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CPU >CPUs with less than 8 threads have trouble delivering a consistent 60fps+ in some games >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700 - If you have a $2000+ budget >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Light desktop use / if you don't mind closing web browser to free up RAM for games >16GB - Standard amount >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580/590 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >Vega 56; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync >Waste money - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make a build to drive it appropriately
i'm a monitor brainlet so need some help with this would the ViewSonic XG2402 be a good 144hz monitor for my rx 580?
Zachary Garcia
Won't ryzen 2 use ddr5?
Lucas Robinson
I NEED A MONITOR
Wyatt Thompson
Guys please help. I need a 1440p monitor 144hz with g-sync. The ones with TN panels are very affordable. The ones with IPS are pile of money burning expensive. And I’ve used VA with 144hz but I want one without the blur. So please convince me to not buy a shitty TN with it’s annoying viewing angle.
Sebastian Robinson
Not if AMD commits to it being supported on current boards, and there's no reason to think they've rescinded on that.
I have the s2417dg. The best choice I have ever made.
Nathaniel Cruz
And for non gaymen shit? I want a 27" WQHD IPS monitor
Brayden Phillips
AMD already fixed that issue.
Nathaniel Bennett
why not just enable xmp?
Jonathan Martin
Even budget builds go for 3000MHz ram nowadays. Read the op.
Owen Ross
What issue? Stop posting in multiple threads.
Anthony Miller
>goy-sync 144Hz monitor Buy an actual GPU and turn on Fast sync
Kevin Hughes
But without enabling XMP in the bios the RAM is capped at 2666. Yet i don't see why anyone wouldn't just do that.
Cooper Thompson
>try to update my dad's gpu drivers >bluescreen every time reminder not to fall for amd gpus
Brayden Morris
will people ever stop with this shit they went down like 20% over the last 2 months already
Jayden Martinez
Fuck man I’m in the same boat. Seems the acer predator on Amazon is the way to go at $550. But it does have that man child gamer look which hurts a bit extra with the price. This is the first I’ve heard of this. Does it work as well? Can you turn it on and have it work 24/7? Buying for my dad so if it’s idiot proof I will consider it.
Jayden Gomez
Non gaymen, I'd recommend Dell. I have my gaming monitor and then a second monitor from Dell for casual shit.
If I'm not seeing any performance increase, or minimal performance increase but the price is going up, why not just get the most ideal RAM?
Jeremiah Richardson
I will get the Dell U2719D or the Fujitsu P27-8 TS Pro, I guess. But yeah, I won't buy gamer monitors, as the QA and support will be trash, no matter how good the panel actually is.
Andrew Hernandez
Yep, 2666MHz is intel spec (jewdec). Anything higher is XMP (sort of a "premade" overclock), some motherboard vendors even enable it by default. Watch the video of the screenshot you have posted for some clarity. youtu.be/D_Yt4vSZKVk
Justin Campbell
>eu >still 0 decent gpu sales Dead
Camden Adams
two year old ram is more expensive now than the day it came out and, as you know, the day a new piece of tech comes out it is very overpriced so you're paying way more than "very overpriced" right now for ram
Lucas Miller
Realistically when can we expect navi? Will AMD actually offer a full refreshed series instead of 2 new cards?
Bentley Reed
AMD fixed this issue.
Ryder Butler
half an hour ago? because if not they didn't fix shit
Brody Young
This My 380 is suddenly getting blue screens on ubuntu now. Never again.
Anthony Clark
I'm on an i5 2500k and I'm upgrading to current gen Ryzen. You can wait for Zen 2 but it'll take a while and you'll have to pay the full price. You could also wait for Zen 2 and then buy the older Ryzen when they're priced lower and all the memory compatibility has been sorted out.
Camden Thomas
500 bucks for a 2070 on EVGAs own store
Joshua Watson
>viewing angle Why are people turning their monitor 45 degress away from their face when they're on the pc? Also you need TN to prevent blur completely and modern TN panels are decent enough in terms of colour reproduction.
Colton Clark
Watch out, the budget 2070 have gimped chips like the EVGA Black Edition
Ryder Kelly
>Ryzen 2 Misnomer: It's called Zen 2 :), and the cpus will probably be called Ryzen 3xxx etc
Guys please help me. For the last 2 years i have encountered these issues with my rx 470 and no amount of using DDU and reinstalling my os and drivers has fixed them. For one i have NEVER been able to open radeon settings, it just doesnt open. My windows cursor is corrupted and is just a black square. and i get crashes during driver installs and occasionally i experience microstutters. Wtf do i do to fix these ? im getting pretty annoyed with them now
Adam Wright
You don't need to turn your head that far. Most TN panels will have colorshifting if you move out of the sweet spot which is directly in front of the panel, and eye level. Shit with widescreens there is no sweet spot since the panels are too large, and parts of the screen will always look like shit no matter how your head is positioned.
