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Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700- If you have a $2000+ budget >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 580/590 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >RX 570 - No point in getting anything less as it's so cheap lately >Vega; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >Waste money - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >FOR GAMING START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use Can we stop this already. Everyone knows its a huge bullshit. You can't play any half decently demanding game with 8gb.
Brandon Young
pcpartpicker.com/list/6jjFq4 help i know 2070 is probably a bit much, i can switch to 1080/1070ti just the price was good >Gaming >1200-1400 budget
I get that, I'm not paying the priceon there though. I've got a better deal with a friend that bought it and completely changed his build before using it
Noah Allen
Reposting: Is 25in too small for 1440p? I could pick up a new acer g257hu for 190 bucks right now and it seems like a good deal. I have a 1080p 24 inch TN right now to game on and I wanted to get a second monitor for the utility of having more screen space and not having to switch inputs back and forth on my main. Don't really need high refresh rate or anything, couldn't run games well enough and it'd be too expensive with IPS for the viewing angles
Found a used MSI GTX 970 (the red accents one with the gamery aesthetics) for 150 euros. Is it worth it or not? Black Friday deals are shit in my country by the way. Prices are very high in general.
Julian Barnes
Totally fair, you gon enjoy your build
Big F if youre focussed on production but yeah get this ram instead
Kayden Reyes
No. Post ur country theres no way its that cucked that seemed like a good deal to you
Gavin Morales
fuck me, for the first time in my life I wish I was a mutt instead of being a yuropoor
Luis Howard
Greece, 1050Ti starts at 160 shipped. 1060 3GB is around 210 shipped.
Carson Young
>greece Pay debts instead of buying gpus
Jeremiah Scott
>mostly a cope I gave the same recommendation a week and a half ago when people found 1080Ti which were $200 cheaper than usual, but only for a blower.
QLED are an okay option. Especially for 1080p as 1080p really lacks the good AHVA options. But for 1440p, there are lots of good VA/AHVA options. LG 32GK650F-B (New Au VA) Acer ED323QUR Abidpx (VA, curved) Pixio PX277h ("HDR", but not a proper spec like HDR400, and AHVA) And the best SDR monitor for gaming without sacrificing for shitty color is that Mbest monitor. Nixeus 27edg is still good for that as well if you find it cheap.
Isn't the A400 like utter dogshit? And with SanDisk, I think the minimum model you should be looking at is the Ultra 3D. Why are you trying to skimp so much on the SSD?
>Is 25in too small for 1440p? I could pick up a new acer g257hu for 190 bucks Anything around 24-32 is going to be fine but will change how far away from your face that you put it or how you do DPI scaling for it to be comfortable.
Suggest a better rewording for what 8Gb is okay for instead of just complaining? Make the OP next time yourself? It was well past the bump limit.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/6jjFq4 Dont' buy the fake 2070s with failed yields. Their 0.1% minimums, even for a good model like the Black, can be 20% lower than that of the real 2070s. And in some cases when you try to overclock the fake 2070s to try to match the real one, you get WORSE performance than the fake one was to begin with. Fucking don't buy this garbage. You are much better buying Vega still unless you miss these sales.
Nathaniel Reyes
8gb- enough for web browsing and indie gaming 16gb - must have for AAA gaming and heavy use Here now put that in next op or I'll find you
Isaiah Scott
2600X/2700X is so close to the 8700k or better in DAW benchmarks I've seen that the only difference you'll see is placebo. You're just wasting money. They're both massively better than the 7700k was, and people only had minimal issues, in some cases, with the 7700k. I'd go with the 2600X there.
They were really bad in like 2015, 2016. Super high fairly rates and bad noise. Seagate updated all the models in 2017, though, and they're barely worse than WD now while being way cheaper.
>3000 CL16 This is garbage. I've seen 3000 CL15 for $110. Well worth $10 more for getting RAM that's the minimum you should be getting However for non-gaming, this $100 kit would be good actually.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/V4KrnH >I'm attached to a 1070Ti >a shitty 1070Ti with a cooler that's as bad as a blower >6 threads which can't manage 60fps minimums in some games despite all the money you're paying for it when you can get a CPU that gets 60fps minimums in everything for $100 cheaper Whatever dude. Enjoy those goysync prices as well. It's not like you weren't warned about all these things.
>indie gaming This is such a misnomer. Like Klei is independent, yeah? Oxygen Not Included can use over 6Gb of RAM. If anything, indie games tend to be especially bad as RAM because they're so worsely optimized.
