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Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and GPU pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700 - If you have a $2000+ budget >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >Always choose at least a 2 stick kit >8GB - Bare minimum/Light desktop use. >16GB - Standard amount >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >Vega 56; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync >Waste money - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make a build to drive it appropriately
Case >always consider Thermaltake Versa H15 for mATX builds
Odd thread to ask this in, but any good demoscene downloads to benchmark my modern PC hardware? Not really looking for scores or actual benchmark programs, I just want to admire real time 3D demos.
>Am I going to be losing performance if I purchase a 9700k/9600k with no hyper-threading Gaming? Not really. Although there's plenty of evidence out there that 6 thread CPUs experience worse 0.1% lows these days on more CPU demanding games. I'd still choose an 8700k or 9700k over any of the other Coffeelake offerings, but I'd only choose them if I was pairing it with a 2080ti, or maybe a 1080ti/2080. Otherwise a much better value Ryzen won't have any negligible difference with a 2070/1080/Vega or lower GPU.
David Rogers
I just bought a 1070ti to replace my dying 980ti and now crypto prices are plummeting, should I have just waited a few months? Got like $100 from a black friday sale anyway but it would have been nice to have a 1080 even if I don't really need one.
Robert Hernandez
How to buy chinkshit Dhyana zen CPUs?
Nathaniel Harris
Any good deals on monitors? currently have 1080p 60hz monitor and a gtx1080 for literally no reason. found this shit but idk
we going to see GPU deals tomorrow? cyber monday or nah?
Ethan Butler
GPU prices have already normalised. You would've gained nothing by waiting, except having 1070ti run out of stock.
Christopher Walker
We definitely will, and that's totally a question that can be answered objectively and accurately.
Isaac Cox
Anyone? Should be cheaper, no?
Justin Bell
Gaming is probably my main use with other side performances like audio work in Ableton.
I initially wanted to get the 9900k but for the current price of $740 and the subpar gains, it seems like the 9700k is the better option. 8700k if I was on a budget.
blurbusters has an updated list of gaming monitors with good deals.
You wouldn't gain much if anything at all waiting longer. I think the prices are going to stay where they're at for awhile. I'd look locally, you can probably snag a 1080ti for $500-800.
Josiah Sullivan
>and now crypto prices are plummeting the correct thing to do is sell everything you own and buy bitcoin right now
Ryan Torres
buy a 2x x5650 and get 32GB DDR3 ECC for $50
Charles Hernandez
Looking to upgrade the build I've had for about a year and a half as seen here.
I mainly play video games and occasionally stream for friends, but at the bare minimum I'd like to get a new 144hz monitor (using a gtx 1070) and with this whole g-sync and freesync stuff I was hoping someone could recommend something good. As long I can click the circles to the beat with the least amount of delay I'll be happy.
Eli Martinez
Does anybody here have any experience with removing a graphic’s card’s stock cooler? I’m trying to install a Kraken G12 on my 1080 Ti but it appears the fan is plugged into the header with two small backwards clip things and I’m afraid that if I pull any harder I’m going to rip the entire header off. Pic related.
>I just bought a 1070ti to replace my dying 980ti What an extremely minor upgrade. At least you'll give a cheap used 980Ti to someone else.
Jose Gutierrez
You can clearly see it has the two clips there holding it in, yes. Just stick a needle in each side to pull the white part back out of the way of the hooks.
Thomas Jenkins
pussy
Jacob Williams
Hey kid, do you know how to get a chinked epyc CPU?
Ayden Flores
I posted in previous thread and was given some advice, I failed to follow most of it desu.
Case, SSD, HDD, PSU are already purchased and in use in the computer.
The RAM is RGB because it's the cheapest 16gb 3000MHz available.
>Westmere Xeons Based and redpilled I think you're on the path. If you feel as though the IPC advantage of a high end Coffeelake will advantage your setup, the overpriced multithreaded 9900K probably still isn't needed. I'd put the price difference between a 9900K and a 9700k toward high speed ram.
Oliver Watson
Retard
John Young
lol that's literally what I'm doing!
I wanted to get the Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x16 but it fucking sold out!
Caleb Martin
Currently have a TX750 Fan is by far the loudest thing in my system Should I >replace the fan with something quiet >replace the entire PSU with CX450M Both options would be $20 but I'm worried the fan on the CX450M will also be too loud for my tastes. On the other hand having a modular PSU would be nice and I don't need a 750W PSU for my main computer anymore, and it would be nice to have a spare laying around. Wat do?
Sebastian Collins
put sound deadening in your case
Leo Myers
Why pay an extra $100 for the i5-8600k over the R5 2600?
Why would the CX450M be much more silent than the TX750?
Why didn't you get it before it sold out?
Camden James
why not get a high rated PSU with fan stop?
Jaxson James
Sale said it ended in two days. I was still adding things to my cart, like the 9700k
Angel Wright
is there any case that can replace the corsair 200r in terms of a simple, non-windowed case, expandability and ease to build in?
Nathaniel Jenkins
and price of course
James Long
Yes. Downsize from an ATX to an mATX and place into a Versa H15 windowless version.
