Red pill on DDG? Is it really "free"?

Red pill on DDG? Is it really "free"?

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if you trust ddg, you're a part of the problem. look up the creator of it, gabriel weinberg.

> gabriel weinberg
What's wrong with him?

LMAO JUST LOOK IT UP 4HEAD

(((weinberg)))

In the past he was caught selling private info about his customers

look up NamesDatabase and Learnection
specifically NamesDatabase which he sold to classmates.com - bet you wouldn't want your information sold off would you?

Did duckduckgo sell information?

build a webcrawler and make your own, its the only way to be sure

Just build a multi-million dollar search engine LMAO

>its the only way to be sure
German fag spotted.
In German the word for sure is the same as for safe.

There's no way to know, but do you trust the creator of the names database to run a privacy oriented service?

It sounds like you are a google shill with no argument.

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When did I shill for google? And my point is pretty clear. The guy that runs DDG previously ran a service called "names database" and sold it off. If you can trust him then use his service.

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TRUST ME I'M A DUCK

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etherrag.blogspot.com/2013/07/duck-duck-go-illusion-of-privacy.html

>weinberg
>whats wrong with jews?
nice try kike!

He sold his company, you implied that he sold private information in a cunning way, go away gaslighting shill.

Not the guy you're replying to, but he did sell the private information you fucking retard. If you actually cared about this shit you would take a minute out of your life and read something.

He sold his company and everything that it caontained, it was clearly implied he sold private information of his users in a cunning way, now that you have already collected your 5 cents from google, go away gas-lighting shill.

Cuck Cuck goy

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>harvest user data more aggressively than any modern social media site
>sell it to evil data hording company
>"it's okay because he sold the rest of the company too!"

What search engine respects your privacy then?
Why and when did ddg became the de facto search engine for users that care about privacy?

DDG has no user signup and sets no identifying cookies. there's no effective way for it to track its users, hence no way to gather data on them, so no data to sell. the two services are simply not comparable.

This.
The namesdatabase or whatever wasnt a privacy focused software. It was a proprietary database for profit.
Also who better to run duckduckgo than a jew who knows the data bussiness?

less jewish than google. don't rely on a single layer of protection to preserve your privacy like a dumb goy and you'll be fine. or do, you're not important enough for anyone to care about.

It known my FUCKING HTTP HEADERS??!!

>you're not important enough for anyone to care about.
The classic "LOL I DONT HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE" retarded argument.
Lets see if the USA turns into CHINA like the dems want and they start putting people in prison (or worse) for wrongthink, if you "don't have anything to care about".
Retards like you have 0 comprehension of what the true value of privacy is.

whoa settle down sperglord
>THE EVIL LIBERAL GUBIMINT IS GONNA DISAPPEAR ME FOR LOOKING AT ANIME GIRLS
did you just assume most people's threat model?

>What search engine respects your privacy then?

Funny how no one mentions anything. Startpage is fine, I guess for now until Jow Forums says otherwise.

Don't trust anything hosted on US servers.

Pros:
> no “targeted results” like google
> probably the most usable search engine besides google and bing

Cons:
> not actually free, they serve ads
> they don’t actually protect your privacy

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I'm fucking dead man

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This is literally what is happening in China, UK and many "liberal" (leftist) government, people are LITERALLY being sent to prison or executed because of a tweet, your "argument" is retarded.

Zucerkberg, Weinberg, those Jews sure do love selling people's personal information huh?

>implying US commies (aka "liberals" aka "democrats") aren't calling for "hate speech" laws to be placed and completely removing all constitutional rights

>there's no effective way for it to track its users
Its called browser fingerprinting and its a effective way to track users that is also used by google, bing, and other search engines besides DDG as a way to track users.

>DDG is hosted on American servers, specifically AWS, and thus must comply with Patriot Act, CALEA, FISA, etc.
>Amazon is notorious for data mining
>Amazon provides a means for three letter agencies to sidestep DDG even if DDG Lavabits them
>CALEA and FISA allow triple letter agencies to coerce services into providing tap-on-demand
>DDG could provide a splitter-feed to NSA and technically claim they don't store your information
>Upstream siphons off of “communications fiber cables and infrastructure as data flows past” at all the major “choke points” of the internet.

tld;dr:
>They are reaping the benefits of an uninformed populace flocking to their service to avoid the NSA dragnet. The privacy they offer is privacy from third-party advertisers and cross-site tracking.

all search engines are botnet, never use it

It's pretty popular in the privacy community, the best one out of the bunch. Startpage is too slow, so a no go for me. Qwant doesn't offer the results I need. Searx.me or any instance of it is useless unless you run it on your own server, which I don't own. DDG isn't Google, provides decent results, and claims it protects privacy, so I'll use it igdaf about Gabriel's history.

