Unironically referring to loli/shota as "drawn CP"

>green texting on facebook
Cringe

kill yourself tripfag
literally nobody cares about your opinion

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Its wierd when you think about it . Its a victimless crime, if you want to call it that . No one is getting hurt . If anything the statistics show that having Access to loli and sex dolls keeps these ppl away from real life kids

>Its art
Bingo

>children

oregano

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>victimless "crime"

>tfw i lost my Jow Forums moderation gig cuz of this topic

It's just a drawing.

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>
Could legalizing pornography legal lead to lower rates of sex crimes? A new study tackles this controversial question. Results from the Czech Republic showed that rape and other sex crimes have not increased following the legalization and wide availability of pornography. In addition, the study finds that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible.
sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm
>Evidence Mounts: More Porn, LESS Sexual Assault
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault

someone tell me what happened with this UN thing?

i don't interact with children so it's not like putting me on a registry would change that, though it would make it much more difficult for me to find a job probably.

It definitely is drawn CP, anyone who argues against that is a closet pedo.

Action movies are just simulated killing, anyone who argues otherwise is a closet murderer.

not that dude but
Its not at the same level, its just a fantasy- that a hero- is trying to solve a dilema or becoming the "hero", by killing those the bad ones bringing some kind of justice, which is good and relatable. My fav movie is Die hard, you are just amazed how smart and good he is.

Your argument is essentially that depictions of violence are alright because you can rationalize it better for your own conscience.

>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JERK OFF TO DRAWINGS THATS LITERALLY RAPE SAVE THE DRAAAAAAAAWWWWWINGSSSSS

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CP isn't banned because "it's gross," it's banned because it hurts the kids involved. If there are no actual children being harmed, then the entire argument falls apart and it became a case of trying to ban things you don't like.

I'm not personally into lolis/shotas. But I'm not personally into scat, vore, yiffing, and all sorts of other weird shit but that doesn't mean I'm howling from the rooftops demanding that they be purged.

>> imagine getting triggered by lines

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>people defending being atracted to children
>people defending potential molesters/child rapists
baka

>it's banned because it hurts the kids involved
There are things that qualify as CP despite not involving any harm. The biggest example being children taking pictures of themselves. Also
>it's banned because it hurts the kids involved
Why is it legal to buy shoes that were created through child cruelty? Is the law just racist?

But killing for a superior idea like justice is better than killing for the own sake of killing.
Theres only evil in lolicon

>There are things that qualify as CP despite not involving any harm. The biggest example being children taking pictures of themselves.
That's banned because it's hard to tell whether the kid took a lewd picture of themselves out of their own free will, or if they were forced to take sexual pictures of themselves by adults.

Who benefits from it being illegal to spread around photographic or video evidence of a person who might be getting abused?

>VIOLENT VIDYA GAMES TURN PPL INTO KILLERS TOO BAN EVERYTHING

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So horror movies and slasher flicks should be banned right? Since the killing is unjust?

Not going too deep into it but context also helps.In movies when there is killing it is either bad guys getting killed or bad guys doing the killings and in the latter often punished.While in most Loli/Shota works the one fucking is put into a positive light without no punishment

No. It's illegal because it's gross. If I go to some gore site and watch a mexican's face getting ripped off by the cartel, am I revictimising that mexican? am I supporting the cartel?

It's illegal because it's gross and there'd be more pedos around if it wasn't illegal.

>in most Loli/Shota works the one fucking is put into a positive light without no punishment
Yeah, all those doujins about fat ugly rapists sure do put lolicons into a positive light.
>It's illegal because it's gross and there'd be more pedos around if it wasn't illegal.
What kind of fucked logic is that? If exposing people to something can make them like it, we better made it illegal to depict violence in media.

What you're describing are thought crimes. It's OK to depict a character committing murder if they're doing it for an "acceptable" reason as you interpret it. It's just a story. Nobody was actually murdered. An idea was expressed on film or in song or in the pages of a story or on a canvas. You may not like loli or shota, but there's no evidence that they cause the abuse of real, flesh and blood children.

If CP was made legal tomorrow 80% of Jow Forums would be on pornhub the next day for the whole day. There's a LOT of pedos in this world man, but most are afraid of the consequences of downloading CP. I'd say a good half the male population would bang a prepubescent chick, or at least get hard to one.

