/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Libreboot-compatible models:
>T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500.

Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series
>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0
>T440s - best price/performance ultra portable
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)

Upgraded models:
>X210 - X200/X201, i5 8250u quadcore
>X62 - X61, i5 5250u
>T70 - T60, i7 7700 hq
IPS displays, USB 3.0, m.2 x4, mini dp, no
forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117


Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support


>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org

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lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-T580/p/22TP2TT5800
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Any thoughts on A485/E485? Want that APU life to have enough power to run some 3D gaymes and maybe virtual machines which I assume is a crapshoot on the old Intel dual core models

I have some doubt about how to know if I can replace the cpu on my laptop. It's an intel pentium t4400 and the socket is a PGA478. Is it possible to upgrade to something better?

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Sockets are made to be incompatible with each other. Blame intel

but I can't put a better cpu in this socket?

I know ThinkPad mainboards can be swapped between same-chassis-different-year models. Can the same be done between A and T series? Eg. putting future A495 board in a T470 provided they don't update the chassis just yet?

That is correct. Intel changes sockets with every upgrade.

yeah if you can find a model that's compatible with that socket and chipset

So, how is it possible to change cpu on t440p and t430? What I have to look for, exactly?

They briefly had two models of a CPU that used the same socket. It was only one possible upgrade. They don't do that anymore.

What is your chipset?

the T9300 is probably as high as you can go if your chipset is 965 based.

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can my t420 only handle certain read/write speeds? in other words is my samsung evo gimped bcus of t420?

F-...Father?

2.5 inch slot supports sata 3 so you'll get full speed

What's the one to get with the best specs

who is that faggot?

p52
it's expensive.

Okay, how about for under $400

yikes

:3

don't @ me ever again

:3

just got the t580 for $1400 down from $1900
lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-T580/p/22TP2TT5800

i7, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd

how'd i do

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depreciation is a bitch

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hoping it lasts for the next decade desu

no guarantees on a decade but it will be a long while before there will be a worthwhile upgrade avaliable

it'll last you much longer than that. Pretty future proof. I'd just never recommend buying a new lenovo

Whats a good cheap think pad if your trying to fuck around on unity.

W530

I want a laptop that is can do this: browse the web. Play DotA2. Pay bills. Watch HD porn. Light Photoshop work.

What do you fa/g/s recommend?

>P52 no longer has expresscard slot
why would they get rid of this? it makes it easier to have an EGPU

modern egpus use thunderbolt

Comparing some of the main memepad resolutions
I don't how to deal with sub 1080p anymore, my W520 has completely spoiled my eyes.

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That requires one f those completely useless "enclosures" that sell for over $100

i bought a x200s with a 1440x900 for 50 buck. it's missing a keyboard bezel and a keyboard and battery. i think i'll put the screen on my x201 and maybe rebuild the x200s. i wanna libreboot it but my soldering skills are shit and i dont want to ruin the board

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>50Hz
ouch

not that user yeah its good for reading text because it has a pretty high PPI but useless for video or games, it's not like I would watch anything on it, the screen has such a pathetic gamut it might as well be monochrome.
I like it, but not as much as a decked out X200.
don't even bother. It's not worth it and libreboot doesn't even properly support the graphics chip.

> libreboot doesn't even properly support the graphics chip
what do you mean by that?

so the hate and outcry the ThinkPad 25 got is just proof that the "classic" design is garbage and no one wants it

I'm looking at getting an X220 to go with my newer ThinkPad, is there anything I should know/look out for?

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Any Lenovo shill on here will to give advice? My budget is 400

This any good?

Lenovo T520 - Core i7 2620m @ 2.70GHZ/8GB RAM/250GB SSD/Webcam/Win 7 Pro/Good Battery

$250

too expensive

How much should it cost?

I was thinking of getting the x1 extreme those specs are elite but unfortunately so is the price.

Is there anything comparable? Want to do lots of virtualization and some gaming. Lightweight would be great but it's not a deal breaker.

Hey I dont really know anything about computers but my dad needs a new laptop for emailing other oldfags and streaming porn. Will the T430 be good enough? Just trying to find him something cheap and functional that wont break easy.

nothing. you acquire one at an estate sale or in the dumpster of a company offloading old machines. This is the only valid method of acquiring a Thinkpad.

T430 would work but the stock screens are dogshit so maybe look at the T530 or T440s (or newer) if you want native 1080p and good screens. Unless if you hate your father and want his porn to be washed out, low-contrast garbage...

How hard is it to upgrade for someone who's never been inside a computer but routinely does power tool repair

not hard at all. All thinkpad maintenance is very well documented in each model's hardware maintenance manual.

