IT'S HAPPENING

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I actually just bought a smaller version -- these are super fucking good.

I'm extremely tempted, but I have literally 0 (zero) need for it. I can't think of a single use case for it. What do.

>HDDs are finally obsolete

Don't bother

Wait until you need it, when it will be cheaper.

Yeah I guess so. I do have an i creasing need for more disk storage space, however. Need about 10-12 TB, but single drives are still retarded expensive for me. I don't want to pay more than $150 for it.

Why the hell do you need 12TB?

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porn, what else?

I paid 200usd for 256GB Samsung drive a little over a year ago

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i already have 12TB and it's full.
feels bad being an animu bdmv hoarder

What model is it?

b-but you can always pay for your porn... I can't get off to soft porn bs on sites like pornhub or skankbang.

Personally I like facialabuse, its worth it.

>why would anyone need for example 12TB of drive space

I do, I have a 12TB collection of PDF DOCUMENTS(!)

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It was the Pro, would feel really bad if I had paid such amount of money for EVO

HDDs won't corrupt data when left unpowered for a period of time. SSDs/flash storage media are not for archival, as flash storage literally leaks electrons.

tfw 325 for 512 GB
D:

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>paying for porn
Haha, fucking dumb-ass grandpa

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Enjoy your TBs of volatile storage which you have to eventually transfer to HDDs anyway if you want to archive it.

I download a lot of movies and TV shows. Those take up the most among my other data needs.

The 970 pro or 860 pro? You can literally buy the 512GiB models for less than you paid right now

if i buy a WD green and use it for archival purposes, can i safely put it in a sealed container inside a drawer and be sure that 5-10 years down the line it will be fine?

Are you seeding libgen torrents or what?

what's wrong it? plus that site never fails me
so its a win - win

m.2 for programs
disk for archival bs

Nand prices are supposed to collapse next year. I'm hoping to get a 1TB SSD (to replace my external HDD) for $100 in ~6 months.

Why would anyone be retarded enough to buy a crucial branded SSD?

>not samsung
no thanks

I am a patron of the arts.

If I want to save a huge amount of data (backups, older games, movies & music) I whould still buy a HDD.

Rainbow tables, training data for neural networks, leaked databases, ...

>not samsung

oh thank god it's not from the company that made the crappy 840 and 840 Evo. took them 2y to implement some shady workaround in the firmware

finally!
that means I might be able to afford the 500g soon!

because they just work

Is the Samsung T5 the best portable SSD?

this fag cant afford $209, kek.

TL;DR - if you have a 5 year old ssd thats been in a nas running at 45c 24/7 for years and you remove it and stick it in a warm 40c room for 6 months you might lose data.

It literally says new drives have a 10 year data lifespan in a 30c room.

>shill site downplays the dangers of SSSs
The issue is it's unpredictable, depending on cell wear, operating temperature (lower = worse), and power-off temperature (higher = worse). If you read between the lines, and if you read up on the technology yourself, it says you shouldn't use SSDs for archival.

Might as well buy a HDD instead, because magnetic storage doesn't have any of these problems.

any cheap 10,00rpm HDDs?

pls buy samsung sirs

>says the loser who can't afford a 15TB enterprise-grade HDD that will guarantee data integrity for literally decades because magnetic storage doesn't rot

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that states that an SSD which has already reached it's endurance rating, when stored in realistic conditions, will hold data for 52 weeks when unpowered. a new SSD with minimal wear will retain data unpowered for much longer.

>literally can't read the entire disk before URE event

Gee, magnetic disks sure are good

>look mom i posted it again!

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How good/bad crucial really is?

I can buy a 6TB WD black for the same price as this SSD Yikes!

>because magnetic storage doesn't have any of these problems.
Sure, it doesn't. But what's that I am hearing in the distance? Could it be?..
>click
Uh-oh.

You mean tape for archive right? Tape is king for archive/backup.

I've been booting off one for almost 5 years. It qorks fine

>millions of years later
>alien archeologists uncover an hdd
>don't turn it on, simply remove the platters and read data off of it
>some bits may be corrupted from stray cosmic rays, etc, but still readable
Vs:
>ssd sitting on closet for not even a decade
>data is largely all corrupted as the gates leaked electrons
>"oh shit, did I have any important data on there?"
This is applicable even now, to decades old IDE drives whose data is still perfectly fine, while flash storage like microSD cards dies overnight.

Oh fuck what will I do if the Aliens can't see my japanese powerpoint presentations and porn.

How accessible is this to a consumer? It seems the best bang for your buck archival is blu-ray disc - 50+GB/disk while good for many decades if stored properly. Or paper, which lasts even longer.

Buy used enterpise stuff. You can find tape drives less than 5 years old for around $500. It us hands down the best way to back up and archive. If your data is imprtant to you get one.

5 year warranty not good enough?

Unless you're frequently writing large files, e.g. video encoding server, or frequently accessing many millions of small files randomly, you don't need an SSD for anything but a boot drive. Even then, it may be beneficial to just buy more RAM instead of an SSD, because once a file is cached in memory, it doesn't matter whether or not you're using an SSD or an HDD.

