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>up to 1,000 p/e cycles
Jesus that's pretty bad, I wouldn't get anything less than a 4TB drive.

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Are there any slc drives still manufactured? I dont care if its 100GB, fuck QLC and fuck the memory cartel and fuck chinks

Not for consumer stuff, but yes.

There is literally nothing wrong with QLC

>same speed as a similar size HDD but half the reliability and twice the price

This right here is why I still use HDDs

>but muh spinning rust

Call me when you still have the same SSD in perfect health after 20 years of regular use, faggots.

Your HDD isn't in perfect health after 20 years so the comparison is quite biased, hopefully you understand that and were just b8ing. :)

My Quantum Bigfoot still works fine, my good trole.

Do you actually use HDDs for 20 years? My oldest and still in use HDD is from 2012.

>spins up twice a year to make a screenshot for anime forum
>wew HDDs literally last for 20 years flashtards btfo

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My main is on ocz vertex 3 is still good.

Kys fags.

HDDs could be a gorillion times faster but they would still be worse since they take a lot of time to actually start reading the file you need.

More like twice a day, and yes flashtards -still- btfo

post lifetime writes or gtfo retard

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Who the fuck still uses the same hdd after 20 years? Lmao

>cheaper
>buy 2/3 use raid 1/ 10 wtv
also get backups, fight early decay with redundancy
slc would costs you 2-4x times anyways

it's all bullshit, I use my 850 evo for 5 years
still in perfect condition.

nice sample size, good statistics!

why isn't MLC called Dual/Double-Level instead?

>Call me when you still have the same SSD in perfect health after 20 years of regular use, faggots
The only HDD I have that's working about 20+ years is a 385MB drive.
So, your conclusion is that we should all be using 385MB drives? Yeah, sounds great.

It's kinda funny, because even HDD proponents advocate for certain types of drives over others.
>don't buy seagate
>don't buy 4/6/8TB drives
>don't buy four platter drives
And so on.

385MB is all anyone needs.

tell me how.

>use laptop drives i recover from usage
> Hitachi 1tb, i bought specifically for my computer has 5 reallocates.

Oh if you want to run statistics, HDDs have an annual failure rate. It's a coin flip if they live for 10 years. This AFR increases with age, too.
SSDs have an AFR of like 0.3%. Extending that to ten years and it looks favourable for an SSD.

I recommend backing your shit up

it only a gaming drive, literally nothing of value lost.

w-what's wrong with 6 TB drives?

nothing this is fear mongering, it they where shit why would data centers uses them.

>it they where shit why would data centers uses them.
Because if they die they just hot swap them out and send them to RMA. They have so much redundancy that it's hardly even an inconvenience.

>860 is made in china.

help boys, i can not imagine how bad made in chyna QLC will be.

If your drive is 20 years old, does it even store a relevant amount of data? Could probably get a micro SD card that holds more and has better I/O.

Mine is at perfect health 10 years later. It's being used for hours each day.

SLC is 10 million+

6TB hve the highest death rate of 6/8/10TB drives. Nothing near 7200.11 3TB (4-platter) levels, but still.

QLC is exactly the reason I bought a 970 EVO on Black Friday even though I don't have an M.2 slot in my current PC.

Quake Live Champions

CQ CQ CQ
this is
Kilo Uniform Charlie Kilo

Reminder that SLC was killed because it was too good.

Is the 860 evo legit or will it conk out in 3 years?

Try 5 why you think. Samsung reduced the warranty? 850. Clearly crocked more , and they saw the balance at 5.

Poverty people

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> power on hours 240d
> power on count ~1500
> ~ 6 times per 24h or one power on per 4 hrs
Why you do that?

suspend?

>it's not broke, but let's replace it anyways, and do it every other year!

(you)

>Extending that to ten years and it looks favourable for an SSD.

goalposts.jpg

>check NAND type on 860 EVO
>Samsung V-NAND 3bit MLC
>3bit
>MLC
samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/860evo/
How is this legal?

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Suspend count as power-off?

>tfw plextor m5s mlc

only explanation i can come up with, i reboot maybe every month. Rest is suspend.

SSD tech is a lot like OLED tech, pushed before it could be properly matured.

Me.

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Technically TLC is MLC because triple level is multi level.

The real question is: Are we EVER getting anything bigger than 4GB consumer grade?

Because no one was crazy enough back when they were naming this shit to assume that TLC or higher would ever be considered. Presumably because of the anticipated shitty perf and reliability.

Don't you have an ever-expanding collection "material" that demands more space?

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i have lost data due do hdd failure for no reason

fuck HDD

i have lost data due do ssd failure for no reason

fuck SSD

'Sup.

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Of course, but I don't need a bigger drive for my OS.
>that implication tho
stahp

>Industry said it's already at 0.10$ per GB (100$ for 1TB)
>Samsung releases QVO, the cheapest-ass QLC in the SSD
>160$, goy
>meanwhile, Patriot offers 960GB/1TB TLC for 80$

Samsung is always expensive. Gotta wait for Crucial or something.

I thought Evos have always been 5 years.
Pros are 10 years.

back up data you care about, retard. also I've had HDDs suddenly shit the bed so how is that any better?

>100/50/33% increase
That's not how base 2 fucking works.

'multi' can be anything above 1, expect abuse

Obligatory

He said "modern" though?
Spinning disks are legacy and will only supported for another 3-5 years.

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It's one of the better SSDs. Everything can randomly die though.

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Dense SLC that was used in SSDs was only rated for 25k-100k.
Only sparse (90nm+) industrial grade SLC can handle 10 million+ of writes, but you're not gonna have a SSD with any meaningful capacity or speed with that.

Going from 2 bits to 3 bits per cell is a 50% increase.
Going from 3 bits to 4 bits per cell is a 33% increase.
Lrn2math.

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>Spinning disks are legacy and will only supported for another 3-5 years.
Nope. HAMR and MAMR is going mainstream the next two years. You better get your ass ready for 20TB HDDs.

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Why would anyone want those big, slow spinning drives that large when great quality streaming is readily available?

Given that nobody can have that much data legally, you'll most likely be put on a watch list for buying them anyway.

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>streaming

t. bill gates

enjoy your 50% depreciation before you get to use it

Wait for yangtze

>Given that nobody can have that much data legally
huh?

It's just not possible, unless you're an amateur geneticist.

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