Previous thread: If you're looking for purchase advice, state your budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Modern models: >X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light >T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series >T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0 >T440s >T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement) >P-Series - 15'' + 17'', 4K display, up to 64GB of RAM, Xeon CPU option. Expensive.
Why ThinkPad? >Used machines are plentiful and cheap >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet >Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop >Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain >The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
So anons I had asked you for some help regarding x250 screen replacement. Well I ordered some x240 screen and just held my fingers crossed and tossed it in my x250 and voila, it worked.
both are good laptops depends on whether you want a bigger one pretty sure there isnt an m.2 drive there is a slot for mpcie/msata which is at sata2 speeds (better off just buying a bigger 7.5 inch SSD) t. x230,x260,t430 owner
Adrian Ross
Does the t430 have an ips display
Tyler Price
The wireless card in my t420 is performing pretty poorly. I have the Intel centrino wireless-n 1000, and I noticed on the thinkwiki that the ultimate-n 6300 has a bug in newer kernels that will not be fixed. Does anyone have any experience with that card/bug? I could also get the 6205 but would prefer higher bandwidth if the bug is rare/not that bad.
Isaiah Peterson
tn
Jack Allen
I bought a T500 today for a few bucks that was being sold for parts. The keyboard was bad, so I replaced it with a keyboardfrom a T60 I had laying around. My laptop now works, but I'm left wondering, what renders some of the keys unresponsive, and others working fine? Is The keyboard tha tI replaced salvageable?
Dylan Rodriguez
Can you make the x220 fhd?
Angel Allen
my one doesnt think its the t430s that has the ips option (dont quote me on that tho)
Nolan King
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Alexander Torres
there is a kit but i have no experience with it requires soldering, specific displays for specific models
Logan Sanders
Which X model would I need to buy to get a fhd display
Carter Walker
How do I disable Bluetooth on start up on the x230 running Ubuntu?
Kayden Stewart
Based lenovo has actually fixed S3 sleep for X1C6 with a bios update.
(New) Support Optimized Sleep State for Linux in ThinkPad Setup - Config - Power. (Note) "Linux" option is optimized for Linux OS, Windows user must select "Windows 10" option.
Blake Harris
Not stock but there is a chinese adapter board on ebay that allows you to use IPS Yes with nitrocaster's mod board it doesn't however it was the first vs the regular T430 to get a FHD mod
Angel Bailey
A few questions: >how hard is it to unlock the BIOS on the x-series up to 220; >what are actual alternatives to the tablet variants in the Thinkpad series (latitude/elitebook) if any (the w700 is fine, but I want a capacitive screen); >is the go-to place for ThinkPads eBay or is there another more obscure place?
What I want is a portable Linux-capable laptop with a digitizer screen that I can both work on my art commissions and study with. Been considering buying an iPad plus an apple pencil from eBay, but the lack of an actual keyboard is a nono for programming purposes.
David Jones
what are the main differences between a X230 and a T430 (except the display ...)
Landon Fisher
What's the general opinion here of the x1 carbons, particularly the gen 3 and 4? >soldered ram & CPU. at least it's light and thin with a half decent keyboard.
Chase Clark
I want to buy my first Thinkpad because I need a small laptop. The T420 looks great and cheap. I can get one 900p model for 170 euroburgers (decent price here). Should I pull the trigger ? Do I require to flash a new BIOS to change the CPU ?
You're going to get people praising them and people saying they're a disgrace and you should only get x220/t420 or older, and then you'll get people saying that anything Lenovo is trash and you should only use ibm thinkpads.
Ryder Harris
You only need coreboot for ivybridge CPUs, if you swap to a different sandybridge you should be fine
Easton Thomas
That's nice. Thank you user. How is battery support on the T420 and the X220 ? I saw and I guess some knock off batteries are not supported ?
Chase Gonzalez
>wireless N card >100mbps damn, this shit works fucking great
Joseph Anderson
>small laptop take it from a T owner, you WILL feel it carrying around, and it WILL take up alot fo space in whatever bag you're carrying it in
Noah Ortiz
That picture is bashing the x230/t430 which both have a way of checking to make sure the battery is a Lenovo part. T420 and x220 don't have this, although I would suggest trying to get a legit battery while they're still available since the knockoffs are known to be pretty crappy, and the Chinese one I got on Amazon didn't work at all.