Therefore you can just as easily get an HDD and not be a consumerist idiot. Notice how SSD manufactures don't advertise that flash technology is not a direct replacement for magnetic storage, instead advertising it as a direct upgrade. SSDs are for most people purely a gimmick.

Nope, I want to get rid of my HDD because it's noisy when it spins up.
Just waiting for a real cheap QLC drive I can use for storage.

>millions of years later
>alien archeologists uncover an hdd
>don't turn it on, simply remove the platters and read data off of it
>some bits may be corrupted from stray cosmic rays, etc, but still readable
>Yet I have no access to my data.
Cool.

>No link
Thanks Zoomer

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That's like 25% my entire build budget :(

Doesn't seem to exist op

I don't care about opening times and program start times
HDDs are still more reliable

I hope you have that all backed up

What kind of SSD? NVMe? Has to be, since I got a regular SATAIII 850 EVO with 512GB back in 2016 for a bit over a hundred bucks

>meanwhile samsung NVME has gone up $70 today

My backups are all tape.
So SSD reliability over long periods of power loss is irrelevant to me.

>paying to watch somebody else do the thing that you could be doing yourself for free if you werent such a porn-addicted loser
absolute

Ok, and? Why does this fucking matter?
Only a complete retard would buy a fast drive only to unplug it and leave it. You can just get a 5MB/s drive and archive the shit for 1 month then throw it in your closet.. the amount of time to "archive" something literally never matters. start file transfer and go take a fucking nap.
nobody EVER said
>omg I wish I had a faster drive to backup my data on

>Tfw 500gb 970 EVOs are $100 right now
>Tfw you bit the bullet for them sweet sweet NVMe speeds

I've never had an SSD before in my main rig, either.

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As an insider I can tell you that crucial has a lot of bad NAND chips taken from the garbage or low quality specktek's. I'd only go for samsung's NAND's. No crucial, no micron! Believe me, those fuckers are selling you shit as gold.

Why the hell wouldnt you? It might be the fact that I am 124TB out of 210TB full, but you seem new here.

Well shilled, Mr. Kim!

Open up a crucial or micron and then sand off the black layer ;) maybe you might even have a 2tb instead of the 256 gb you bought

Inb4 SSD """"shortage""" leading to sky rocketing prices for ever

Ie the ddr4 train

8K60fps cp

what about when it comes time to actually recover the data? how long do you want to sit there and wait for a transfer?

They're sort of the upper middle area.

They're not as good as Samsung, but not as bad as say OCZ or fucking Mushkin. Their failure rates don't seem that bad going by discussions and reviews.

Personally I wouldn't really feel confident with one as a boot drive since I'm paranoid but I'd use it as my programs/games drive with a smaller Samsung for boot. $209 USD for 2TB is fucking bonkers.

>
>Why the hell do you need 12TB?
To store Jow Forums meme and webm

>8K60fps cp
If only such thing existed...

Gotta shoot your own at that point user. When you see a demand, fill it.

That is a dang good deal. I bought one a couple months ago, and I think I paid like 400 for it?

Anyway it’s plenty fast, reliable as heck and dang good value.

you know you could just pay for the real thing too if your paying for the fake

>mfw i bought a 1tb evo for 150aud

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i bought an ssd for 100aud like 2 years ago and it 128g
its crazy how in 2 years the price to gig ratio on ssds increased from 1:1 to 1:10

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>2TB SSDs
And I'm still using my 5 years old 240GB ssd on my main machine, and a cheapo 40GB ssd for when I have to move abroad with a fresh install

Actually magnetism fades with time. In a couple hundred years there's probably just noise

>the reason women aren't attracted to you is because you're a porn addicted loser
nice try reddit

Let's be real here.

If you're archiving data you wouldn't just stick the HDDs in your PC. You'd just get one of these.

This is just you being butt-finger-blasted about not being able to afford SSDs.

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Can't wait till we get 16tb for ~$200 then I can put a load in my NAS.

ever heard of streaming services grandpa?

Honestly there are no legitimate reasons to use more than 2 TB.
If you do you are either:
- Hoarding illegal material
or
- A child who plays video games

I prefer this.

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>not nvme
>not samsung
dropped

>"640K ought to be enough for anybody."

Child (adult) who plays video games here.
Now, I'm not a doctor or anything of that sort, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of video and music editors as well as archivists who need much more space than that, yes?

tfw got 128gb ssd for 60$ 3 years ago and it still working perfectly

If you're running a spinning platter, converting to SSD is like getting a new computer. The single best upgrade you can perform. Zero latency because of no head movement is wonderful.

Yeah pretty much

Oh shit. I just noticed something.
There's a GET incoming.

comparable to samsmug

you run software off an ssd , and have hdd's in a remote nas , its not rocket science.

>Wait until you need it, when it will be cheaper.
but the bankers keep telling me deflation is bad...