so I wanna install Linux on my second notebook, so maybe I will leave windows for good someday.
its an Elitebook 2560p with core i5, 8gb ram, ssd.
which distro should I use? Kubuntu18?
I heard Ubuntu is a botnet, is Kubuntu too?
I have no idea about Linux, just give it to me straight.
I want an easy nonbotnet OS, thats it.
Which Linux distribution?
Joseph Cooper
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Nolan Hall
devuan. no systemd botnet and its easy
Justin Gonzalez
I have an 8540p, and PCLinuxOS works OOB, and uses SysVInit instead of system, even had my wifi drivers
Connor Moore
so now I got 2 recommendations I never heard about before.
interesting.
some more opinions?
Luis Hill
how about Sabayon? They got mate, kde, lxde gnome is gentoo based and it's binary distro
Sebastian Nelson
ps their cinnamon is excellent for newbie
Oliver Gomez
Don't do openSUSE Tumbleweed or Fedora because you'll have to hook to Ethernet due to WiFi not working oob
MX Linux is good, Debian fork with SysVInit
Puppy Linux, based off slackware, doesn't have systemd
Chase Cox
>botnet hw
HP = keylogger central
Jack Robinson
It's a good thing I got mine through a defense contractor then
No webcam or microphones either
Levi Phillips
what?
and what does systemd mean in a practical sense? why do I need it?
I just need a nice minimalistic easy to use linux distro. I'm a total noob
Joseph Cook
You don't want systemd because, for me personally, the fact that the creator of SystemD works for Red Hat Linux, who's the biggest government contractor for Linux, and they've been constantly trying to find a way to get in and control the Linux system easily after Linus Torvalds told them to fuck off several times and refuses to compromise the kernel for the sake of "national security"
SystemD gives them the access they were looking for if they choose to use it
Jackson Jackson
>I want an easy nonbotnet OS, thats it.
if you just want something that just works install any flavor of Ubuntu, Manjaro, or Fedora. look into how their package manager works, then look up different desktop environments find something you like. if you find that you enjoy tinkering around in config files to make shit behave exactly how you want start looking into installing Arch or Debian minimal testing, and different window managers.
helpful links
wiki.archlinux.org
wiki.archlinux.org
Aiden Peterson
>HP
Die
Chase Hill
if you wanna something just work get linux miy cinnamon
Easton Peterson
Kubuntu is fine
Hunter Gutierrez
>Kernel panic when loading a Live USB
>in 20 fucking 18
Ian Campbell
>I heard Ubuntu is a botnet
That's just Jow Forums being paranoid. Ubuntu collects some basic statistics about app usage, but you can opt out of that in the installer. It also used to share your menu searches with Amazon, but that was removed when they switched to GNOME. (The other Ubuntu flavors never had the Amazon thing.)
Just play with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE and Linux Mint Cinnamon on a live usb, and see which you like best. Those are easily the best no-nonsense distros.
Tyler Parker
Don't mind the SystemD paranoia here
>Linux Mint is a good starter and solid DEB distro
>Solus, modern with nice but limited software to choose from.
>Gecko if you want to try an RPM distro
Just install a couple and see what you like
William Bailey
>NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS
>MOVE ALONG
W E W
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Lincoln Gomez
ParrotSec
Grayson Wood
Fedora. DynoRoot is awesome
Grayson Ramirez
> i heard that
dropped, go fuck yourself
Christian Morales
SalixOS. Definitely Salix. It's Slackware configured out of the box with a login manager, package managers and some useful utilities and is hands down the best "beginner" distro. Slackware if you're brave enough though, it's really not a "hard" distro, it's just that it's made to be configured to be a server or a desktop while Salix is preconfigured to be a desktop. Ubuntu used to be my go-to newfag rec, but it's no longer "Linux for human beings." It's shit, and actually harder to use than some "intermediate" or "advanced" distros in many ways.