It's not free. You get ads on it when you search for stuff (it's the old and good model of binding ads to keywords that you search on it). Duckduckgo is profitable because it doesn't buy a butt-ton of servers to store all the data, all it needs is to index websites and that's all.

English speakers say the same thing too.

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It's the best compromise imo
Significantly less data sharing than other services but still has decent functionality unlike start page.

Probably not "free", but at least still better than Google since it doesn't censor search results. Recently Google has started to "(((protect))) you from misinformation" - and DDG is finally usable as a search engine, so that's what did it for me.
So if DDG resells information - Google does the same. ixquick and startpage have next to unusable search results, so I'm just taking the least worst option.
I find it very funny when people complain about DDG reselling data, but continue to use Google like they don't do it either.

Damn... I unironically use DDG to find 3D loli

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>He actualy trusts a company, any company to respect your privacy.
>He actualy unironicaly thinks he can get privecy by switching search engines
>He actualy trusts ads

This is not how it works or even is suposed to work.

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Just use ddg over tor

i use just google

>build a webcrawler and make your own, its the only way to be sure
I'm actualy interested. Is there a easy out of the box webcrawler that I can run on my PC to instanlty get my own search engine?

Something like PHPBBS for localhost or something.

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with jews you lose.

This

Only searching on DDG sucks ass all pictures have the name
proxy.duckduckgo.com.jpeg
And this is a teribly bad thing!

Why not give the original file name like google?

So if DDG is still suspect when it comes to privacy, whats the actual best alternative search engine?

zmap
zmap -p 80 -r 10000 | zgrab --port 80 --http="/" 2>/dev/null | grep -Ei "(search term 1|search term 2|search term 3)" >results.json
That will scan port 80 of every website for your search terms. Keep in mind that with 10 Kp/s you will take around 5 days to scan the internet, and you need to do so two or three times to make absolutely sure that you get all the search terms.
If you had better internet than mine you could get it done a lot faster.

Using Google to make mundane and believable searches to construct a fake persona and then searching for anything private using the wifi in a coffee shop, because anything else would make your internet traffic suspicious.

Is there a non jew search engine with half decent performance?

DDG works without javascript, and even offers a html-only site, nullifying most browser fingerprinting methods. we're entering the realm of "believe what you want to believe" because there is no evidence that collecting user data is part of their business model, and a lot of evidence that they want to prevent themselves getting that data.

Whatever it is, it's still better than fucking google.

DDG has sold its information to advertisers. They also leak passwords.

Unfortunately there are no alternatives for DDG or Google. You could try using Tor or something over them, but DDG will probably leak your info anyway. tl:dr; DDG sells user info and passwords.

>zmap
Interesting.

Will I be able to use my web browser on local host to have a web search engine?
I really like my searching to be fast and I like picture searches.

To clarify I'm interested in something that will search the web and create a database for me that I can then use to search for whatever I want.

Think of it like about indexed search for desktop the database can be out of date and the updating can take a lot of time however I still can use the old DB to search for whatever I want.

I'm not interested in searching for cat pictures and getting the results after 5 days.

the database can take days to complete etc.
And I think having something on localhost will be the best solution since the browser can access it and work with it like every other website.

Is there something like this?

I believe anonymous posters

>implying hate speech laws haven't been implemented in most countries
>implying everyone is american
>implying gubmint gonna send you to prison for using duckduckgo to search for normal people things
go back to Jow Forums if your political/social/whatever ideals are so extreme that you're worried about being arrested for hate speech after googling them

I dont know why is Jow Forums so far behind /tech/ on an old ass topic like this
Use startpage or searx

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because none of those points are convincing

>If you post things like wrongthink you must be a Racist Nazi so says BigSister
You can't make this shit up!

