds like is you're just swiping right to multiples girls on Tinder and setting up multiple fucking outings. No, that's not "normal" and that has never been "normal". Go to an event or hobby or something that you fucking like (or just be in any college/high school ever), meet a girl. Become friends. Get to know her. Begin dating once you know you're at least socially compatible.

What the fuck is actually wrong with you people? Talk to each of these girls you're talking to and tell them you're just "shopping". Like literally, tell each one of these girls they're #2, 3, 4, 5, and so on. See how they respond. When you finally do land on one to invest everything else in, pat them on the back and tell them that out of three girls you were talking to at the same time; you chose them. Tell me if they're crushed by someone they thought they were in love with using them like some sort of auction, or if they say "lol user you were one of fifteen guys too". Then, if they do say that, see if you feel the same.

No, fuck you, and go fucking die. Also, you're a fucking chad so why are you even on this board?

>Also, you're a fucking chad
Thanks but I'm not, I just value my time and have fallen for the oneitis trap too many times turning me into a complete simp who overinvests in the single girl I see as a prospect.
Look, whether you like it or not, most dates start as friends. You can have multiple friends, not? You make the dates fun to not waste time, and scope out the prospects because ultimately, you'd also like to know if they are able to be more than just female friends. If it works out, you keep your other prospects on friend level, and get serious with the one friend.
The issue is, in this day and age, especially online dating, women and men are all playing each other and the only way you get to know each other is basically being fake friends and once you become friends with them, you friendzone yourself because ultimately, that's not what they are there for. You wouldn't use online dating or anything like that if she was because she'd already be in your social circle in the first place. The dynamics of online dating and social circle dating are different, online dating is more like how arranged marriages worked where you have to see people at the same time to get going because you'd waste way too much time and don't have social circles to meet in frequently, as well as the nature of the goal rushing people to get it over and done with quickly. Social circle dating, sure, you see each other plenty and there's probably no rush since you have an alternative hobby, so just go with the flow. And for what it's worth, yes, I do agree social circle dating is better. And anyone worth investing into, you'll generally know first date anyway so this "simultaneous dating" is only reserved for flakes who can't make their damn mind up and need to learn not to wait and open their damn mouth to show they want to move somewhere. It's a reaction to flakiness, don't be a flake, and you won't get guys that date simultaneously unless they are complete scumbags.

It comes down to this:

If you introduce each of these girls as : "Girlfriend"; commit sudoku.

If you introduce each of these girls as : "(Their name), also we don't kiss or fuck or think we're dating lol"; then that's some degree of courtship and that's normal.

If either party is walking into it with the thought that it's a living, breathing, romantic relationship, the record needs to be set straight immediately. Here's where the term "take it slow" comes from. If the record isn't set straight because you're like "Maybe, only if these other girls don't work out", you need to seek out medically assisted suicide in Canada.

Here's the thing: with that sort of mindset, where does it end? You're leading on (because they think you're a serious thing) 9 girls, then 8 of them don't get a red rose, so you're left with just one. But then...then you think to yourself, "wait, wait...what if I do this again and see if there's someone even better than this season's winner? I could end up with the perfect woman! I'm a genius!". Then, because you're a sociopath that doesn't form attachments to even the girls who ultimately end up "winning", you just go and cheat on them anyway.

tl;dr: Do you think you're actually capable of the emotion "love" or are you just a slut?

Also, if they don't know they're one of many while harboring very clear romantic interest that you haven't shut down, it's cheating. It just is. You're cheating. How close are you to Canada?

And this is where I'm gonna stop you running rampant on your assumptions.
>If you introduce each of these girls as: (Their name)
Is what I'm going for.
>If either party is walking into it with the thought that it's a living, breathing, romantic relationship, the record needs to be set straight immediately.
Yes, correct. No fucking about misleading people.
>with that sort of mindset, where does it end?
It ends when you settle, just like how when you sampled every possibility at a shop, you buy the thing you like the most and stick with your choice. And that's a bit too materialistic for my taste admittedly, but that's the best way I could think of to put it. And when you settle, you agree to both invest in the relationship and do your best.
>what if I do this again and see if there's someone even better than this season's winner?
Is scumbag behavior and means you jumped the gun on your relationship when instead you should've told all of them "sorry, you're not it" and move on.
>Also, if they don't know they're one of many while harboring very clear romantic interest that you haven't shut down, it's cheating. It just is.
Sorry, I can't read their minds, and unfortunately they aren't always fair. I can ask them how they feel about me and act responsibly accordingly, but that's the extent of my powers. At that point, they need to be open themselves about what they want, and once they do, see second answer.
>Do you think you're actually capable of the emotion "love" or are you just a slut?
Who knows at this point, sometimes I wonder if I can do either
>How close are you to Canada?
Close enough for you if you're a single tradcon chick, otherwise I'm very far away.

>oneitis

I feel like you're using that wrong in this context. Oneitis as I understand it is when you're looking at someone you're not even romantically involved with or doesn't see you "that way" as the one person you absolutely must marry and propagate the species with above all others, having no flaws whatsoever and no other people existing in your mind. The key point being, you're not even in a relationship.

I feel like it's perfectly normal to see the person you're actually dating as like, marriage material. Unless you literally worship them, which is bad.

I'm just going to squint and nod then. I don't fully understand it but it doesn't appear to be being in multiple romantic relationships at once(cheating), assuming you're being honest. Carry on, warden.

>I feel like you're using that wrong in this context.
Read again, I specifically said "prospect". A prospect is someone you aren't romantically involved in. Not as a marriage prospect, but a prospect for romance. And too bad for me, kind-hearted people easily (over)invest into people they care about, when most the dating world prefers sociopaths for some bizarre, dark-science reason.

nah youre just a possessive pervert who thinks because i go out with someone im going to be fingerbanging chicks in the back of my car when the reality is we simply go out for cokes or ice cream and get to know each other... unless its explicitly stated that we are in an exclusive bf/gf relationship at which point you knock it off.
this is completely normal and has been for decades. i really dont need to tell you to kill yourself because youll wither and die alone regardless.

>a mind-reading incel
wew sounds like porn-addled projection to me buddy.

>so against marriage
because of draconian divorce, child support, and alimony laws. my dad lost a house in a divorce. he lost his retirement vehicle. he also had to fight a year long court battle to avoid paying child support which involved convincing the judge my mom was a psycho bitch. men have everything to lose (literally!) and women have everything to gain. pump and dump is the only rational answer

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