Juan James
Shut up homo
Angel Martin
The main purpose of the laptop is to shitpost while on my bed. The only thing that will carry it are my car and my legs. Don't worry.
Thanks for your input. Will see if there is anything relevant on Amazon.
Is a good product ? It claims that it's original but I really doubt it. Buyers are happy with it.
William Turner
I have no way of knowing really, but others in /tpg/ have said that the Chinese batteries work great at first but lose their capacity very quickly.
Blake Roberts
I see. Thanks.
Mason Brooks
Should I buy a x200t? Wont use it for much else than taking notes and practicing my handwriting.
Juan Scott
Tracking is lagging in Ubuntu 18.04 and fiddling with sensitivity settings doesn't fix it. Is this still some issue with "libinput" or whatever, anyone know?
Adam Butler
Is it true that, with time, the display cables on the tablet variants of the ThinkPads break after opening, twisting and closing over and over again? Someone just told me that was a problem with older models.
Looks like one of the uncommon T430's that came with Sandy Bridge instead of Ivy Bridge. Not really that big a deal, but it'd be better to get Ivy. Either way, it'll do decent with 720p video streaming, I use a similar laptop for recording games with an AverMedia external capture device and it works fine.
Joseph Flores
What's the best ThinkPad for College / fighting games (heaviest game I play is tekken)
Joshua Campbell
I updated the bios on my new T440p to 2.50 without thinking about it. Have I fucked myself out of bumblebee when I switch to linux? I'll go to great lengths to downgrade to a version like 1.14, any suggestions?
Nathan Sullivan
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and the plethora of mods GZDoom and the plethora of mods Quakespasm and the plethora of mods Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 Dwarf Fortress 2hu Emulators up to 5th gen Xboard/Winboard
I need a laptop for school and some gaymen. The heaviest game I plan to run on it is Red Orchestra 2 with low settings. Budget is ~$1000. Closest thing I can find is a T480 with the dgpu and good display, but those things just don't exist anywhere.
Gavin Butler
If you mean Tekken 7 then you're probably not going to be playing that unless it's the newest laptops.
I've played FightCade smoothly on Pentium M machines like X41
Brandon Allen
I play Kuma.
Lucas Hall
What can comfortably play tekken 7 for a budget of ~$700 then?
How thick is the hard drive on a t400? I need to replace the drive but im not sure if its 7mm or 9mm. I measured approximately .3inches with a ruler which is around 7.62 mm. But again thats an approximation. There’s a cheap 128gb ssd off amazon for 30 that’s 7mm and it interests me just not sure if i should buy it.
Ian Long
The Thinkpad x200, how's the latency on the pen? Is it good for drawing? I wanted something to test out on before I try buying something more expensive, and it can work as a travel drawing tablet.
>got an X250 for $200 >500GB HDD, rough condition, 1366x768 panel >upgrade to 250GB SSD, replace palm rest and keyboard+trackpad, upgrade screen to 1920x1080 IPS panel, polish everything up, re-paste CPU and clean out fan all for $200 and a few hours of time $400 and a few hours for a basically factory refurbished quality higher-end X250. Feels good lads.
Dylan Anderson
T430 is a solid choice if you still want it, just check the specs and make sure it's an Ivy Bridge CPU
Isaac Nguyen
It has a kit that's literally plug and play, it'll cost you roughly $130 or so screen and all. Mad comfy though.
Tablet ThinkPads are just okay. Unless you can deal with the lack of screen space you aren't going to be an artist with it very easily. They're okay for quick things but nothing serious. Pressure sensitivity is just 512 levels, IMO you are better just getting a cheap Wacom.
If you're looking small then go with the X-series. T4XX series isn't massive, but it's not small. If you're down to look a little harder/longer for a T430 then I'd recommend that over a T420 any day.
Liam Butler
I put a 7mm ssd in my t400 just fine
Gabriel Carter
Shouldn't really matter much because you screw it into the caddy and use the rubber rails, so I'd say 7mm.
