Politics is such a fucking cancer

The problem is obvious. If only there were a way to fix it for good. Some sort of final solution to the issue.

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heavy industry and unregulated capitalism is the problem

Thats exactly what it is. People say capitalism itself is the problem but its just fuckall unregulated. People say they want they rich to pay more in taxes but out of their actual money they pay alot, people see someones worth as what they have disposable. The people who need to pay money are the companies who lobby and lie to avoid taxes.
Whoevet made that meme clearly isnt american because the colors are wrong. The parties switched at some point but also didnt(?) Its confusing but really whole left is red and right is blue in most of the world its the opposite in burgerland, its why the redpill meme only works there.

I thought the colors being wrong was intentional and just part of the meme.

Well yeah, that. I was referring to the one event in American history that unironically fucked the whole world over, that being Woodrow Wilson's election in 1912. I can elaborate why if need be, but I want to keep my paragraphs to a minimum.

I will read if you elaborate

>The human being created civilization not because of willingness but of a need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning.

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Sure thing. Stick with me here.
As I elaborated before, politics (in the US at least) were a lot more regulatory of the corporate sphere and less intrusive of the lives of the average citizen all those years ago. On a smaller note, race relations were a lot better than they were in the years following (and arguably even today). A lot of this was spearheaded by Theodore Roosevelt, and perpetuated by William Howard Taft. Wilson basically undid a lot of this. He didn't really pursue trustbusting as Roosevelt and Taft had done, and with it out of the public eye, those corporate powers began to take root and eventually grow into the corporatocracy we have now. So that's part of America's problem.
Oh, and Wilson also fucked over race relations, segregating the federal government and the military again, as well as helping the second klan rise up.
For the world, it comes down to one event, the First World War. Wilson's anti-war policy turned out for the worst because the allied powers could have used American help on the western front. If we had entered the war earlier, when the Lusitania was sunk (something Roosevelt wanted to do, and he actually called Wilson a coward for not declaring war then and there), the Russian provisional government would have likely held up, as the Schlieffen Plan would have failed with the additional pressure on the western front. The war would essentially be over much sooner.
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As a result of this, communism would never have taken hold of Russia, and without that looming menace, fascism would never have risen to combat it either.
Roosevelt wouldn't have allowed Britain and France to fuck over the Middle East by taking Iraq and Syria for themselves instead of giving it to the Hashemites (much less extremist muslims). That's another story in and of itself, really. I can elaborate with this as well if you're up for it, it should be a shorter story than this.
Wilson's unwillingness to go to war stemmed from his belief that America was the shining town on a hill for the world to look at for guidance. When Wilson finally did go to war and ceased criticizing all parties involved, he said the reason was to defend democracy worldwide. Basically the same excuse the US uses every time it invades a country for Israel or the Saudis.
So yeah, Wilson fucked up a lot. Oh, and he indirectly caused the Yugoslav wars too, he restructured the borders of that area post-war.
The cherry on top is that Wilson only won because the republican vote was split. Roosevelt lost the nomination by a single vote, and because he stopped trusting Taft, formed a third party and ran as an independent. If Roosevelt was nominated, just let Taft have it, or somehow won with the Bull Moose party, the world would be in much better shape. I don't really know how Taft would fare under such times or change, given that he wasn't known for being very politically adept, but he surely wouldn't have fucked up as badly as Wilson did. I'm certain that Roosevelt would have been able to handle these issues as they came.

Elaborate further this is getting deep

On the Hashemites? Oh boy, get ready. This one decision fucked over the entire Middle East and made it how it is today.
So, at the time of the First World War, the Hashemites were in control of Mecca. The king of the Hashemites was Hussein Bin Ali, the Sharif of Mecca.
The king pledged his support to the allied cause to fight the Ottoman Empire, on the condition that their lands be given to him so he could create a greater Arab state for his people. This would have encompassed modern day Turkey and the region that is now Syria and Iraq.
The problem is, the allies fucked him over in the proceedings. When the war was over, they revealed that they weren't actually going to give him anything and just keep the land for themselves. France got Syria and Britain got Iraq and Jordan IIRC. This has, to this day, fucked over the whole region, because the borders were drawn according to each nation's investments in the region. People who want to be together are separated, and people who want to kill each other are together. Russia had claimed Turkey, but they ceased to exist by the end of the war, so Turkey became Turkey as it is today. The Hashemites were never consulted on any of this, don't be silly.
As a result of this betrayal, the Hashemites lost to a new power rising on the Arabian peninsula, the House of Saud. They needed that land for the manpower and resources it held, as they were already losing territory.
This is important because the Hashemites were fairly moderate and conservative. They weren't nearly as radical and weren't jihadists in any way. The House or Saud, however, was very extremist. They were Wahhabists, an ultra-extremist, death to America tier belief, and their victory led to Wahhabism being spread across the Islamic world, which is why they now hold medieval-tier beliefs as opposed to the almost modern views of the Hashemites.
If the House or Saud sounds familiar, you'd know them today as Saudi Arabia.

