>He chose the programming path
>Not the art path
>He will never draw cute anime girls
Why don't you own a cintiq?
He chose the programming path
Jace Peterson
Connor Garcia
I have a thinkpad x220t that I can draw things on. What are the advantages to one of those things?
Landon Lopez
Pressure sensitivity (Though most machines nowadays such as the surface and ipad pro have this)
Tilt support.
Pen response time.
Proper colour calibration.
Ayden Gray
I like drawing on paper, I'm pretty bad though
Wyatt Morris
Because I own a $500 yiinova thing that does practically all the same stuff, but yet find Autodesk Sketchbook on my phone with a typical stylus more enjoyable.
Dylan Bennett
youtu.be
The x220t has all that.
Christian Barnes
What's a good cheap tablet to get started with?
I have no skill, but I've been interested and have plenty of downtime.
Bentley Reyes
Daniel Gonzalez
>choosing the programming or digital art path instead of the obviously superior electronic music path
I mean...pump out some 4 minute bleeps on a cheapshit midi controller and make money. what's your excuse?
Ayden Gutierrez
tacky
Henry James
>absolutely tiny stylus
>fun parallax
>literally no screen real estate at all
>gimmicky curved edges
>garbage sensitivity
I can honestly say...no. there's no reason to use a stylus on a phone.
Nathan Gonzalez
I miss my note 4.
Ryder Nelson
>colour
kys bong
Carter Hughes
Part of me wishes I could make big monies making porn games on patreon.
Julian Campbell
even you got memed, all you need to be a producer is a laptop with pirated fl and a mouse.
Nicholas Richardson
because I like the advantages of buying other market tablet monitor, notably the money saved while minimizing the risk of breaking.
Robert White
Jokes on you, I’m homeless.
Jace Martinez
I would highly suggest the Huion H610 Pro
While I have heard a few stories of people having trouble with theirs, mine lasted 4 years.
It has a good feature set and has good bang for buck working space.
Jaxon Phillips
>programs AI that can draw better than an artist
pssh... nothing personnel, kid...
Nolan Bailey
Yeah, but that's just a lot more time-consuming and joyless. It's much more fun to play the keys, twist knobs and strike pads physically.
Austin Brooks
>How would YOU like to draw on an index card with a toothpick for only the low low price of $1,000?
Samuel Nelson
>I like playing with toys
Easton Rogers
If you can make your job both more efficient and fun simultaneously, why not?
It's OK to have fun, user.
Blake Young
i like playing with toys
most people do
John Sullivan
I gave up on a lot of things that I used to love doing because I no longer loved doing them. Depression does that.
Brody Ward
>I like to sit at my laptop in pitch-black darkness and click in notes manually instead of playing them live and editing afterwards, the end result often sounding repetitive and lazy with little to no variation
>
>NO FUN, NOT EVER
Adrian Martinez
>He will never draw cute anime girls
Drawing by hand would be obsolete soon
make.girls.moe
Yes you'd code a waifu
Matthew White
I actually make money
No, that's a lie, I'm in research. Send me lolis?
Colton Ross
nice
Hudson Wood
You're better than me.
Gabriel Mitchell
Xavier Walker
tfw no 256 version of amaryllis
Zachary Cook
>that fucking reponse time
Disgusting.
Parker Powell
>6"
>even more expensive than overpriced shits like Surface Pro, iPad Pro and cintiq
Yikes
Christian Ward
>Drawing on a 6" display
Perform not living.
William James
The only problem is that the pens have really shitty pressure sensitivity unless you get a fujitisu Lifebook pen which is compatible with Thinkpads but still fails in comparison to your average drawing tablet. The dude is also using Sai with the stabilization cranked up which is a major crutch for artists.
Easton Mitchell
Spotted the Gearbest sales representatives. I will never buy a Xiaomi phone.
Aiden Jenkins
>Why don't you own a cintiq?
I had to settle for a knockoff because I'm not made of money.
Robert Wilson
>ywn have any meaningful artistic ability
>ywn be able to draw whatever cute and/or lewd images of your waifu however you please
JUST
Eli Brown
22HD masterrace reporting in.
Though I don't draw cute anime girls.
Not enough money in that.
I'm drawing furry porn for money. Working on a 200$ picture at the very moment and I have about 16 of these in the commission queue.
