LE KEKUS-FUCKING-MAXIMUS

how does it even make any sense? AMD didn't force them to overproduce, AMD was elling every time they were asked "crypto was not accounted for, we do not plan to adjust plans for crypto"

this needs an update.
$149 now

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bubble had to burst some day

>when a company doesn't involve themselves in the mining-meme and focuses on designing good hardware instead, and ends up beating a behemoth who was just castrated and removed their own penis in addition
Feels great!

AMD is currently being run by an actual Engineer with talent, while Nvidia is being run by LGBT SJW cucks, so it makes sense that Novidia is failing.

AMD sold to miners.
Now miners are selling to gamers.

What he's saying is people don't want to buy a brand new GTX 1080 when they can score a used RX 580 for a fraction of the price.

holy fuck. AMD is pretty based

why don't he stop pretending to be apple and price GPUs by die size like it used to be?

I can't believe this is real

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everyone with a brain predicted this will happen last year, it was a surprise only for clueless investors

JUST

Now go cry in the corner, at least you have company now with that glue sniffing blue guy, has been there for a while.

I hope the cycle will repeat itself in couple decades when we root for the blue and a green guy to get back in game.

do you see a pattern a coincidence?

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what does based JIM KELLER have to say about this?

>WHAT A COINKIDENK

>crypto miners dumped their GPUs in the secondary market

Can anyone point me to where these deals are so I can finally build a fucking pc

in countries with cheap electricity

Just lurk e-bay/taobao/aliexpress/craigslist, etc.
Hundreds of thousands of 'em.

Intel is facing serious competition right now but just like in the Netburst era 2 decades ago you'd have to be a complete moron and fanboy to believe that they won't bounce back and annihilate AMD again that they'd go extinct.

Nvidia is in a nice place right now, despite 2080ti failures their RTX cards and older Pascal cards are a seller. Those 7nm AMD cards will be a flop and will only challenge the 2070 at best. Nvidia also has 7nm cards in the pipeline and that will no doubt fix and improve what they've accomplished with Turing.

AMD is nothing more but controlled opposition for these two big companies.

So why these day these tow companies consistently blames Ayymd

>but just like in the Netburst era 2 decades ago
You'd have to be a complete moron and ignoramus about the very era you use as an argument which holds no comparative parallel to the current situation whether in terms of management comparisons, fabrication politics, or other points of contention, to actually bring it up in this discussion.

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Reminder: The CEO of AMD is the sister-in-law of the CEO of NVIDIA.

You're all part of their game.

>IT'S ALL AMD'S FAULT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Kikes gonna kike.

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>Netburst era 2 decades ago
Kill yourself retarded zoomer.

He's a chink chong, though.

Intel's 10nm problems are also AMD's fault lol

>intel blames amd "glued" processors
>nvidia blames amd for having too many cards

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>Analysts believe NVIDIA may need three or four quarters to overcome the blow and return to normal growth.
Hopefully we can see Navi within this timeframe and make sure Nvidia can never sell those cards for a profit :)

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Just buy it, ok?

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did he 1v1 him in starcraft?

That would be the perfect market strat to keep selling us their products, maybe Nvidia fucked the 20 series on purpose so AMD could sell the remaining stocks of RX 480 chips since the RX 590 is the same die size and all but supposedly on 12nm, the die seems exactly the same, maybe they are selling the last golden samples that could do 1500+ mhz on the core on a "new" model, and i bet AMD will deliver a good GPU with the Navi series so now they have the market for a while so Nvidia can "catch up" and we are all falling for it...damn.

>seconds later
dude must have 6pooled him
got what he deserved

Fucking nu/biz/ BTFO!

Raise the GPU prices HIGHER!

It's hilarious how Nvidia backed themselves into this corner.
GPU margins are sub 10% in most cases.
Most of their overstock are 1060s and 1050s where margins are even Lower.
They can't lower the price unless they want to sell at a loss.

Turing is priced high on purpose to make Pascal look better.
And it worked, the 1080ti stock is almost completely gone.
But everyone in the sub $300 price point doesn't want a 2 year old GPU that's still at MSRP.

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>But everyone in the sub $300 price point doesn't want a 2 year old GPU that's still at MSRP.

Isnt that why Nvidia sells games with the overprice GPUs to sweeten the deal?

Based Jensen.

amd literally killed themselves and nvidia

it would take atleast 5 more generations to make those huge number of poolaris and pascal gpu obsolete

It's going to be great when Intel comes in.

