What happened to the world?

What happened to the world?
Nobody even mentions snowden and wikileaks, and all the events that happened regarding the cyber world and spying on whole nations,net neutrality,etc.
How did all this just slide like some ordinary news about fruit or how to lose weight, when it was the marking point when our world slipped into cyber dystopia forever and with no even the aesthetics ?

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Would you prefer to live in the Byzantine empire, OP? Would that make you happier?

aww hang in there ethan hawke, you'll have robot girls in another 10 or 20 years unless a feminist runs your country

it's THE BLUE PILL

"It doesnt take a majority to change the world, but a small committed majority"
-some asshole

Minority ...fuck

This is a Jow Forums thread.
I really feel that wikileaks credibility got blown out by Assange making vague hints about Seth Rich being a victim of state sanctioned murder due to leaks while "credible" tech forensics have shown leaks were likely from... Russian hackers.
Plus there is no alternative to the internet. Summed up by this user:

you had one job and you want the change the world...

wow, is there anything russian hackers can't do? Russia must be a glorious cyber empire hacking ever technology in existence and not some lame crutch fake news use when they need to justify their so called reporting.

this
so many bluepilled idiots here

Don't think too hard about these things goyim. There's a new superhero movie on Netflix. Some skank is pregnant. Assad is gassing his own people! Unbelievable! Have a burger, it's good for you!

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People are trapped in a dreamlike state by the drug-induced soma of modern technology that they're tricked into thinking they can't live without.

user bluepill is the ultimate red pill

Today's society does well to keep the masses busy, they don't have time to worry about long term issues until they're much older. People are lusting for safety and security because as they've grown up, they, for some reason, came to realize that those are the best things that they can hope to achieve. It's all about "don't let tomorrow be worse than today". Now all you need to do is call Snowden a traitor and there you go: he is now easy to hate because the populace feels threatened. And considering the public gets at least one new enemy every day, he is quickly forgotten.

Nobody really believes in long term goals past global warming, and even that's a maybe. People will tell you to work for your country, but they don't believe in that either and most take themselves way too seriously considering. Humanity has no vision, and the advances in technology seem to "fix" and push "progress" instead of the people wielding it. There are principles and culture, but they're still here simply because they were valued before, and that value is lost on those here today.

One needs the masses to think, plan and strive on long term goals for things such as privacy to matter.

the old war is piece trick doesn't work anymore, back to shill school with you

Anything important going on is just slid under the rugs and replaced with things extremely unimportant like some stupid hurricane, or celebrities, movies. It's a magic trick governments have been playing on their people for years now.

>wikileaks
hillary killed it 2y ago

The problem is the source of the leaks shouldn't matter. Assange doesn't care where leaks are sourced from, so long as they are genuine (which forensics also confirmed as genuine). He has always maintained that the site upholds his philosophy of "radical transparency."

The WikiLeaks affair is just people upset because they assumed that the site was in favor of their political ideologies due to past leaks. Truth should be more important than where the information comes from, but it isn't to most people.

Snowden still comes up occasionally and wikileaks blew it by being exposed as a russian shill front. They haven't released anything interesting in years

As for all the spying nobody got mad enough to do anything so it's just been accepted. Be the change you want to see, OP

not thinking in advance and in long term doesnt separate us from the sheep and dogs
its a global dumbing down of people never before seen in history because apparently all they neededw as a smartfone attached to every human

>Russian shill front
Truth is objective

>site littered with literal russian malware ads
>le blue pilled kuks think russisns can into tech
Yeah, it's all a satanist underground pedophile ring pulling all the strings in washington. Thank you for your awesome wisdom QAnin!

I do agree with you. I just find that the whole brainwashing angle turns everyone off from the main point I'm trying to make. There's this big ditch and people are desperately shoveling dirt into it, without really knowing why it exists or why it needs to be filled. It is madness, and I believe that to function in today's 1st world, you do have to be either stupid, at least somewhat mad, on pills/drugs or have immense discipline, willpower and great upbringing (or some combination). The shortsightedness is very damaging in my opinion, because it causes ones values to stray from "I want tomorrow to be better so that our young can have an even better life" to "I want everything to still be here tomorrow"(these are supposed to sound generalized and blunt, but you get the idea). This is why technology such as smartphones are so attractive to the masses: they bring respite from this mad, shortsighted world. As a consequence people tend to flock to online bubbles looking for hugboxes, distancing themselves from problems and opposing opinions; and this is something that surely has a negative effect on their intelligence, as well as the world around them. Even if the "sheeple" realize they are asleep, do they have a reason to wake up?

maybe theres no spooky agenda
maybe its all inherent within us, maybe nature does not favors smarts
we seem like chaotic free willed organisms and but we all normalize in the end
there are billions of websites yet great majority of people just visits about 10 websites

Great job.

Because both of them are just Russian shills, and everyone has known this for awhile.

Yes.

