So I wanted to start learning java (havent learned any programming language before), but I dont know where to start... I have learned some basics but still get fairly confused with everything... Just wanted to ask if someone would reccomend book/tutorial or maybe another language to start off... Im genuinely interested in programming.
So I wanted to start learning java (havent learned any programming language before), but I dont know where to start...
Luke Wright
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Austin Fisher
You have to develop a feeling for the object oriented programming philosophy.
John Campbell
Thanks man I do appreciate it. Ill keep that in mind xd.
Evan Carter
I allready do get the phylosophy and use of the language... Thats the reason I wanted to get into it in the first place.
Matthew Cooper
OOP is a bag of hurt
Chase Campbell
Unironically I would recommend to avoid Java as a first language.
You have to juggle so many concepts from the get go, to the point it's confusing as fuck. For example, only to write and compile a hello world you'll need to know about: the main entrypoint, classes, imports, static methods, packages, the javac (to compile .java files to .class files), and the "java" executable to actually run those .class files. When you want to have TWO .java files in your ""project"" then you'll probably have to wrangle with the CLASSPATH, which in many tutorials is just glanced over due to their dependence on IDEs.
Instead, choose something like Python until you have a good grasp on flow control structures like conditionals and loops, and basic abstraction mechanisms like functions. At that point, *optionally*, and not before, I would recommend to take a look into other languages like Java, Kotlin or C#. Or any of the other memes.
A good alternative to Python would be C (but not C++), as you'll get to learn some extra low-level concepts that are glanced over (or just ignored) when programming in Python.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH JAVA, then at the very least remember to bookmark this: kevinboone.net
Camden Jenkins
I seriously recommend you start with something more beginner friendly like Python or Javascript.
I learned both langauges prior. Java is a lot more unforgiving with its concepts and requires you understand everything that is happening while Python and Javascript are very flexable/ dont require you to really understand as much,
for example, in JAVA you need to define a type with a varible and that type will have a certain memory allocation or it has to do with the variable being a string/interger/float.
All this matters as it effects your compile speed.
If this seems like a lot then learn python, atleast understand the basics, then you can move into JAVA. JAVA is great but you need to know what youre doing.
Caleb Foster
I learned C++ as my first language. Now python, java like languages are breeze for me.
I recommend you to learn C++ for concepts, Python for simplicity and learn HTML and CSS for websites.
After that if you want to learn more, learn Data Oriented Programming in C++.
Even after that you want more, learn assembly.
Even after that you want more learn Haskell and blow your brains out.
Lucas White
Do not use Java, it is a bad and dying language. Learn python, learn C, learn literally anything else.
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Elijah Torres
>still get fairly confused with everything...
Try Python then. It's like Java but it sweeps complexity under the rug
Christopher Carter
Start with python/js
Familiarize with data structures in C
Then learn OOP with Java
There's a lot of over-engineered corporate projects in Java... but they need maintenance/upgrades and that's how you get a good paying job.
There's Spaghetti code... and then there's the SpaghettiFactory, and you can't forget the SpaghettiDAO
Owen Hill
>There's a lot of over-engineered corporate projects in Java... but they need maintenance/upgrades and that's how you get a good paying job.
You can get a good paying job with any popular language, the job security isn't worth the suffering.
Nathaniel King
"genuinely interested"
"get fairly confused"
you wouldn't be focusing on the confusion if you were genuinely interested. You'd also be thinking of many projects you could do with the potential of a programming language. Instead, you're thinking of "muh programming langauge so i can be a l33t coder xdd right goyims?". Fuck off back to sales or warehousing or whatever it was you were doing before you thought you could have an interesting or intelligent thought.
Angel Adams
Java is great and all but everything needs to be in a class and shit so python is your best friend. It does so much of the work for you under the hood
Gabriel Martinez
IDEs are a good thing though.
Grayson Kelly
>phylosophy
Mate you dont get philosophy for the grammar, OOP philosophy is miles ahead of your level.
Leo Watson
IDEs are an incredibly valuable thing, but only if you actually know how to do everything by hand too. Otherwise you end up like all those people who never bother to look up what it does behind the buttons and have to give up the first time something doesn't go exactly as expected.
Nolan Butler
>tutorialspoint
Aiden Gomez
What's wrong with it?
Henry Robinson
But then you have to accept that Java is a terrible implementation of OOP that more or less misses the point of it.
Jordan James
sololearn is cancer