Adam Nguyen
i bought a 1920x, trying to build a TR budget workstation, what should i get?
Luis Richardson
drive bays etc don't look as nice, but damn it is cheap, still has space for a 5.25" drive. nice shout
Refurbed Zotac Mini GTX 1060 is going for ~$140 if you factor in shipping costs. Is this I good deal? I've got a brand new one in my Amazon cart for ~$230
Xavier Walker
when exactly do cyber monday deals start?
Colton Scott
What's a jannie?
Jace Clark
Anyone here own an EVGA G3 PSU? I've heard the eco-mode is shit because it gets loud with the aggressive fan curve, but how is it if you have eco-mode off? Is it louder than other PSUs?
Brody Cruz
>1050ti Yikes. You can do a build with an RX570 for around the same cost.
More work than I'm willing to put in selling them. The new 1060 comes with MHW and I actually want that game.
Camden Barnes
>Look at Jonsbo cases. They come in silver aluminum and similar styling. cheers user
Brayden Morris
What cooler fits a 2700x well assuming I have a huge case?
Jaxon Perez
my g3 is pretty quiet with eco mode off
Hunter Johnson
Always happy to shill Jonsbo when I can.
The refurb comes with MHW? Seems like a good deal then if you want the game. But it doesn't say that on the store page so I don't think that's true. Just that you say that selling keys is a hassle. Do you know how much hassle repeatedly sending back RMAs is because a refurbished card shouldn't have passed QA and they keep sending you more busted ones?
True Spirit 140.
Ian Harris
Wonder why they're so eager to get rid of it. Rip off the stock cooler and liquid AIO that bitch and it's a steal.
Jaxon Cooper
So it hasn't given you any problems? It doesn't get too loud at any points? I am looking to get it and I would run it with eco-mode off just like you.
Adam Wood
Is the true spirit 140 significantly better than the wraith prism? I want to be like 35c under full load.
Easton Myers
>cannot connect to this network >cannot connect to this network >cannot connect to this network >second display not detected, update drivers online bro >cannot connect to this network :^)
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I FUCKING HATE WINDOWS 10 SO FUCKING MUCH GODDAMMIT FUCK
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>maybe my wireless card isn’t working >try different receiver >cannot connect to this network
>connect phone to laptop for wired hotspot >works like a charm >connect phone to pc for wired hotspot >cannot connect to this network
FUCKING WHY WHY THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT CONNECT TO THE NETWORK YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT OS
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Bentley Reed
I meant the new card. With the game bundle, the difference is about $30 which is what I'm willing to pay for on a new card and 100% less stressful return policy.
I'm wondering that too. I'm guessing these might be ex-mining cards since a lot of people have been trying to get rid of them on Reddit.
is it worth reading up about the difference between a/g/b/n/ac or whatever or are cheap and expensive wifi adapters functionally similar
Brayden Robinson
just install gentoo already user
Luke Butler
Just bought this tall, thin, mother fucker. It's pretty kino, except i wish the dividing plate for the bottom had bigger openings for my AIO to actually fit in there.
>I want to be like 35c under full load Christ there's some people with funny ideas. Not even custom loop watercooling is capable of this without chilling the radiator.
Caleb Baker
Don't get anything that doesn't support 802.11 ac. The other letters are ancient standards that don't matter or we're updated by ac.
John Bailey
pcpartpicker.com/list/zMc4mq Current build mostly for gaming, was thinking of upgrading to an 8700K but not sure if this new gen is entirely worth it, thoughts?
Austin Richardson
This along with other TT cases have always intrigued me. I would've bought one of those budget EK-WB 360A kits instead of the AIO though, and just routed the tubes to the basement.
Jordan Ross
What should I be shooting for then with a semi high end closed loop water-cooler or a high end air cooler?
Hudson Sanders
right, thanks user. looks like USBs are cheaper than pcie, should i just get a random ac USB and be done with it?
Gabriel Hill
I only have 1 chassis fan connector on my motherboard, but I have 3 different sized PWM case fans I want to run. What are my options?
>Wonder why they're so eager to get rid of it Do you not know what refurb means?
>I meant the new card. With the game bundle Uhhh new it's like $220 for that card. Includes a $40 game. That's a much worse deal than a BETTER $200 card including $80 of games. I don't know. You just seem dead set on paying more money for a worse GPU and will just rationalize it in any way possible. So go ahead and just buy it.
>thin That's like over twice the thickness of the PCI slot. That's not thin. Fuck off.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/zMc4mq >Current build mostly for gaming, was thinking of upgrading to an 8700K but not sure if this new gen is entirely worth it, thoughts? 2600/X would be a more sensible upgrade
Connor Smith
>Do you not know what refurb means? I mean for that price. Surely they could swindle somebody for higher.
Kevin Lewis
Only bother if you're going to go balls deep and overclock it as well. You'd need New motherboard and ram just to use a newer cpu and a better cooling system to overclock it.
Can you elaborate? I would like to have a nice PC, and I was told for it's price, the Ryzen was bitchen. But if you have a better, alternative, I would love to hear you out.