Who pays them doesn't change the truth.

snowden was recruited by the russian intelligence from the start snd they just put a "whistleblower" spin on it, probably the same with wikileaks

Stallmanites are just useful idiots in the great game like the vietnam protesters were back in the day

>snowden was recruited by the russian intelligence from the start snd they just put a "whistleblower" spin on it, probably the same with wikileaks
Whether he was a shill or not, those leaks are true.

>Stallmanites are just useful idiots in the great game like the vietnam protesters were back in the day
I still had doubts you were retarded, but this line removed them.

>The WikiLeaks affair is just people upset because they assumed that the site was in favor of their political ideologies due to past leaks. Truth should be more important than where the information comes from, but it isn't to most people.
This. People thought it was left-leaning because it initially leaked shit about Bush & Co., but then everyone got mad when they started leaking stuff about other people too. Truth is truth.

My dad redpilled me at an early age when he ran undelete software on the computer and found a shit tonne of porn. I suggest all dads do the same. I am now extremely woke.

russians dont need pro hackers at all. They were always masters of propaganda and the first to realize how incredibly useful things like Jow Forums can be. They dont care about your redpills, they just like how divisive that shit is.

It used to be heavy handed slogans but now morons see a funny frog that makes them laugh and immediately buy into whatever bullshit is behind it.

Russians know best of all how dangerous nationalism is - their last empire imploded because of it.

our society is so fucked up and beyond repair that people (some presented here in this thread) cannot even comprehend what objective truth is.
they are blinded by their political opinions,nationalism,etc.

if hitler or stalin said that sky is blue that makes it a lie since they were evil psychos

Snowden and Wikileaks are connected to Russia.

so is my dick your mouth

Assuming this is true... what then?

Non-politically inclined normies will only care when there's a direct attack on their own finances. The problem with computing is that its so user-friendly and effortless now, no one can comprehend how it works or how vulnerable it is.

So what?
What matters is truth. Not the messenger.

>Russians know best of all how dangerous nationalism is - their last empire imploded because of it.
Imagine being this ignorant.

see

It doesn't even need to be true in this climate.

>is there anything russian hackers can't do?
Maybe not 'hacking' so much, but Russians really cant into shilling tbqh. They are a nation entirely bereft of the concept of subtlety. This does not translate well towards leading finely nuanced online discussion in the direction you wish. Even amidst Jow Forums-tier nonsense, you can spot the sudden interest of Russian Troll Factories, as they wade in mob handed false flags a-flying, displaying all the tact and finesse of a Mongolian Farmers Oktoberfest at chucking out time. srsly crude people, the Ivans.

People forget quickly

>maybe theres no spooky agenda
Some are definitely pushing an agenda, be it through propaganda, or simply trying to control things from behind the scenes. I wouldn't really give it a conspiracy theory magnitude, but there are groups of people who indeed have goals unknown to most. They create chaos partly because of the conflict between each other.
>maybe its all inherent within us, maybe nature does not favors smarts
>we seem like chaotic free willed organisms and but we all normalize in the end
I am sure that taking the path of least resistance is a good trait, in that it will provide a species an easier way to survive. I wouldn't be so quick to mark intellect as a disadvantage, though. Not that this matters for us - we are conscious and on top of the food chain now. It doesn't bother a monkey in the long run if another steals their banana; it bothers us, though. We are dealing with problems that are both unique to us and were created by us. The normalization is a part of our society, but people take it for granted, especially today where one's humanity and nature are suppressed under layers of said normalization. Consequently people do not expect other humans to be "human" anymore and as such we are in a rush to suppress these outbreaks of "humanness" with weirder laws and whatnot. And as a consequence of that, we have some forms of extremism. Molds will continue to break until we either stop using molds or we ourselves break, with the latter being more likely with the whole dystopia fascination. The breaking and trying to fit into such molds keeps one busy, which brings us back to the first point. And like I've mentioned before: unless we as a collective want to build a better tomorrow with a better society and utilizes technology in more reasonable ways, etc., we will continue to have the masses act primal and thus uninterested in the problems at hand as they search for more pleasure.

if the russian hackers were so good, they wouldnt be living in fucking russia

it's always been like this, you were just too young to remember. just like 70 year old boomers talking about how the 50s were better in every conceivable aspect despite being objectively wrong. rose tinted goggles. welcome to hell.

user where's your Amazon Alexa Device™? I didn't see one on your house's live feed? Are you okay? I've informed the authorities they'll be able to help you out with purchasing a new one.

I like how you casually mention
>net neutrality
did you actually fall for the meme or are you baiting?

Assange and wikileaks were deep state plants anyway.

Thats a common and baseless worldview. Western-world boomers like the 50s and 60s because of the western post-war prosperity showering the middle class in luxuries and wealth unrivaled previously or since.

Likewise, we are at a unique point in history - of course there has always been lies, state secrets and oppression of people as long as we've had civilizations, but now is the first time a government (agency) can literally see and hear everything people say and do by spying on the billions of microphones and cameras around the world, or, shut down foreign countries infrastructure using state-crafted malware using a fist-full of 0-days.