Just pick up the pen and draw every single day.
You'll get the hang of it in about 2-3 years if you just keep at it. Starting is always hardest part, but it gets easier once you get past the basic technical stuff.
Gavin Smith
This is a thread talking about proper pen tablets. Not normalfag toys. Take it to your smartphone general containtment thread.
Jackson Martinez
>he fell for the art meme
Enjoy having an useless degree.
Nathan Bell
Note 9 is a proper pen tablet. It uses Wacom tech that's easily better than the one on the Surface Pro.
Julian Garcia
Drawing anime girls is easy af bro.
Dylan Collins
>needs a degree to draw
The retard store called, they want you back.
Chase Williams
I use a Huion Kamvas GT-191
Good enough for me.
Jack Harris
iPad Pro is the best device for all of this.
Cameron Martin
>a 6" curved screen running on a smartphone is a proper pen tablet
Cringe.
Gabriel Rivera
>not drawing goblin slayer
Andrew Hughes
>drawing seaonal anime characters
Jacob Adams
You're not fitting a X220t in you pocket.
It's not like people don't draw on A5 paper pads or anything, right? It's perfect for drawing on the train and shit and you can pan the canvas.
Asher Flores
that looks like shit you need training in body morphology and proportions
Joseph Gutierrez
I've been out of the loop on anime for a bit. Last show I watched was GGO.
Ethan Ramirez
>deviantart.com
How the fuck do you get away with drawing that shit on DA?
Also, not hard to make a living through commissions if you live in Chile.
Brandon Murphy
but i read the manga
Ian Campbell
Image came from google m8
Justin Stewart
Lets see your cintiq then, shitposter.
Charles Martin
How the fuck do you actually get money for this? How do you freelance and whore yourself out
Sincerely guy who knows music and not much else
Gavin Collins
Austin Anderson
>anime girls
good, nobody cares.
now if they were cute trap boys, with programming socks…
Lincoln Jones
The source for this is so fucking disappointing and boring
Landon Perez
Cintiq is a overpriced meme and most artists stick to the biggest Intuos they can afford.
Drawing on a screen is actually a disadvantage in some cases.
>Ex: Hand gets in the way of what you're painting
Oh and the Thinkpad tablets use wacom technology so they have great pressure sensitivity and pen response time. Better than the ipad """pro."""
I think most just lack tilt, colors aren't super accurate and a 12" screen is a small drawing surface.
Based.
Being a competent mathematician, artist & philosopher is what we should ALL be.
We only live once yet most of us choose to live constrained lives. Specializing like members of an Ant colony.
Brandon Roberts
agreed
Jaxson Jones
Liam Long
>a piano is a toy
Woah, I guess Mozart was a toddler all along
Angel Hall
Well he did write his first song at 5.
Juan Miller
>>programming vs art
Combine them.
Xavier Lopez
Game development?
Jaxon Scott
games aren't art
Gabriel Harris
How are they not?
Easton Anderson
Sure, but "full stack" game devs ( especially indie game devs) are both artists and programmers. Some games depend more on the developer's skill as an artist than a programmer or vice versa.
Evan Williams
Artists are basically the same as spoiled children at this point.
Every artist I know is not satisfied util they have posted their work and milked it for likes on multiple social media, and the mindless crowd is happy to feed their ego.
Meanwhile, every programmer I know embarks on a personal project for the project's sake, and rarely reveives any recognition at all.
Jaxon Anderson
They contain art, but they're an interactive entertainment medium, not art.
Jose Garcia
cute
Levi Diaz
Hmm. Maybe when I graduate I'll pick it up.
Bentley Lewis
iPad Pro is a great tablet, but not great for music production beyond what you can do in Garage Band. Good luck using any of your favorite VST plugins.
Brayden Campbell
>Study art instead of stem
>Get job in the design/product part of a startup
>Literally my entire job is deciding what a whole team of a STEM grads spend their work days making.
Samuel Hall
>interacting with art is not art
Xavier Bennett
I dunno where you've been this past decade but Programmers, "coders" are 10x more obnoxious than the typical social media artist.
Joseph White
You could offer to score video games, short films, or if you're really unlucky, YouTube videos. This also isn't so bad but it can be a bit soul-sucking sometimes. It's impossible to get started because everybody wants you to have an extensive resume to get a feel for what you sound like, but once you get the ball rolling it's OK.