Damn u ppl. Start buying nVidia gpus so I can get a decent Radeon.

>this time it'll be different

always someones last words when it comes to finance

>AMD
>controlled opposition
Alt+F4 yourself

>this time it will be the same despite one company being managed by an actual experienced and talented engineer and the other sacking half their engineering team and replacing them with "interaction engineers" and such shit
Nah, keep being butthurt. Your dumbshit comparison doesn't have any parallels with the present.

Kek

>*seconds later*

>1080ti stock is almost completely gone
Not in the GLORIOUS Mother Russia, lul. Still very available everywhere.

>16nm 20 years later after the last attempt

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Included game are basically worthless.
Especially for those not using the GPU for Gaymen.

I said ALMOST gone
It's still available for major board partners.

>Included game are basically worthless.
RX 570, 580 and 590 have a bundle offering campaign currently going on with DMC 5, B2R, and...Division 2 (lul). You're full of shit, since this is a roughly 180$ worth in AAA titles, out of which 2 are definite must-haves.

>It's the niggers' fault I can't get no white gf
>nvidia eternally cucked

>Worth $180
They are worth whatever eBay says they are.
In the past free games were sold for $5.
You can't factor full price games into your GPU purchase.
That's a poor Fag mentality.

Anyways, one 580s hit the $150 mark; i'm gonna build another mining rig.

>You can't factor full price games into your GPU purchase
B2R and DMC 5 are upcoming AAA titles which are of very high quality and you're getting that for free in the bundle if you're buying an RX 5xx. You're a fucking idiot, at total firggin' moron, if you think this is not a very good deal at that point. Go lurk up DMC 5 and B2R videos, you underage fagshit.

>another mining rig
>after the bubble already burst and FAD market crashed to shit
Yep, confirmed to be an underage and absolutely immature cretin.

>that glue sniffing blue guy
DELID

>2080ti failures
It's not just 2080 Ti, it's entire 2xxx line.
RTX in on itself is a one big massive snake oil scam flop of a Ponzi scheme.

>Nvidia also has 7nm cards in the pipeline
A roughly 1 year later than AMD, whoopdy-fucking-de-doo.

Nvidia got too greedy and cashed too late into the crypto-craze. They had ordered too many GP104 and GP106 chips when Turing was just around the corner.

They going have to eat the cost one way or another. I'm kinda surprised that haven't attempt to pawn off "artificiality crippled" GP104s as "1060Ti" basically 75% of a 1080 to square out against the recent RX 590.

>haven't attempt to pawn off "artificiality crippled" GP104s as "1060Ti"
SOON™

> Company that bought 3Dfx pulls a 3Dfx

Wow, colour me surprised. It was inevitable from the beginning.

>pulls a 3Dfx
Huh? What?

>>pulls a 3Dfx
>Huh? What?
Pure stupidity and blaming others. They sued nVidia for patent infringement on texturing or something or rather right before they went bankrupt, among other stupid business decisions that burned through their cash (like nVidia having too much stock now).
Obviously nVidia won't go bankrupt, but you get the joke.

>tfw everyone made fun of you for getting an R9 380.
>day after ordering it cryptomining exploded
>gpu prices went up by 300-500 bucks
>lmao
>get excited for ryzen
>get told "user single core processing is where it's at"
>"get an intel user ryzen will be dead on arrival"
>Spectre happens
>AAA game companies suddenly learn how to use more than 1 core

suck it, fags.

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>They sued nVidia for patent infringement on texturing or something
Wait, wasn't that S3?

>everyone made fun of you for getting an R9 380

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>They can't lower the price unless they want to sell at a loss.

I must be retarded since I don't understand how they were selling them for 100+ dollars cheaper over a year ago. How are they now not able to sell them for the same price?

That mindset is why you will always be poor.
I've survived 3 crashes and made enough money to buy a house.
IDK why you gaymer fags think a crash is the end?
What the fuck do you think Happens after?

Stay poor forever nocoiner.

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if amd does nothing else, 7nm can make vega compete with 1080ti

vega was 4-500$ and a die shrink could push it to the 300-400$ range on that alone

now do I want a navi that is 1080ti level new, or a used nvidia gpu with unknown use case? a used nvidia gpu that is also firmly in the not getting real drivers anymore camp, while amd has not had a significant driver fuckup in... nearly 10 generations of gpus?