>maybe theres no spooky agenda
Just because you have no plan does not mean that there are no people with it.
I had my experience with psychopaths in high positions, just a bunch of them in government could create such chaos like now.

>Western-world boomers like the 50s and 60s because of the western post-war prosperity showering the middle class in luxuries and wealth unrivaled previously or since.
> what was poverty (yes, white middle class murica was bretty gud but life outside the suburbs wasn't great)
> what was polio
> what was racism
> what was rampant sexism
> what was the various wars that a lot of people thought would be the end of the literal world
> what was high cancer death rates
need I go on?

>but now is the first time a government (agency) can literally see and hear everything people say and do by spying on the billions of microphones and cameras around the world, or, shut down foreign countries infrastructure using state-crafted malware using a fist-full of 0-days.
people said something similar about the atomic bomb. new inventions pose new challenges. variations upon a theme. same genre, different author.

Born too late for electronics without hardware backdoors

Born too early for direct neural interfaces

Born just in time to auto-install Gentoo in 2 minutes all packages compiled with CFLAGS="-Ofast -mmmx -mssse3 -pipe -funroll-loops -flto=8 -floop-block -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -ftree-loop-distribution"

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uh oh looks like we've got a wikipedia historian over here

> what was racism
> what was rampant sexism
Something that shouldn't be touched.
Maybe today we wouldn't be busy fixing problems like CoC or "migrants".

if you're going to import niggers to your country the least you could do is treat them like human beings

get off Jow Forums grandpa

>implying I'm murrican
Their own nigger neighbors did not treat them like humans when they invaded their village.
Or the slavers they sold them to for banal shit and a cow.
Or the jews that bought them and packed them on ship.

Jow Forums has been subverted by pink haired communist trannys. The Jow Forums mod is a kike. I repeat, the Jow Forums mod is a kike.

>subverted by
this has always been a trans/g/ender board, you're just a newfag

are you cute?

That was my point, what matters is the truth of the message. Not if it was told by russians, chinese or americans.

I've brought this upto people inside tech before and most of the time they just respond that they're happy being deluded and living in a bubble. Most people don't want to think about hard things, they just wanna order their grande frappe from Starbucks and browse cat memes on Facebook. The simple fact is that most people indulge in bad behaviours everyday not because they want to make bad choices, but because they want to be comfortable. Society is jerryrigged to reward complacency, think about big business fuck ups, the GFC, healthcare and government. People are rewarded very nicely for sweeping aside their moral hindrances and switching off that part of the brain that says "This is fucking wrong". Ultimately, we're all capitalists, when it comes down to it. We look out for our own interests first because that's the way our brains operate, we cling to anything that will ensure survival. And this is the case for most people.

If you think that Wikileaks is a Russian operation, you're actually more brainwashed than normie faggots that use social media and tweet about inane shit in life.

>Nobody even mentions snowden and wikileaks, and all the events that happened regarding the cyber world and spying on whole nations,net neutrality,etc.


Most of us assumed this type of thing was happening. Only the turboest of spergs made a big deal about it.

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Normalfag dont give a fliying fuck about anything of sustance.

we knew about this 60 years ago
so far it's going exactly as described, now with more tech

Too much information. Why focus on serious issues when you can meme.

Thanks for the warning, Huxley. Too bad we forgot about you in favor of Orwell.

The problem is that you think the "news" are relevant to real world problems.

tell me more

Everyone is being flooded with garbage.
Even when what you talked about were hot topics most of the people I know didn't even bother to look into them they waited to be spoonfed by their favorite news cooks.

News is just a time slot for one kind of show to sell ads, some times it functions as announcement for local stuff like bad weather so that kinda has a walue if you have no other way to get alerts, but if you want to learn about stuff you need to read and spend attention, not sit back and be spoon feed inane babble.

Well, people these days (even normies) are certainly a lot more privacy-conscious than they were 10 years ago, and they are also paying more attention to the government's efforts to establish a dictatorship. It's just that the mainstream media doesn't focus on that stuff because they're a shill for the New World Order and want to keep people ignorant, because keeping a populace in the dark is one of the essential components to enslaving them.

It's not working though, because I've seen so many trends that suggest that the cabal that controls the world is crumbling. Bitcoin is more popular than ever, eroding the monopolistic power of the Federal Reserve banks. More and more people are switching to web services that respect their privacy and don't censor them. Normal everyday fucks are talking with each other about the problems going on in the world as they sit in coffee shops and cafés. People were not nearly this woke 10 years ago. I am confident that despite the mainstream media's efforts to distract us from our oppression by the 1% with identity politics, freedom will prevail in the end.

>...
opinion discarded

because
>muh tranny rights

virgin freak

>in the great game
What useful part does he play?
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god I wish that were me

Everyone decided its more important that we get school shooters before they even know they want to do it. Meaning people have come to actively expect that everything is being monitored all the time.

We got played, and at this point it's all going towards AI. What this means is no one can get outraged at NSA employees saving nude pics or something, it will be 100% accepted as the norm that a higher power is judging what you do constantly. Welcome to the botnet, Linus wont save you now.