Benjamin Powell
>Dont' buy the fake 2070s >You are much better buying Vega Every day, like fucking clockwork.
ok here you go >8gb enough if you enjoy stuttering and closing every process to open your games >16gb must have for gaming and heavy use Just stop telling people to buy 8gb they gonna regret it
Hudson Turner
I might have to filter vega at this point Its such a meme
start working out instead of being a fat greasy fuck
Brandon Sanchez
Have a Ryzen 2600X and got 2x8gb 3200 RAM. I got an ASRock X470 Master SLI/ac but apparently you need to OC it to use the 3200 RAM? I'm a fucking newbie at this, is that not a big deal or should I return and get another mb?
Anthony Bell
this doesnt even make sense?
Christopher Cox
I realize it's not the best, but I mentioned in another reply that I've got a friend who changed his build and I'm buying the GPU and CPU from him at a big discount. It's new and I like my friend.
Easton Turner
Anyone who can redpill me on this please?
Chase Sanders
thinking about 2 different builds for all round use, is it better to buy first and wait for zen2?
When it comes to RAM, wIth Ryzen 2600 is there a huge difference in performance between 3000Mhz CL16 and 3200Mhz CL16?
Joseph Collins
Hello friends
I was a moron last year and bought a 1080 to mate to my aging 3570k. Well after OCing my i5 is just too old to really keep up and I'm gonna get some new stuff to go with my 1080.
Should I go 9600k or 8700? They are about a $50 difference in bundles I'm seeing and it looks like the i7 is better. I'm gonna carry my 850psu over so I just need a good Mobo and RAM too. All I do is game on 1080p 60hz so I just want a rig that can play ultra 1080 for at least the next 3-4 years
Luis Flores
dud it's just a placebo
depending on what you're doing software wise with your audio production the 8700k runs rings around any non TR4 cpu from AMD, don't listen to and his shill tips.
Asher Morgan
Are there any brands I should avoid for SSDs?
Logan Lopez
Thanks, i figured that on the 2070. I changed to a 1070 ti (or maybe 1080 depending on sales), how is the rest of the build tho?
Liam Diaz
8700k, it's like $330 on newegg if it's still not sold out yet
Luke Moore
So, I already bought everything on this list. How badly did I fuck up?
They're facts of the moment. I'm not sorry that facts trigger you.
You'd be far better off by getting the 2600X. Cheaper and far more than enough CPU for the 1070Ti at 1080p, let alone 1440p. Makes no sense to waste all that money on the 8700k for 1440p. You also won't need such an expensive cooler with the 2600X, and can even use the stock one.
RX580 and 2600/X are so cheap now that I'd do a 2600/X+RX580 build with a better motherboard.
I'm thinking >8Gb - Light use, and enough for gaming if you close your web browser I'm not really highly recommending 8Gb to anyone. 95%+ of builds here are using 16Gb.
How big is the discount...? I'd really just resell them. You can probably get $425 for the GPU and $200 for the CPU, right? They're basically brand new. They are too bad for me to personally use. I can't stand stuttering and like things to stay smooth. I guess others can tolerate it, but you can get better for less.
In synthetics with DAW, sure the 8700k can be very marginally better, but the 2600X is still massively better than the 7700k. i7s were perfectly fine to people for DAW use for years except the occasional samples limit and skipping which isn't a problem on the 2600X.
You need a monitor. You should be working from monitor first like the OP says.
R5 2600.
Nice build except the RAM price (wtf?) and paying retail for windows.
Jackson Lee
>2600X/2700X is so close to the 8700k or better in DAW benchmarks Sauce
Joseph Morris
I mean, the Vega 64 for $400 is pretty worth it at least
Elijah Parker
anyone?
Bentley Cook
>They're facts of the moment. I'm not sorry that facts trigger you. BUY VEGA! It's a fact!
That was with the tax included in the price. I haven't gotten around to updating the other stuff as "purchased". "South Dakota v Wayfair" really fucked me over that Newegg (& Steam) has started charging sales for Kentucky residents. As for Windows, I'm not going to get into another argument about paying for Windows.
Jordan Rodriguez
I found the PNY card on a different site for 499e, couldn't find any other link for the dual fan edition than that in English
Luke Peterson
Can't you just pirate your OS instead of paying $100+ for it?
Benjamin Harris
you can download the windows media creation tool iso file from microsoft for free, there will be a shitty logo on the bottom left thats a bitch (i think) to remove, if you want a real copy later you would have to buy an activation key later on
Brayden Davis
>buttcoin mining for the Vietcong
Dominic Phillips
/pcbg/ is amd shill central but there really aren't that many, maybe 3, but they are really fucking dedicated. getting probably paid by the word count or number of posts replied to.
