/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing.
>Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. not Speccy
>For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

CPU
>i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming
>R3 2200G/R5 2400G - If you aren't buying a GPU
>i5 8400 - Best value for gaming
>R5 2600/x - Good for multithreaded work
>i7 8700k/R7 2700x - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform OR wait for intel 9th gen (est. release November)
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>wait for RTX 2000 if you are rich
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans UNLESS they are much cheaper
1080p
>RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games
>GTX 1070 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
1440p
>Avoid Vega since Nvidia has sales now
>1070Ti/1080 /w a 75+ hz monitor
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
4K
>1080Ti medium/high settings
>2080Ti

Storage
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models.
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS)
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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What’s a good cheap quiet cpu cooler?

>vega has infinite memory
gonna be hard to top that one

Anyone know of a non-flashy mini-itx case with two 3.5" harddrive bays?

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Not him, but I think the idea is that paging kills performance way less with hbm2 than gddr5. Makes sense, haven't tested it myself.
>I'd really recommend it if you can afford it
I can afford it in a sense, but it's more than I want to pay. I'm in a slightly unusual spot... I can justify the 4K screen since I can use it productively too, but there's only so much money I can reasonably spend on frivolities like graphics cards given my current budget.

Curious to hear opinions from anyone who plays at >1440p but

MSI X470 Gaming Plus, or the Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Gaming motherboard? I am looking for cheaper end x470 motherboards and am between these two, any preference for one or another?

This convoluted reasoning for lowballing me on my used 1070 is funny.
It's actual meme material.
There is a $700 difference between the msrp of a 2950X and 2400G. Given that I can find a Threadripper $850 new, $150-$700 = negative $550. Because it is a used CPU %20 off in my opinion is fair game. There for -550 - 110 = you give me the 2400G and $660?

You left out some words and context, such as
>theoretically
As in, if you had infinite RAM than HBCC gives you effectively infinite VRAM. Paging doesn't kill performance the way it does with other GPU memory controllers.

>Avoid Vega since Nvidia has sales now
Retarded OP again

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more cores is not always better

Is it true 8400 already chokes on some current high end games like battlefield?

Thoughts on 2400G now and buying a discrete GPU later, vs buying both later?