USB is going to get you worse speeds than PCIe. If your internet isn't that fast to begin with, then you're fine. If it is though, you might be dissapointed at what you get coming off of a proper wifi chip like what's going on your laptop, tablet, or phone if you didn't get a cheap chink made device.
Jordan Russell
why not get gigabit ethernet and call it a day?
Colton Hill
Depends on the radiator capacity and what sort of clockspeeds each of the eight cores are running, but sustained temps of around mid fifties to mid sixties under a synthetic stress load wouldn't be unusual after an hour with all cores at 4.2ish ghz with reasonable voltages. Gaming temps would probably be closer to mid 40s to mid 50s.
Isaiah Long
No, I agree that the RX 580 is a much better deal, but the 100 watt increase over the 1060 is a deal killer for me. I'm building an HTPC so noise is a big no-no.
Eli Robinson
>install drivers >open wattman >set power limit to a negative percent
Kevin Sullivan
You are going to be bottleneck with your GPU. Even if you upgrade GPU, you'll still be GPU bottlenecked at 1440p most likely. So there is no point in wasting all that money. Top end gaming performance on the 8700k can be better, with a 1080Ti at 1080p or 2080Ti at 1440p. But when you're GPU bottlenecked, the better efficiency and SMT of the Ryzen 5 CPUs makes it a better choice and not simply just better value. Plus you'd have a better platform for more future upgrade options, instead of it being like your intel 4000 series where the best thing you can upgrade to is maybe a 5775C if your motherboard BIOS supports it.
Yeah, they're pretty nice. UMX3 I think is my favorite. Nice and compact.
Real world power consumption in gaming is very different from what the power consumption is in a burn test. And didn't you say you were in America? The power cost can't be significant with how cheap electricity is in America. A little over a dollar per month if you spend as much as 35 hours per week gaming. So virtually nothing.
Power consumption is significant in CPUs where they are agnostic x86-64 components. With GPU there's a lot more to consider like features and software.
Thomas Hernandez
Ok thanks again, fortunately its impossible for me to be disappointed with the speeds since my internet is absolutely shocking big houseshare, my room's miles away from the router
Kayden Scott
AIO are just easier to deal with, i tend to move shit around all the time and a custom loop would be a nightmare to deal with. someone got triggered.
where can you buy these things? the 'where to buy' page on their site lists a dead link for north america
Carson Barnes
powerline ethernet? ac is shit at long/obstructed distances
Jaxson Gonzalez
IT'S CYBER MONDAY WHERE THE DEALS AT
Benjamin Carter
Newegg has like... two of them. I found some importer site last year that had a wider selection just from lots of searching.
>AIO are just easier to deal with It's also >easier to just have sex with other guys.
Sebastian Lee
With the soft tube that kit comes with, it's anything but a drama to move around. They're anything difficult to work with. Each to their own though.
Charles Myers
Alright, am actually looking into this. Had no idea this existed so thanks for the spoonfeed
Ryan Butler
Hope the 1950x goes back down to $450 for cyber monday
Henry Roberts
There's only two real downsides >the cost per performance is absolute shit 100ft of flat cat6e (gigabit) is $17 on amazon, powerline models range from $50-100 >its effectiveness varies based on the power layout and quality of where it's installed shitty old houses or if you're on different a different circuit or if one device shares a circuit with a known hog (fridge, ac, etc).
Your mileage will vary.
Dylan Brown
It's not the cost that's the problem, it's how much noise that card is going to make when under load inside a cramped SFF case with almost 0 airflow besides what's covered by the card and CPU fan. Gaming doesn't matter but I'm into some of the meme h/w decoding and shaders used for video playback and I don't want to hear a low hum from the fans during a quiet scene in my living room.
Julian Phillips
jonsbo are localized in asia and europe, shipping usually kills any reasonable prices you find so be ready to throw a lot of money at it.
Xavier Hughes
i have a 750g3 running a pentium g5400 and a gtx1080 (yes, 1080 - got it through flipping a computer)
its not terrible but it becomes loud when the fan kicks in. if you get a higher wattage unit though you should be fine - however my old AX760i running 4770k-gtx780 was quieter even though more power draw and more often fan usage...
Jaxson Rogers
a pentium with a 1080, my lord. the fucking bottleneck...
Charles Jones
brah what the FUCK is that case?
Levi Long
>file name InWin 901. They make some real nice cases, but the ones that take my fancy are their good value 303 and 305 enclosures. Nicely finished, interesting layout that still works really well and good value. Yeah, yours is one of the rare occasions I believe the 1060 is a better fit than a 580.
Brandon Adams
Oh I missed that it was an SSF case. An RX590 is actually good for that because you can get high end RX580 performance at around 140W. But yeah I wouldn't use an RX580 in that case. And RX590 is only worth it if you want all 3 games.
Why mini 1060, though? There are larger and better cooled cards which should fit, right? What case is this? Most SFF cases can still fit fairly large GPUs, often 265-310mm. Maybe you said the case already and I missed it. idk.
>shaders used for video playback Um they use dedicated decoders for that now days. What old ass card is in there now? Non-gaming or light gaming on my RX580 generally used 15-35W. Are you sure you wouldn't be better served with a 2200G HTPC box?