>imagine getting trigged by certain arrangements of atoms

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But what does that have to do with my post?

>If exposing people to something can make them like it
I'm pointing out that it's ridiculous to assume there wouldn't be more pedos and more CP if CP wasn't illegal. That's the whole purpose of it being illegal.

How is that any different than saying violent video games will create violent people?

because it's an entirely different subject. if you watch porn you're more likely to say "damn I wish that was me". violent video games beget more violent video games, not violence. CP would beget more CP.

But if it doesn't result in more sex crimes, what's the problem?

>we're going to have to erase X movies and X books because they have X sex scenes

Same thing ^ with that slippery slope, I concur OP. Disney-tier culture needs to fuck off before it ruins everything. Even shit like Jumper gets on banned book lists despite becoming a movie because there was a near rape scene in it. Those books have rape, they get delet. Just a random example but things like that one movie Speak, same thing. Rape scene, illegal due to it being treated as a real 17/16/15/etc year old having sex and or being raped in such films. It's silly.

They don't have morals. Morals are a spook. They were made by witch hunters with bloodlust and excuses. Morals are about cooperation. If you start banning information you create a gap in people that know vs don't know things.

Read my comment on books and movies with rape scenes and underage sex acting. You're a victim of prude ethics because the only difference is nudity. If the blurred the vag and dick your autism would ironically stop even though It's not hard to imagine that tiny part. It's like the Japanese are with blurring clit and pee holes and such, just a silly prude ethic. >this is drawn murder

They spam the board using literally hundreds of people on a discord server or ten. They're a bad thing here. Pedo isn't real. Especially when it's over unrealistically drawn art.

Why do roasties use meme arrows on Facebook

>redflag of having pedo tendencies
So is being male with the post feminist definition.

Having to show up every now and again on a registry doens't stop them from fucking children. It's a punishment ethic you mong. They try to make them 'pay' for their sexuality or a past choice for the rest of their lives to imply that the child was disturbed their entire lives (even when it's not really that much of a child).

>the longest tripfaggot on the Jow Forums is a facist with normalfaggot ethics

Would you not like Jow Forumsthedonald more?

I personally think alcoholics are not inherently harmful, but it's a definite red flag for drunk driving tendencies. IMO people who consume or share alcohol should be labeled as having been charged with at least one DUI upon being discovered drunk more than once a week so they're watched and harassed too often to dare drunk driving (ever again because they likely do it all the time but get away with it). If you tell your doctor you're alcoholic you should be flagged by every DMV in your country IMO. You could cost someone their actual life.

Itr's unrealistically drawn. Anyone that argues with this is either foaming out of the mouth due to their bloodlust and knee jerk reactions or is literally of a room temp IQ. Anime is meant to be an escape from reality or people would be happier when it got less 2d rather than pissed as CGI became a thing. Idiots.

>looking at an image on your monitor quantum rapes the one involved
>if you watch a snuff film you killed the person

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Idk. Most of the time lolis dont even act like children, so its not like its attraction to childish personalities. Every time I see the people with loli waifus over on its usually attraction to certain traits beyond that, whether its personality based or being physically attracted to slim characters. When its baby and toddlershit I think thats a deeper issue but I can see someone being into say Asuka or Saya from Saya no Uta for reasons beyond "lol sexy kids xd". Just my two cents, having been a commission artist and having done artwork like that for others myself.

Violent movies are essentially made to please basic primat instincts. The default person likes violence, tragedy, action and sex.
But loli isn't basic, it's a strong deviation from that norm, so it's seen as a redflag for the person that consumes it because their primal instincts are much different and potentially more harmful, as opposed to violent urges which is just part of every man's genes, and punching eachother or even going to war and killing each other has been part of our nature since the dawn of mankind. Liking lolis? Not so much. Also because it defies our natural instincts of protecting children
Not arguing you should be in jail or on some gov list, but don't pretend like there's nothing wrong with it. It's the same as with rape fetish or gurofetishism. It's really gross and fucked but no ones gonna throw you into a pit as long as you keep it in your pants.