Then use it, who am I to stop you

searx is really good
kinda sad searxes meta search has been down for weeks

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>he's an unironic 1984 reactionary
you can't make this shit up! I don't trust governments not to be populists executing "the will of the people" however stupid it may be, but you're paranoid. shoo shoo, back to facebook's conspiracy pages about how you're being oppressed by the evil liberals who hate everything that isn't LGBT. and no, far right extremism (because we all know you're talking about Jow Forumsitics) isn't 'wrongthink', it's abhorrent garbage that led to the single most violent war in human history, but you're too retarded to see it. calling for a race war isn't normal, but in a rural alabama trailer park it is.

note to readers: he didn't try to defend a single point on the misleading screenshot he posted

Ohohoho let see how my facts of wrong think stand up.
>the single most violent war in human history
And what is this supposed magical
>the single most violent war in human history
supposed to be?
Can you name it?
>calling for a race war isn't normal
Nice injecting words into my mouth, the funny thing is Jow Forums is not calling for racial extermination its CNN and friends.
However its wrong think to point this out.

>calling for a race war isn't normal
You get bonus Orwellian points for only obeying what is normal whoever and however defines it.

>You get bonus Orwellian points for only obeying what is normal whoever and however defines it.
>implying I think race war bad because it's 'not normal'
you're retarded and completely detached from reality, I'm not even going to bother arguing with you.

>you're retarded and completely detached from reality,
Nice projection.
>I'm not even going to bother arguing with you.
Oh why not? Show everyone how retarded I am and how full of racism and hate I am.

Can you at least namedrop this magical war you are talking about?

>the single most violent war in human history
I'm still witing to learn about this magical war.

Forget about the children blaming the Jews for everything.

The guy is a government shill, and wants to regulate your bits.

medium.com/@yegg/privacy-is-at-a-crossroads-choose-wisely-96bac0644ec1

arguing with Jow Forums is like arguing with a paranoid schizophrenic: your warped retard brains don't use the same basic reasoning as everyone else so no matter how anyone tries any argument will ultimately fall upon deaf ears and they get tired of listening to your 'le i am trolling le libcucks epic style xD' smug self-satisfied argument style so everyone just ends up calling you a retard and not getting buttflustered over some fringe group on the internet. and then of course you'll conclude you were right all along and circlejerk about how le liberals are afraid of debating you. I remember when Jow Forums was about mocking facebook confederate hicks through exaggerated parody rather than just acting like a hick and thereby attracting the people they were laughing at.

>I'm still witing to learn about this magical war.
ww2 you moron, i.e. germany goes full Jow Forums: the musical. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll#Modern

Note to you - he gains nothing in trying to convince you. And it's fucking tiring to tell people the same shit over and over, just to make them CONSIDER your point.

Is that Vladivostok?

>arguing with Jow Forums is like arguing with a paranoid schizophrenic
I love how you classify me to be Jow Forums and you find out how stupid this is after 2 or 3 rounds.

>ww2 you moron
Ahh thank you(I knew it however lets show why this popular folk story is factually wrong).
Now can you say what was so magically evil about WW2?

I will speed this up and interpret the abortion of a statement to mean
>List_of_wars_by_death_toll#Modern
>WW2 bad because WW2 has lots of people dead
Is this your argument?

Only the problem is mathematics you see WW2 was the mildest and most humane war in history.

Try calculating the deaths based on the total of the population. Because you know exponentiation population growth gives more people and more peoples to fight and more dead soldiers.
(Think of it like inflation eventually even the beggars will be millionaires in the future because of inflation only being a millionaire will be meaningless since everyone wants to be googloplexioneir)

You conflated something about about numbers and violent so are you trying to talk about Hitlers genocide here?
(because you find out genocide is not a war and waring sides of WW2 behaved extremely humanly, extermination camps are not wars however lets try to rescue the malformed statements you produce and give you some help in formulating your own arguments)
Give me something subsistence.

Are you talking about Hitlers extermination camps?

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Why should I defend these point when they're already sourced, not only a pic posted earlier in the thread but also on the other chan where I took this screenshot
Just do your own research, im not your mommy
I already spoonfed you enough

>the biggest war was the mildest
Alright, bro

shoo shoo manchild your swamp is calling you

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>I love how you classify me to be Jow Forums
>implying US commies (aka "liberals" aka "democrats") [...] removing all constitutional rights
>UK and many "liberal" (leftist) government
>your whole BIG GUBMINT ORWELL aesthetic
>not Jow Forums

>WW2 bad because WW2 has lots of people dead Is this your argument?
>WW2 was the mildest and most humane war in history.
>because you find out genocide is not a war and waring sides of WW2 behaved extremely humanly, extermination camps are not wars
I'm not going to bother arguing with you because you clearly don't experience emotions or empathy the same way everyone else does you contrarian sperglord.