Cool. I think ill get him that see what he thinks and upgrade it as needed.

there was nothing classic about the Thinkpad25. That's who folks hated it. It was a modern T series with a different badge.

s/who/why/

t430

Lenovo W510 Core i7 8GB Ram 320GB HDD Win 10 Pro NVidia Quadro FX 880M Win10 Pro for 500 is that good?

The T430 is good if you are going to put the time into changing it, the t420 if not.

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I don't know why win 10 matters, but no that's a horrible deal.

I'm mainly going to be using it for programming and messing with 3D stuff.

Oh I'm trying to find a decent cheap laptop to experiment stuff with, any ideas?

T440p

Refer to T430 if you're going to put in the old keyboard, t420 if you don't want to bother with it. You can get either completely work for ~$100 U.S. or cheaper if you get lucky. If you want a bit bigger get a t520.

Where did you get that screen?

ebay. The screen is about $60 and the chink adapter (that works perfectly for some reason) is about $70.

muh keyboard though
honestly it’s garbage style keyboard
7 rows is too much and just takes up too much space.

Alright I found one with these specs for 200. Lenovo ThinkPad T420 14" LED Notebook Intel Dual Core i7-2640M 2.80GHz 8 GB DDR3 RAM 1 TB. That should be more than enough right?

What's the biggest game that l can play on my X60?

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Everlasting Summer, mami friend .

>game
Fuck off manchild.

GRUB2 or SeaBIOS as a payload? I'm leaning towards GRUB.

Since writing a grub.cfg is a pain, I extracted the one Libreboot uses and compiled it.

Now, it's just a waiting game until my Pomona 5250 clip arrives.

is t400s a meme or is it worth it?

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I kind of want to buy an older ideapad, they look comfy in a stupid way

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Thoughts on the X380 Yoga?

is this legit? dont want to get CHINKED

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Any mad lads using W10 on their T420? I was using it a month ago, and kept getting a power state driver failure that caused the computer to crash. I really want to go back to using Windows, but there's no point if there's no solution.

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gaymerfaggot.

>had a bunch of x230s I was looking at on newegg a day before thanksgiving/BF
>was busy during those two days, could not shop
>check after
>everything sold out
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

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A T60, how much would you pay?

Sorry. Not a T60. Which is it that looks like a T60 but is Lenovo and has red dot on ThinkPad.

Looks like R500, but has a row of buttons on the left edge. Which model is that?

How much can I sell a t420 with an i7 and nvidia card but no hdd or keyboard for?

MATE ?

Is this the best model of the X220 available? How many versions are there? Anything missing here?

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What ThinkPad does moot have there in that picture?

need something that can multitask and play games

Just installed the aliexpress 1080p mod with an ips panel in my t430. Works flawlessly, replacing my w520 with that currently moving files over.

How much expertise you need to replace the keyboard in the new models? I never done anything like this before.

>fail to get the usb device for the mobile internet work ONCE
>can listen to my family how the linux sucks, for the rest of my life
>user why are you buying this heavy-ass thinkpad?
>linux is only used in america (be europoor)
>Don't you want to try the brand new (and expensive as fuck) laptop/tablet hybrid?

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Neat. Anyone knows if opening it like that voids the guarantee?

>linux is only used in america
what?

Finally rebought my ThinkPad 25 again for a little easier to swallow price from release, $1,120. Selling my ThinkPad T430 for about $350 so I’ll only really be paying $770 for my T25 which makes me feel a little better about it.

Kinda bummed that older ThinkPads are slowly dying. Getting tired of the battery life and it’s just not worth the meme anymore. Used to collect these fuckers and now I’m down to my T430. Why can’t Lelnovo fuck off and go back to the good ole days? ;/

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of course it does

because the colossal failure that the ThinkPad 25 will be used as an excuse to never ever go back

I don’t necessarily think it was shit, I just think it was overpriced and only true to the pre-XX30 era by the keyboard. I voiced my thoughts on it the first time I sent it back and supposedly it was passed onto someone higher up.

I personally just want a machine that had four cores (can live without it though), GPU-less model, and a few LEDs (even if they did something like the MacBooks do with battery indicators). But overall it’s a pretty comfy machine in my opinion, it was just a massively missed opportunity for the people that actual care about ThinkPads.

Yes those are plenty, bt that is still over priced. It shouldn't be more than 150.

If it's 1600x900 then it's worth it, but try to negotiate out harddrive, you probably want your own

What external audio card /g recommended for quality listening music on old thinkpad?