Tyler Ross
>mfw I bought the 24 inch version for 410€ Fucking americans have it so well with prices. Btw yeah it's a nice monitor and once calibrated it looks very cool. The only risk is getting an older version which might have extreme color banding issues
Gavin Stewart
2600/x all sold out.
Should I just add in about $120~130 to get a 9600k
Austin Ward
I'm not familiar with g-sync. Does it have a full usable refresh rate range of 1-144Hz?
Kevin Fisher
Im gonna buy an i7 8700k and theirs nothing you can do about it
Jose Russell
ok i think ill gamble on getting the newst version and return it if i dont get it or i cant get it to look good
Nolan Hall
Are you even sure that it's an AMD issue? It's most likely something else.
Chase Clark
if you want to dude it's your money
Jack Morgan
It's like 2-3 years old now. Don't buy it.
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Asher Martinez
*they'res
Samuel Jones
Get a different GPU.
Nolan Young
>open box $280 woah, you could buy that to resell
Kayden Price
>It's like 2-3 years old now. Don't buy it. What a retard. Find me a monitor that released in 2018 and is not overpriced
Lucas Gonzalez
overpriced? You mean priced currently? Of course older tech is cheaper.
Adrian Stewart
Overpriced as it doesn't cost $1000. There has been no new 1440p 144hz gsync for a while
Juan Wright
It’s a fine deal but I wouldn’t call it an amazing deal. I seem to remember seeing bunch of prices like this the past few days. It’s a TN monitor so that’s why it’s not really too much of a great deal.
Levi Smith
144hz is unnoticeable same with 1440p. just fucking buy 4k
Ian Perry
Hi grandma
Charles Lee
$1000??
What monitors are you looking at?
Ryder Scott
HDR ones. Help me find which new ones you mean that dont cost so much.
Charles Collins
Linus tech tips did a video where they showed the opposite B^)
Landon Diaz
he was under the placebo affect
Easton Reed
Ok, it's been 20 minutes since i've asked for a source on those failing EVGA 2070s and there has been nothing but silence so i assume that was bullshit.
>expensive Z390 motherboard >2666 RAM You are absolutely retarded.
May as well get the 2600 just for how cheap it is. If you planned to get high end, just get a high end board that you can use for Zen2(Ryzen 3)
If that's stable, yeah seems really good. I have a feeling it won't actually boost that high in demanding games, though.
I don't think those Anons were talking about the fake 2070s failing. It's the fact that they perform far worse than advertised. Even the best fake 2070, the EVGA black, still gets 20% lower 0.1% minimums than a decent real 2070 model like the XC Ultra. That's incredibly fucking bad to have that much of a difference between two models of the "same" card (because they aren't the same). And if you try to OC the difference, sometimes performance just gets WORSE. Check Gamers Nexus analysis on it.
The fake 2070s aren't worth buying under any circumstance.
Bentley Howard
Which of these 1060s should I get? Zotac is also selling a mini for $220 and PNY an XLR8 model for $240.
>I have a feeling it won't actually boost that high in demanding games, though. If it doesn't it will just crash the game/computer right? Like since I'm not messing with going beyond the standard voltage limits and I have a high fan curve it won't like cause physical card damage right?
Jackson Young
Not the middle one for sure and at that price the others aren't a good buy either.
Mason Morales
you missed the deal there was a 6gb 1060 for sale on newegg for $170 a couple days ago
Parker Jenkins
Did the RX580 sales end or something? They were crazy cheap for like 2 weeks straight.
I don't know why you didn't buy earlier, like during black friday and leading up to it, if you missed the sales. May as well just not buy now if you can avoid it.
Possibly. But it's more that they don't have fixed clock rates so at times it'll just not boost as much.
Carter Baker
>The fake 2070s aren't worth buying under any circumstance. I just watched the vid. But considering the tiny price difference between the XC and the FTW3 of 30 bucks the latter should be better choice afterall it comes with a 3 fan cooler.