>>we're banning duels to the death no big deal
>>you'll have to learn to get along

>>we're only going to ban heroin
>>we're only going to ban x drug and x drug etc
>alcohol now and hookers
>mafia forms

>>we're only going to ban real cp involving actual sex acts
>>we're banning lewd real images of small grills now
>>we're banning drawings
>rings form of actual rape dungeons

>homelessness is illegal
>having older cars that are in your control are illegal
>>we're only going to ban not being tracked 24 seven by phones
>>if you don't get a cell you'll be in one (slogan)
>bans laptops
>bans desktops
>99 percent eventually jailed to be lesser class of humans deemed of bad genes to the elites that followed the rules
>mine for the sake of mining, little fun as possible whilst as much work as possible
>only the ones with no mind of their own that don't enjoy it reap the rewards
>the ones in charge never change anything due to being bugmen
>eons pass in purgatory

>be aliens
>each alien is a king of his own technological devices that councils with other rogues in their own utopian realms
>immortal, live for the sake of dreams via tech
>sometimes for the sake of experience dreams nighmares using vr tech
>the vr tech is soulless and doesn't care
>no one cares due to him being alone
>once dreams the dream that is this planet and it gets flagged by his tech as real
>erases the nightmare and flies away with his family of machines that feel nothing but work for him for the sake of keeping him happy
>contacts other rouge ayys
>>look at this bullshit hell dimension!
>they open black holes all around the planet so the suffering ends before it spreads some day to other areas
>they leave to live their lives "alone" once again
>dreams the dream again and again to remind the himself that he lives in heaven for a reason unlike animals that form dystopian ethics
>rogue ape-ship
>>forcefully assimilate THAT *pew pew*

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>sexual deviancy isn't normal human behavior since ancient Rome and ancient Greece
They fucked animals, kids, and had gay sex.

Abrahamic ethics are no fun allowed and vice means in Catholicism the seven deadly sins. Learn what type of shithole you live in please. You were raised by prude ethics designed by a slave race, Jews, that lived in a desert realm. It's their nightmare that they took seriously and now you're infected by it's consequences to be so narrow minded.

Sex is a far more powerful primal instinct than violence you disturbed bastard.

Not him but there is nothing wrong with it unless there's something wrong with desire itself. Of which, that is the point of them banning rest, eating, jealousy, etc. The seven deadly sins are about desiring things. How can you be an animal and not desire things? You're a cuck minded fool. We don't need to be as conservative as a slave race in a desert that invented this sort of ethical society.

>mod
>banned for freedom of expression
No wonder the site only gets worse over everything. Censorship is the only thing that can actually kill the Internet.

The children who will not be abused because people who make and distribute CP are in jail and on lists?

How do you even get off to pictures of undeveloped little girls? What precisely about it turns you guys on?

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I've been drawing shota content for the last 10+ years now. Why the hell are people becoming so much more sensitive? Seems like it started around 2015-16.
Really hoping this doesn't end up seriously effecting my art career.

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Talk about getting defensive sensibleman
Can I get proofs for those claims? Records that it was the norm?
Animals do not desire sex with children, not even monkeys do it. Because its unproductive. Innocence of children has to be preserved. Even animals know that.
Also yes violence is a much bigger urge because of its suppression. Sex is arguably as big or bigger, but you can still get sex if you want, but playing out your natural urges to dominate physically can get you jailed.
And Christian ethics are built to prevent suffering. You're arguing we should evolve backwards ideologically speaking.

Wanting to have sex with children is not a natural urge you tard.
Being turned on by sexual maturity is, that being said there are cases where girls are 15 and already show maturity.
But everything before that is not natural
Your personal opinion cloud's your logic

15 is the same time as 5 you know.

Everyone knows about that their ethics were not the same as ours. Read this or skim it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

Consent mattered but not age. They were usually ''''''teens''''''.

2003 they made it illegal in the USA, 20 years sentence, then everyone else did, now it's starting to be taken seriously. Just like the age of consent at first wasn't taken seriously for decades even once the feminists made it.

Did they ACTUALLY pass a new law about this?

can someone explain?

>consenting teens
There you have it.
Teens are sexually mature most of the times. Legal in japan" isn't a phrase for no reason. Where I live age of consent is 14 or something and no one bat's an eye for most age gaps.
I'm talking about being attracted to pre 14 no chested innocents

It's obviously drawn CP. However the energy that they're using to make people aware of lolicon (or better yet calling everyone who likes anime a pedo) could surely be put to better use by bringing attention to shit like real life pizza, human trafficking and sexualising children. The implications of putting a victimless fictional crime on the same level as actual real children getting taken advantage of angers me.