What I'm saying is that this is also a fault of Wilson's. He allowed this to happen as long as Britain and France weren't blatantly exploiting the region. Roosevelt was a staunch anti-imperialist, as shown with his entire Big Stick policy, and wouldn't have let such a thing fly at the negotiating table. On a side note, Germany likely would've had a lighter sentence after the war under Roosevelt's watch as well. The Weimar autism probably wouldn't have happened.

All of this is pretty intriguing. Where did you find this information?

everything that has anything to do with more than 1 person is technically politics

i hate a lot of modern politics because it's surface level bullshit appealing to peoples emotions, not their real ones - the ones they show on the surface.

an example of surface level emotion:
>ugly fat af girl but u wouldnt call her blatantly ugly around a group of people if someone asked how you thought she looked. So you say something that pleases people on the surface-level even though most likely everyone thinks she is ugly as fuck.

also democratically voting for a President the most powerful position is inherently bad because you have to please the majority to climb ranks and the majority is throughout history dumb & easily manipulated especially in larger numbers.

voting should only be for members for parliament/congressmen and they in turn should elect their leader

A few YouTube channels and some research of my own.
While I'm on the subject, I could go over how communism being allowed a foothold changed the entire 20th century for the worst as well. Another fairly unlikely event in China is the kicker, which wouldn't have happened at all if world war 2 hadn't happened (world war 1 set the pieces in place with how it turned out, really).

user, all of this is very interesting. I'm certainly willing to read more of whatever you post and plan on saving it to look further into it as I'm not as historically educated as I'd like to be.
Also curious on what you think of Roosevelt's presidency in general if you don't mind.

I really like your takes on this "hypothetical history."

Thank you. I honestly hold great respect for both Roosevelt and his politics, which I greatly associate myself with. I could go more in depth as to what that was if you wish. I like Taft as well, to a lesser extent. Without Roosevelt's work, I can say the world we live in now would be a lot darker. At least we still have clean food and medicine, even if much other good has been forgotten over the years. He really deserved a third term.
If I can, I'd like to discuss China. Another perfect storm had to occur as it did in Russia. World war 2 and the retardation of the nationalist government provided that. The communists winning out in the civil war was actually the least likely result, as they had been surrounded. They made a decision to break through the weakest line of the nationalists and head into the mountains to the far west. During this trip, they lost a good portion of their forces, including their leader. This is when Mao took over, filling the void.
During world war 2, the Japanese invasion provided them with an opportunity. The nationalists did some pants on head retarded stuff in response to Japan's incursions, including flooding one of their own cities and abandoning their own capital without a fight. This would have occurred with or without the communist insurgency, but it helped them along.
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You probably know the story from there. 50 million starved making steel in their back yards, countless Chinese historical artifacts and records destroyed, what have you. That's not as important as the impact on the rest of the world. You see, China being communist paved the way for other nations to become or remain communist as well. If China wasn't communist, then we could have crossed the 38th parallel in Korea without being pushed back, and we could have invaded North Vietnam without risk of China stepping in. They might have even helped out a little.
I find this somewhat intriguing because modern China would probably have turned out the same regardless of who won the civil war. China has always been authoritarian, and it's pretty much shifted back to how it always has been with its conversion to a more capitalistic system. The real impact was felt abroad.
On a smaller note, but more related to my original topic of the world being the darkest timeline, the Cold War is what pushed a lot of what we know as the west together (mainly to fight communism), with a somewhat collective identity. This is what the Wahhabists largely focus upon, and it's why it affects all of us to some extent.
I could also go into how we armed them for the coming conflicts of the 21st century, but that's fairly known. Are you well versed in the Soviet-Afghan war?
Thanks. I try not to speculate too much, it's just going off of the likely outcomes and what each person might do or had a precedent for doing (or outright said they would do, like Roosevelt).