Basically, it all has to do with relentless shilling and being OK with the hot sting of repeated rejection. Play shows at local venues all around town very frequently. Make friends, build a network. Release split EPs. Work a second job until you're absolutely sure you're making enough to support yourself with just music.
Juan Scott
Does Kevin MacLeod even make money?
Luis Smith
It's the future, user. Embrace it.
Jonathan Nguyen
You're pretty good
t. snake
Nathaniel Wilson
is there any art profession more cucked than being a musician
seems like the internet has made it even worse for people than it was when record companies stole all your money
Cooper Ward
>practice practice practice
>start writing and producing your own material once you feel confident enough
>pick an alias. ensure it's memorable and not taken or likely to get confused with another act very often. or you can just use your name, but most people just have boring-ass unmarketable names.
>set up a bunch of social media profiles. make sure your handles are consistent across platforms so that people don't get confused.
>book a shitload of shows. like, a lot.
>>but also do your research. a lot of venues will try to make you pay to play there instead of the other way around, or have a bit of a reputation for ripping people off. avoid those, avoid drama.
>just play your material at those shows. have fun.
>release some stuff on Bandcamp or wherever.
>contact people who are willing to design album covers, merch and posters for you. a surprising amount of your money will come from merch, believe it or not.
>after a few years, maybe some guy who works for a minor label might catch you. maybe not.
>>don't bother sending unsolicited demos to any label at all. they throw out anything you send them. a lot of them actually state it on their website somewhere. if they want you, they'll contact you.
>...
>success? or failure. most likely failure. if you're happy, who cares?
Grayson Gray
Kevin MacLeod is a wizard capable of making money appear from thin air. He doesn't need to do anything.
Jackson Reed
>is there any art profession more cucked than being a musician
painting. if you want to be a musician, at least you have somewhat of a chance of sustaining yourself as long as you're ok with living a modest, tiny lifestyle.
being a painter is just asking for homelessness and regret.
>seems like the internet has made it even worse for people than it was when record companies stole all your money
eh, to be honest, nobody has ever made money from record sales alone. it's always been that way, it's just that only now are we finally starting to realize that trying to wring money out of sound waves is pointless, especially since you can give people those soundwaves without them being contained in any tangible medium. musicians and labels alike are basically just throwing their hands up and saying, "aight, fuck it. you can have the music for free. but you gotta pay for live shows and physical cds/vinyl records still"
the music is more or less an ad, the shows are the actual product.
Luis Watson
>tfw too shit at drawing to ever fap to my own creation
Nathaniel Edwards
Single gamedev is pure pain my dude. Assets and programming is breddy hard, and I always wince when I hear: "Hey user, how's that game going? Ya got a demo or something?"
Aiden Ortiz
why would you? also fapped to mediocre drawings like Trampararam so who cares
Isaiah Lewis
keep drawing till you can draw something good enough to jack it to
Joseph Powell
Nobody cares about painting anymore though
People geninuely care about music but nobody can ever make any money off it
Jose Howard
Just don't tell anyone. Don't tell anyone, don't show anyone until it's nearly finished, showing your unfinished games to people is usually more negative than positive
like "so whats it's called"
"why are the graphics so bad"
"you spent all this time and THIS is all you've done?"
it's not worth it
Nolan Flores
I did this once.
>Draw draft on some paperr
>Scan it
>Import it into clip paint studio, draw it, fill it in
>Think it's good, Fap to it. Still unable to see my mistakes
>Cum in 3 minutes because I'm tired as fuck
Not worth it
Alexander Campbell
unable to unsee*
Grayson Parker
Yo user, I've practiced my ass off for a few years and I can finally draw pretty good. How do I make money on my art?
Justin King
>it's so hard being a dev, I mean people will be mean to you!
lmao, thanks. Knowing devfags are so insecure will just make shitting on your garbage even more satisfying
Jason Cook
1. Setup patreon, give backers one week earlier access to your art. Still push your other work anyway to attact new people.
2. Take comissions
3. Make sure all your art is porn.
Thomas Brooks
Let's see your best Yui first.
Andrew Campbell
There's a difference between being mean and lack of understanding