Caleb Rivera
Sooo whats up with the RTX cards dying? Should i buy or nah? Suggestions for a 1080p G sync 244Hz monitor?
Cameron Russell
lmao that's not even true, hang on while I source you up because I'm not a retard toting opinions as fact
Owen Davis
I should also mention that the build will be done by like next year, so Im not sure if I should buy it now or wait for another sale
Jaxon Taylor
it's not a wide spread issue but that really doesn't mean much if your brand new 850-1300 dollar card has to get RMA'd for the 2nd time.
Benjamin Adams
I want to upgrade my GPU.
Looking for a Rx 580. Which brand do you recommend?
the sources you linked actually say that intel is better, I'm keeping the 8700k in that case.
Nicholas Smith
thinking about buying a 2600 whats a good mobo to go with it?
Henry Wright
how much space does windows 10 take up? I don't think I need more than 120 ssf
Grayson Price
you will need more than 120 for updates, go at least 240, its not that much more expensive
Joshua Morris
B450 tomahawk
Lincoln Cox
>499e Okay so still 150 euro too expensive? What the hell makes you think that card is worth more than Vega64, or almost what 1080Tis cost a month or two ago? I don't understand why people can't do something as simple as looking at benchmarks versus the cost of cards.
Grey market is less hassle, basically legal, and only a few bucks.
Why would you buy them even if they weren't dying?
Uh... so basically you're going to be building next year when 7nm CPUs and GPUs will be coming out? idk, user.
Red Devil GS or Nitro+, whichever is around $210. Or get an RX590 if you actually want the 3rd game.
>not-shit 1070Ti That'd be Vega.
There is the Alienware 240hz. And they're all going to be shit since only TN will run that fast.
I can't tell if you just are stupid and can't read, or are trolling. The 2600X is around 40-60% ahead of the 7700k in all the results.
b450m bazooka or mortar.
>using an SSD purely for Windows install while putting everything you actually use on a slow HDD yikes. People still do this?
Josiah Wilson
>Uh... so basically you're going to be building next year when 7nm CPUs and GPUs will be coming out? idk, user. in january next year just how is the ram for the build
friend of mine told me that RAM and mainboard might be incompatible but can't find any info on that
Nathaniel Reed
What do with my build ? i got i5 6400 and 16gb 2133mhz ram, i get crazy stuttering in all games. Should i sell all my shit and buy a ryzen 5 2600x with 8gb of high speed ram or keep my current ram
Chase Moore
>1080p >1070Ti if you already have Gsync I know you just want to shit the OP with more AMD bias, but what retard actually says you need Gsync when you can reach 144fps with that card?
Evan Kelly
>don't buy vega buy RTX goy >JUST BUY IT YOU STUPID GOY
>$337 for 1800X and X470 Killer board Holy shit that's awful. >8gbs of RAM With an 8 core? Why only 8Gb?
>i got i5 6400 and 16gb 2133mhz ram, i get crazy stuttering in all games nooo 4 threads is all you need. or maybe 6. just get 6! A little stuttering is normal! >Should i sell all my shit and buy a ryzen 5 2600x Yes. >with 8gb of high speed ram Is it 2133 CL16 or CL15? If it's CL15 you may be able to manually overclock it to decent speeds.
That new LG Freesync 1440p 144hz VA that I mentioned at the beginning of the thread is only $300 at Microcenter.
Taichi/Crosshair. Prime Pro if you really want to save money, but no BCLK OC on it.
Oh yeah, all you're doing is filling up the thread with useless filler spam
Nolan Bailey
>Oh yeah, all you're doing is filling up the thread with useless filler spam >not shilling is useless filler spam The frightening look into the inside of a shill.
Robert Gutierrez
Just the regular Taichi?
Jack White
>Should i sell all my shit Blame Intel for changing sockets like retarded kikes.
Jose Campbell
At least the worst of them namefags so he's easy to ignore.
Hunter Robinson
So I'm trying to build a PC for my brother who hasn't gamed on PC since he last played Empire Earth like 15 years ago. Long story short I want him to have a strong PC coming in so he wont have to do much to it for sometime and be able to max most games for a bit.
I went with the vega 56 thinking it'd be cheaper to get that and a Freesync monitor than a 1070 and G-sync or just wasting it on a cheaper Freesync monitor. Feel free to pick it apart though I haven't built a computer from the ground up in like a decade.