The parties did not switch, that's a myth every educated person knows isn't true.

>Are you well versed in the Soviet-Afghan war?
Hardly. Was the U.S. opposition to the Soviets at that time comparable to western politics that led to the Vietnam war?

Adding on, comparable to this same kind of idea you mentioned earlier regarding Wilson?
>When Wilson finally did go to war and ceased criticizing all parties involved, he said the reason was to defend democracy worldwide.

It was actually fairly similar to Vietnam, but with the roles reversed. Many call it Russia's Vietnam.
In the Vietnam War, China, and to a lesser extent Russia, were giving weapons to the viet cong. In Afghanistan, the US supplied weapons to the Mujahideen, rebels fighting against the Soviets. These weapons had to be untraceable to the US, so it was mostly Chinese and Soviet guns. I don't remember how they were all acquired, but it's not very important.
Another important thing about Vietnam is that after the US pulled out, China tried to invade Vietnam themselves. They failed and were pushed out, though to this day they claim victory by moving the goalposts after the fact. Something similar happened with the Mujahideen. I'll give you a hint, there was a prominent fighter among the Mujahideen who was hailed as an anti-communist hero in western newspapers. His name was Osama Bin Laden.
Similar occurred with ISIS, we armed rebels to kill Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, and they turned on us. That's why a lot of them have US equipment, we didn't need to hide our involvement this time. At least, we didn't think we had to, it seems.
You mean for the Soviet Union, or am I misunderstanding? The Soviets never really tried to give the impression of being something they weren't, I will give them that. During their war in Afghanistan, any anti-war protesters were drafted on the spot. They said their imperialism was for the sake of spreading communism across the globe, and to an extent they were right about that. They were often in competition with China, a lot of communist nations were at odds with one another. On some occasions they'd prefer to side with us over the Chinese.

>You mean for the Soviet Union, or am I misunderstanding?
I mean for the States, like that whole "world police" meme.
That aside, China was supplying the Viet Cong with weapons, the U.S., and then invaded? What was the motivation behind all that? Assuming selling weapons to any buyers for profit, weakening Vietnam, then invading after we pulled out for imperialistic purposes?

Political people are annoying.

If you don't like talking about politics then you mustn't talk much. Everything is political you're just too underage to realize it

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This is your brain on retardation

>Everything is political
That's only true if you're low IQ and only hang out with other low IQ people.

>.t an actual retard
nobody likes you in your life for a reason

>everything is political
However true you consider that to be, me and a friend can discuss morrowind without it turning into an argument on whether or not the holodomor is justifiable.
Everything has political roots, but talking about it is whats annoying.
I can see the political aspect of the skyrim civil war questline. Does that have to devolve into me arguing with a friend about trump? No.
Things have politics in them, people who talk about those political things are annoying.
Nothing is ever gonna change significantly and im okay with that. The world leaders will do just enought to keep everything running smooth and it'll always be that way, people who care excessively about politics are usually losers who are either moralfags, retards, or join extremists to blame everything on one group and act perfect while finding some social interaction they so desperately crave.
I dont even get why people care so much. We live once and you wanna spend an hour every day online arguing that the USSR or the Third Reich would've fixed everything, argue how anyone who thinks differently should be killed, argue about this argue about that
Its fucking exhausting even thinking about it. Politics are shit, overly political people are annoying and more often than not just slimy shitbags in general regardless of any orientation, and are annoying cunts who force everything to be political to talk about their shit beliefs because "bro mutualism will work" or "bro it wasnt real communism" or "woah liberals and jews are everything wrong with the world" or "woah statist cucks need to die so we can have ancapistan already"
Its stupid.

she looks like a tranny with aids dude

>I mean for the States, like that whole "world police" meme.
Oh. Well, Wilson is where that comes from. Wilsonian policy birthed the world police meme.
>What was the motivation behind all that?
Pretty much just imperialism. They didn't want the west to influence Vietnam, China wanted it. Back then, imperialism was done under the premise of spreading ideology. It's still done today really.

Marry me, OP. I'll even ignore your shit grammar.