To me, it's on the same level as the argument over violence in videogames, it is the epitome of first world problems. It comforts me to know that humans are working correctly since they have a desire to protect their offspring, but it's retarded at the same time when you also consider that nobody bats an eye at things like kids being sexualised in the media, lgbt children being brought up to base their identity on what they fuck, kids being encouraged to become trannies, child models on shit like instagram etc. like it's all just part and parcel of the modern world, along with murder and terrorism. For the most part people are just soulless husks who get their morals drip-fed to them by the government and the media and then scream bloodshed and spit poison at any who wants to have a discussion about the uncomfortable truths of reality.

Also it irks me when people with "weeb" profile pictures call other "weebs" condescendingly, look at yourself nigger, stop being so scared to admit that you like something, it doesn't automatically mean you're Ken-sama.

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Same as trying to flame against Nazis on twitter but putting tails between legs when it comes to active backwater KKKs.
It's just easier and these people want to do something without getting themselves in trouble

If it looks like a child, and you're getting off to it, you're a pedo. But I'd rather people jerked off to loli porn to satiate their desires than seek out real CP.

cp is bad because it harms the child. lolicon is a victimless crime and part of freedom of expression
case in point: napalm girl
one-celled beings who work politics by only their moral compass, like most retards nowadays, just spout "it's disgusting!!!" over and over. those are morals. if morals become a grounds for losing freedoms, that's oppression (in this case, censorship). sadly democracy has no ways to protect itself from dangerous morals, so we might soon see napalm girl erased from history, too, then perhaps have science books rewritten to say one's sexual organs are only ready at 18

nothing yet. japan and a lot of orgs there got very angry though, the AFEE even went so far as to call the UN child rapists
of course, all the other countries just blindly agreed because the moral compass will kill our democracy

>implying 30 year olds can fuck teens in any country worth living in right now
There's a gap rule pretty much in all of them until 18+ you mong, it's not about YOU. I doubt they don't bat an eye. That's what makes the ethics of aoc is the eye batting. That's how it starts. If you live in ancient Greece then why don't you just go outside and have fun away from the rest of us repressed individuals?

It's all the same shit below 18. Loli means 'young' girl. Nothing more.

Hair splitter.

>14 looks a certain way
>implying
>also implying adults can't be flat chested post 18

The sad panda country did, Netherlands. They took the site down last I heard.

>put that energy to better use
>mine for the sake of mining
See my previous message you Borg.

What if the only loli I like is an immortal vampire who rapes and dominates boys for sex, and turns them into her servants?

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Nevermind the borg jab I misread your post.

Nevermind

>The sad panda country did, Netherlands
that was a few months ago

japan has like one of the lowest child exploitation rates on earth

NL did nothing, I live there and checked the laws here for it when this happened. It was presumably the hosting provider, not the NL itself

>abuse child psychologically
>ruins their entire life for obvious reasons
>1 year in prison
>have objectively consensual sex with one
>20 years
>draw picture
>also 20 years
>have drug
>3-5 etc years
>punch in face
>week lockup
>impregnate then abandon child
>nothing necessarily done
>rape
>20 years
>she tries to claw your eyes out
>gets away with it
>you backhand her
>1 in jail
>steal from friend
>get away with it
>steal from rich corp that monopolized your world to hell to turn you into a slave
>actually get arrested

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I think I know more about the freaking social standards for sex where I live than you retard
I have seen 16+ teens get off with men in their mid 20s. And no one really cared beyond being judgemental because they both wanted it. Not everyone lives in the stuck up US or England
Though this is just what I always assumed that loli only really applies to preteens
>hurrbdurrb adults can have no tits too
Get out mongloid. You know exactly what I meant

I just saw this thread after writing that post.

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I actually fapped by like 8 years old and by the 9th grade was giving myself enemas and shoving bottles up my ass. I probably damaged my kidneys due to your mild implication that children should be treated like glass. You're turning them into glass in reality. You are supposed to raise not coddle them. You pamper it and it's spoiled. You never expose them to the darkness and they'll be afraid of it their entire lives AND not know how to deal with it.

Someone could have told me enema use harms the kidneys back then, but no, course not.

Also, enema guy here, it was before I had Internet access so inb4.