This is a good second option, but I'd wait until their new release candidate turns into proper v2.0. The current stable uses kernel 3.6.39 which is old as fucking shit, and the packages are that old too.
>defending SystemD
Jackson Phillips
kubuntu
Jaxon Price
Devuan is about to ship with KDE5. It's going to be the best KDE distro soon. There's literally no rason to use *buntu shit in the current year. Even ignoring the glaring problem of SystemD, which will be ignored for the sake of argument, *buntu systems are fucking shit. Debian is already flawed enough, as apt is the worst fucking package manager in all of GNU/Linux, but *buntu systems manage to make the experience 10x worse with all of it's retarded design decisions.
Nicholas Gray
systemd is not a botnet
It has less LOC than fucking emacs. The whole "le too big to audit" is absolute bullshit and I'm getting a little tired of illeterate autists parroting opinions.
systemd has problems, pottering needs a spanking amd it does do too much, but it's not a botnet.
Lincoln Adams
The REAL problem with SystemD is it reaches it's tentacles into the entire system, killing fucking everything that was traditionally used in GNU/Linux, and it's spreading so far that at some point, if things continue, it will be literally impossible to use GNU/Linux without SystemD. This is why we have to promote as many non SystemD distros as we can so that people still have a CHOICE, which is what GNU/Linux is about. We already have to use udev and pulseaudio in fucking everything.
Jaxon Ortiz
Install CloverOS
Isaac Hernandez
If you insist on Linux, then Alpine Linux.
But really you should snag a BSD -- any of them are fine. TrueOS is beginner friendly. I prefer OpenBSD.
Levi Jones
OpenBSD has no software.
Ethan White
go to distrowatch.com
look at page hits
install 1st distro
Zachary Evans
t. lenovo using superfish'd nigger
Carter Edwards
You can use whatever the fuck you want on linux.
Personally, pulseaudio made it so that even my annoying hardware + software audio setup just werked on linux.
I don't understand why you suckless niggers are so triggered by functional software.
Don't you have to go recompile your rice into dwm?
Eli Myers
>You can use whatever the fuck you want on linux.
Not for long. What's going to happen when Firefox lists SystemD as a dependency like they did with pulseaudio? If not Friefox, somtheing else literally everyone depends on. The conspiracy is too deep to be comprehended. Freedektop faggots and RedHat want totalitarian control of Linux, and if they can't get into the kernel, they'll have the next best thing.
Jacob Ramirez
Firefox is open source, fork it and patch out the systemd dependencies.
Ayden Anderson
Good luck gethering the resources to maintain a non-meme fork. Very rarely cna you get a bunch of furfags to work for free, eg. palemoon, but it's not often. Big projects like Devuan are a rarity because people have better shit to do. This is just an excuse to blow of the most OBVIOUS fucking takeover of GNU/Linux that has ever happened. GNU/Linux is Europe, and SystemD is """Syrian""" refugees.
Camden Peterson
Wtf are you on about?
WiFi detection works fine on most hardware. Most likely answer is you need non-free driver's which some distros ship with the install media because they like to ignore legal issues.
Aaron Lee
user you really need to take your meds
set an alarm for them or something
Matthew James
An ad-hominem is not an argument. SystemD shills need to fuck off. People need to know the TRUTH about RedHat.
Carter Morgan
drop the autism and people might listen to you
Benjamin Martinez
I'm still waiting for you to stop calling me names and offer a refutation to my points.
Nathan Foster
QubesOS
\thread
Jordan White
He can't because he glows too much
Landon Brown
Helps to search your model ahead of time about driver issues. look into video/wireless/sound/etc. in their forums. PCLinuxOS has been great to me, but I had to toss an external wifi for a Dell D531 for simplicity. Could have gotten the broadcom working but naw. not playing that. Not a huge deal as I have spare tp-link usb adapters.
Evan Harris
Basing on the comments, there something wrong with HP Laptops?
Ryan Cooper
Not the elite line put 100%, Pro is hit or miss. Anything consumer grade is absolute complete shit.