Juan Sanders
>3 fan Smaller diameter fans, user. Come on now. It actually looks stupid how tiny those fans are on the large heatsink, only covering half of it.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what's a good UPS to buy?
I just want to enable RAPID Mode safely, and I'd only have my PC & Monitor plugged into it. Is there anything specific I should be looking for? Any brands to avoid?
Andrew Clark
Is it because it's EVGA or because it's the 3gb model?
I didn't know about the sale until it was over. Regretting it now but I'm hoping someone crops up for cyber Monday. I'm intent on getting the 1060 for an HTPC so I'm willing to over spend a little for the silence.
Adrian Price
here's my poorfag build ryzen 2200g 1 ram stick (8gb ddr4 2400 MT/s) Asrock b450m pro4 500w psu i had for a couple of years now and for the monitor i'll probably use an old samsung tv i had lying around if I plan putting a gpu in the near future, would there be problems? 750ti or a 1050ti looking for any advice on pc building also >inb4 reee zoomer
Jack Richardson
Because it's the 3gb version, I'm sure the AMD guy already told you but the RX580 is now faster than the 1060 6gb so that's worth a look.
Eli Ross
Jesus man just don’t build it. Save some money and it do it right and do it bigger. Or do build it for fun if that’s what you’re into. Prebuilt is a good option for low end stuff especially with cyber Monday.
Jordan Moore
Why are so many people making the mistake of using a single DIMM of RAM lately? You will massively gimp the performance, especially of the iGPU, and make stutters. >if I plan putting a gpu in the near future, would there be problems? 750ti The hell? The 2200iGPU is nearly as good as the 750Ti. And good luck finding a cheap 1050TI. Used, maybe. The RX570 has been cheaper than the 1050Ti despite having around 45% higher performance. >if I plan putting a gpu in the near future, would there be problems The problem is that 4 threads will be the bottleneck in a lot of games even if you play on low settings.
Also yeah, Like the other user said... I'd save more money. A 2200G is really limiting because 4c/4t just isn't enough now days unless you're sure you play games that it's enough on.
>I didn't know about the sale until it was over. There are still a handful on sale for much cheaper than the 1060 6Gb and including the games.
Isaiah Brown
should i get a 650w or an 850w PSU for my builld? partpicker says it will use just over 300w
Ian Myers
is it that much of a fuck up? i just need a pc to work on and play new vegas.
Parker Smith
Reminder high frequency ram is a meme unless you're running a 1080ti level GPU
>3fps higher with a 1070 Seems worth it. Why didnt' they test a 1080 or 1070ti, anyway? 1070 isn't much higher over the 1060.
Camden Fisher
How can I tell what's causing my coil whine between the PSU and GPU if I don't have a spare graphics card to swap out? It wont happen at full load, but during things like menu screens or games that just dont tax the GPU up to full load, somewhat of a medium-high load I guess. The PSU is from my old build, maybe 6 years old, the graphics card is about 3, everything else is brand new.
also i plan on expanding my memory (16gb 2x8 DDR4-3200) by adding another set and possible adding a second video card (MSI RX580 8gb ARMOR OC) for 2-way crossfire in the future
Caleb Evans
How does one get into building computers, I'm dumb and have no idea how any of this works.
Samuel Bell
Is there a name for these sorts of gadgets to fill up empty 5.25" bays and does anyone make them that isn't some no-name Chinese company? Not sure what to search for.
Gonna finally upgrade my 6 year old rig this black friday. Been packing an R9 270x for many years, will the RX 570 8GB be a tangible upgrade? Seems compatible with the rest of my build from what I can tell.
Comes with RE2 Remake and DMCV as well. Thoughts? you learn to fucking read and start with the OP. PC Part Picker and Logical Increments are your friends.
Yeah man your plan is pretty bad and you probably would be able to purchase a prebuilt that offers more for your money with that kind of goal
Cooper Rivera
This shit is so mid-00s
Literally boomerware
Sebastian Reed
You buy all the parts and put them on your motherboard. It’s the next level of lego building for grown men. And that’s exactly the skill level you need.
Aaron Brown
What cpu?
Jordan Bennett
You mean you can't tell which the noise is coming from, or can't tell if it's the power delivery of the PSU making the GPU whine? Ultimately it's the GPU's fault if it's coming from the GPU because the GPU doesn't have filled chokes. Buy a high end card with pricier chokes and you won't get coil whine.
Evan Jenkins
>tfw you bought an 8700k off amazon 2 weeks ago for 300€ +60€ import fee >tfw now it's at 460€