0/10, kid. You'd need to try way harder than just that.

not the user youre replying to but
>Battlefield V
also he probably is talking about the price of an R9. if he got a forced air one for when they were cheap it would've been a very good deal because they came out about ~3 months before crpytomining went stupid.

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I was once like you.
I just wanted a buy a Hd7970 and play videogames.
But no, Bitcoin ruined that for me so I mocked coiners calling them stupid for falling for a pyramid scheme.
But I grew up and realized how fucking stupid video games are. I then started mining.
I used the profits to buy my own fucking house.

Thank of it this way.
If you dump $2,000 on a gaymen PC, does that PC make you money?
Is that an investment?
No, it's something that loses 75% of it's value in 3 years.
You build a $2,000 mining rig.
Does that make you money over time?
Yes
It's possible to pay off the rig and then use the gains on that 2K PC you want.
Using assets to pay for other assets is how you get wealth.

STAY STUPID AND POOR FOREVER!

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Coins are now worth less than the electricity needed for mining.

>while amd has not had a significant driver in... nearly 10 generations of gpus?

ill take drivers that work over ones that break cards any day of the week

nvidia pulled the ray trace trigger.

they reset the playing field to more or less equal when they came out with something that can barely even do something with ray tracing.

nvidia will fall and won't get back up because now the race is going toward ray tracing over raster, and both companies have a way to brute force a 50 sample real time gpu, its all about who has the balls to do it first.

I really don't know what the fuck the plan is with RTX. Last I heard next gen consoles are slated to roll around ~2020 with AMD APUs (again), so novidia's ray-tracing will be a niche PC thing that fades into obscurity.

nope, even if its amd, look at volta and amd, they are basically the same when it comes to ray tracing, turing should be 10 times more powerful according to octane and their benchmark, but that's that. amd SHOULD be able to make something to ray trace, and their fp8 on the new accelerator that pushes the card to 60tflop could easily be the key to amd pushing some form of ray tracing, as you do not need accuracy, you just need to be better than what we currently have, and if you async the raster from ray, you could easily phenomenal graphics, a bit of gpu fuckery to make it look like its updating real time, and there you go. the next consoles will likely come with gpus that are in the range of 12 tflops fp32, possibly a bit more, and if they chiplet a few very small but very dense fp8 chips, where there you go.

we will likely see nvidia loose the rtx brand and exclusivity though, you can't claim raytracing for yourself.

If you live in a shithole with 15 cents a kw/h sure.
ETH can drop to $36 and I'll break even with power costs.
But that's at current prices.
Investments don't make their money back in the short term.

You will be poor forever with that shortsighted mindset.

No my friend, you will be poor because you keep investing in nonsensical funbucks that you won't be able to access outside of a major metropolitan area, on top of constantly buying into this shit based on a false sense of security and "muh blockchain". If you cryptards are so adamant that your Monopoly money will succeed, then I ask you these questions.
>what happens if a Crypto bank gets hacked?
>what happens when the power goes out in your area and you can't even use your hardware wallets.
>what happens if you try to buy something like a car or a house, but the dealership or private seller doesn't take crypto, or they don't accept the crypto you have?

Delete this goy

>we wanted to enter bitcoin market
>turns out our cards cant compete with amd in terms of pure computational power
>we stocked insane amount of cards
>china crashes bitcoin
>amd already knew this and didnt produce shit
>blames the competition

>overvolted
i mean you must be pretty new if you think that only vega was overvolted...
amd traditionally overvolts them because they dont have enough room to play with speed moron

wait. wait hold on.
so you mean to tell me
>your product being undersold
>when compared to a better selling competing product
is because the company that makes said product exists

well we know nvidia isn't run by jews now. the jews at least have to know elementary school economics to be able to go about their jewish ways.

roommate is from a jewish family and can confirm

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>not the user you're replying to but
Mmkay:

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The final redpill is realizing that Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang and AMD CEO Lisa Su are cousins of each other.
They are clearly jewing up the GPU market together in conspiracy.

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Even if both of them are in the same scheme I'll still buy AMD rather than Nvidia because of Freesync and open source GPU drivers. Nvidia isn't at all equal if you focus on these things. I don't mind if my decision shows up a little in my FPS as long as it's not too much.

>I really don't know what the fuck the plan is with RTX
Literal snake oil scam Ponzi scheme.

Where is my Pepe Lisa Su?

Where are your proofs? Are all chinks same for you, you fucking racist?

babeltechreviews.com/nvidias-ceo-is-the-uncle-of-amds-ceo/

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