Nicholas Kelly
I do have a normal tablet but wanted to try drawing on a screen before I go for the cintiq meme also. The screen size is 12.1 inches so it's not a huge problem, my very first tablet was like half that.
Is there a better laptop/thinkpad you'd recommend though?
How to apply custom charging thresholds to a t430 with tlp, when I try it it just gets stuck, it won't charge or discharge.
Alexander Harris
sudo tlp setcharge It resets every time you remove the battery.
John Cook
cant control my brightness with Windows 10, is that normal?
Noah Gonzalez
>windows 10 why even bother posting here
Grayson Lee
I've only ever seen that when doing virtual machine stuff, or do you have some pirated windows 10? Or maybe whatever you're on has some proprietary brightness settings.
Jacob Morales
Check if everything is ok with igpu driver.
Aiden James
Anyone know where to get replacement keycaps? The clips on the back of one of my shift keys broke after removing it for cleaning and it won't attach properly anymore. I have a T430 with a backlit keyboard. Seems non-backlit models have different method of attachment which is the only other part I have on hand unfortunately.
Jayden Robinson
Did you replace the screen? It might not have the right FRU assigned to the epROM You can change it w/ Linux, but I forget how.
Nathan Young
Does the laptop need to be plugged to the AC adapter?
Device Manager detects a PCI device with a question mark, but everything detects both the Intel and ATI gpu
No, Windows 10 Education, but I did use the toolkit to remove a bunch of windows bloat
>not dual booting absolutely disgusting.
Samuel Martin
hi there, thinkpad newfag here i installed ubuntu today on one of SSD's that had an old windows installation on it. i used a live USB to install ubuntu 18.04... my problem is i get this black screen after post with only a small blinking cursor at top corner. it only starts ubuntu when i boot off of the USB. its installed on the SSD for sure but i just dont understand what i doing wrong. trying to learn something new.
I need a new thinkpad. What are the differences between x201, x220 and T420? From what I understand, the X201's keyboard is slightly better, where the X220 is lighter/thinner then the T420?
Austin Hughes
Hey anons. I want to replace the hard drive in my x220 with a faster SSD. I don't know jack shit about working with laptop parts though as I've only worked with desktops. Can someone give me a run down of like sizing/compatibility problems I should look out for?
Lucas Sullivan
What model? Most of the Thinkpads I've worked with do not use the GPU driver, they use the brightness signal from the ICH southbridge.
Easton Wright
Should I just stick to buying used x220s whenever I need a new one for the rest of my life?
Jordan Campbell
should i try that during the Black screen of death? or at boot
Mason Jones
how often do they die?
Jacob Gonzalez
nothing happens when i press alt f2. hmm.. maybe i fucked up GRUB when i installed the OS
Gabriel Roberts
you buy an ssd you stick it in easy peasy
Charles Reed
Yes
Daniel Roberts
There isn't like a specific size of ssd I need?
Jeremiah Bell
No
Angel Sanders
At the black screen. Sometimes when you boot into the system to the cursor in top left corner, it's because the display manager failed. Alt + F2 switches to a second TTY window where you can see logs/debug (at least on Arch).
Mason Price
you buy an ssd you stick it in easy peasy
Bentley King
The list just got longer again... It doesn't even fit in one post anymore fuck Also, has anyone changed out the trackpad sticker on their **20/30 machines? I don't use mine at all but I'd like to swap them out for nice new ones. Are there different textures available? Do the old ones remove cleanly? (I stick to the memepoint on my older machines and the elitebook has a glass trackpad that basically doesn't get any wear at all)
Also, new best deal in used bizniz laptops: BIOS locked HP 8440p's. HP will still unlock it for you over the phone and you can find entire lots of them for under $100 bucks.
Should've just installed Windows >inb4 bill gates shills >fucking up Ubuntu Please explain why you think you shouldn't use Windows
Samuel Ward
Well, you need a T15 driver to get the sled off the old drive. But apart from that, it's a field swapable part, yeah.
Julian Roberts
You guys weren't fucking kidding. One week in and I am accustomed to the clit. I wish it could be more sensitive so I can cover more area quicker but it's pretty damn great