Yep your avarage person on the streat.
> biggest war
Big how?
Bigg unmbers?

One more time it was imposible to have 10 milion people killed in lets say 1000B.C.E. is the population of the entier world was not more then 1 milion.
They could not have goten these numbers even if they tried.

This is a fact.
Tell me how someone can even get 10 milion people dead if the entire world population is under 1 milion?
Try answering this.
To get to 10 milion killed in a war if you have only 1 milion peopel total on the planet? Everyone whould need to be killed 10 times.


Also why are you conflating mildnes of a war with numbers?

Not him, but I think Jow Forums would interject you and tell you that the most violent event was either Cultural Revolution/Great Leap Forward in China or the Ukraine Hunger in USSR.

I mean, Jow Forums is retarded, but people would ignore all things they point out, while some of them are worth reading, at least. There is no good/bad side in politics.

>BIG GUBMINT ORWELL aesthetic
Translation:
>Criticizing the government makes you Jow Forums AKA evil white supremacist KKK Hitler RACIST!

And
>ORWELL
What are you saying George Orwell was Jow Forums or what?

Fun fact - Orwell was socialist.

Only why is he thinking everyone who referes to 1984 is Jow Forums ?
>Orwell was socialist.
Shh let him dig himself into a bigger hole it will be hilarious for me to point out facts to him.

>What are you saying George Orwell was Jow Forums or what?
retards like to use his rhetoric about facism to justify their twitchy brand of internet libertarianism/"i'm not a facist bro [doubt.jpg] but censoring facists makes you a facist so you're the facist for not tolerating facists #brilliantlogic"

I'm glad you understand proportions, user, but he said most violent, and most people understand that to mean most casualties. When you call the most deadly (highest death toll) war in history mild, people wonder how your parents managed to raise such an incoherent edgelord.

Actually I think the book 1984 transcends political lines(it can equally be applied to Nazi German and Stalins USSR or even the inquisition) and represents a totalitarian state of total brainwashing where the population reacts to whatever the party tells them to believe in regardless how self contradictory it is (“We've always been at war with Eastasia” and ”We've always been at war with Eastasia”).
It represents a willingness to demonetize the enemy and instantly dismiss all un-approved political statements as wrong think and from the enemy.

I think you can appreciate it since your behavior is strikingly similar to the one displayed in the book.

because you come off like a "I'm not a facist, I'm a classical libertarian" ww2 denialist redneck. it's not necessarily what you say, it's with how much grace and self awareness you say it.

Let me elaborate on this by skipping about 3 or 4 paragraphs of baiting the opposition into saying insane things for me to point out.
What do you think is worse
A) Getting burned alive, broken on the wheel
or
B) Getting a practically painless death in a gass chamber

You see there are far worse deaths then getting humanly gassed.

Because you are conflating Hitlers genocide with WW2 you can also try to answer what is worse
A) Riving in agony for hours after getting disemboweled or having multiple bones broken
or
B) Daying instantly from a explosion or comfortably blading out to death from getting shot
Because this is the WAR part of WW2 and the previous one was the genocide part.

>ww2 denialist
The fuck is this even suposed to be?
Me not beliving WW2 was real or what?
Its not my problem your writign is compelat shit that can not even be interpreted into anythign sane.

Have a video explaining this for you.
youtube.com/watch?v=sjT4HlNJNgI
Concentrate on cruelty in history and wars. These are facts you only can remove by destroying most of history.

I'm still waiting to learn what was so magical about WW2 and possibly Hitler if I interpreting your abortions of statements correctly.

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Hey bro, I think you replied to the wrong comment. I never mentioned the camps. U know most of the deaths were Russian and Chinese civilians, right?

>what's so special
60 million casualties. A new record :)

you never answered the questions about
>most violent
And
>most violent
is in
So answer A or B for war or for genocide your choice.

>WW2 was the mildest and most humane war in history.

I can't be bothered to watch that video but I have a feeling his argument will boil down to "prisoners of war don't count as casualties and something about how D-day was mild because ww1 nerve gas and medievil weapons were cruder"

>60 million casualties. A new record :)
Yes and ???
Why are you calculating it nominally?
And not percentage based?

Answer this question: >One more time it was impossible to have 10 million people killed in lets say 1000B.C.E. is the population of the entire world was not more then 1 million.
>They could not have gotten these numbers even if they tried.

Its all a byproduct of population growth not because WW2 was magical or something.