>me enema use harms the kidneys back then
wait it does?

you mean in adults too?

asking for a friend

If you do it too often it removes the sodium from the lining and then the kidneys have to get stressed out over that when it dehydrates you, or them. Kidneys are complicated so it wasn't just that. It also has to do with phosphorus I think if you use solution too often. It can also create dependency to where if you end up without one you just die. People with damaged kidneys are warned about enemas for such reasons.

They say no more than every other day. Preferably no more than once a week. But, the issue is how much water are they talking about, if you ask me. It freaks me out not knowing if they mean a liter going waaay up or do they mean just the first segment with several ounces washing out the hard parts.

While drinking I've got cloudy urine before from this due to probably acute kidney failure and expect to die sooner or later form it due to OCD even if I stop drinking. Your kidneys do not replicate as other organs can. Not all of their cells. The remaining cells adjust to be stronger and you never know you're going to die until end stage failure usually.

So yes they should talk to kids. The gays know this, they want to protect people like me but you can't come out and say that there's 9th graders out there shoving a water bottle up their asses whilst using that same bottle to wash out the butthole every day.

It might not be that harmful if it's the first segment but what I've gathered is it 'depends'. I gathered this after years of doing it as a bum neet with no friends nor computer access.

There's a difference between protecting children and coddling them, if anything that article is indicative of the latter. In my opinion the school system is damaging enough to the development of children already, especially when adults rely on it to raise their kids for them.

Enemas are fine, they're only harmful if done improperly or too often.

>too often
Funny how there's no exact math on that nor way to tell if it's harming you.

>protect
Obviously. You think teaching a child is abuse. You're just guilty of hatred and closed mindedness or I'd not have to point out to your type my type that faps too early, gets bored, then gives self too many enemas shaving years off of his life. I remember years ago wishing they talked to me about it but being too afraid to speak up with my introverted personality.

You just want the people that are different to die plain and simple.

Not necessarily you you but people that bitch about children being exposed to information* want my type to die because it makes them cringe anyway. No one gives people my age urine tests because le who cares.

brainlet, I asked him due to a personal medical condition I have.

I'm a brainlet because you neglect to bring up your medical condition? I'm the one that informed you about it being dangerous to begin with and yet I'm the brainlet?

Okay faggot.

I assume it's mainly a dehydration sodium thing. If you don't hold it in nor use alot of water maybe it doens't count. Hence why it depends, and they should tell people how to properly do things. As a child no one is going to buy you a salt water enema are they? Not all children have Internet access, I didn't. Not in private.

Also I'm venting cunt. The point of these threads is to troll vs seethe. These types of threads are about drama not advice.

If its not wrong then why do weebs so often defend it by saying "SHES ACTUALLY A 300 YEAR OLD HALF-DRAGON THAT HAPPENS TO LOOK AND ACT EXACTLY LIKE A 4 YEAR OLD!"

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how did you not get the "asking for a friend" joke?

Whatever man you're making wrong assumptions and drawing a line in the sand where there really ought to be no need. examples
>You think teaching a child is abuse.
>You just want the people that are different to die plain and simple.
>your mild implication that children should be treated like glass.

I probably gave off that impression but I'm just in a place where I really fucking dislike public schooling and how it raises peoples children for them. Imagine wanting the gubmint of all things to teach your kid about sex.

>"SHES ACTUALLY A 300 YEAR OLD HALF-DRAGON THAT HAPPENS TO LOOK AND ACT EXACTLY LIKE A 4 YEAR OLD!"

noone uses that argument unironically.
sorry user, but you got the tism.

>>can I see this drawing's ID?
>police walky noises

Shadman actualy did just that.

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>Make a stock template image of someone holding license
>Just edit the hair and face for every character you draw no matter the body type

Did this law actually pass or is it just "suggested" by the UN?

The law has already been around in some countries

Has it ever occurred to you that we aren't defending ourselves, but that's a component of the fetish?
Have you ever considered for a moment that some people don't want to fuck actual children but they are still attracted to smol bodies?
There are literally have entire fucking magazines of lolibaba.

To be fair, laws surrounding actual CP (especially simple possession) are absolutely draconian and rooted entirely in emotion.
If anything, the way the law equates looking at pictures of the crime with the crime itself only trivializes actual child molestation, which is honestly disgusting.
It's no different from feminists who trivialize rape by calling anyone who looks at them wrong a rapist.

Based and Towakopilled.