Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide w your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and GPU pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and pairing with a 2080 or better >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >Always choose at least a 2 stick kit >8GB - Bare minimum/Light desktop use. >16GB - Standard amount >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards; cheap models usually low yield processor. Aim for factory OC versions for best performance >use your due diligence with cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans. They may be cheap, but won't get high boost clocks like better models 1080p >RX 570/580/1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options 1080p@144hz >Vega 56/1070ti best value, Free/G-sync monitor highly recommended 1440p@60-75hz >Vega/1070ti/1080/2070 1440p@100+hz >1080ti/2080 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make a build to drive it appropriately
any fucking PC manufacturer that can sell systems to be paid in small payments every month? I really want a good PC but I don't have the kinda money to buy all the parts at the same time.
Isaiah Martinez
Poor babies, bullied by cryptominers, can't find an RX at a decent price unless it's a used mining shit.
Jordan Long
also I have a good credit.
Anthony Clark
Save up small payments each month Voila, you have money.
Brody Thompson
What’s the most cost effective gpu for playing games at absolute max settings but only at 1080p/60fps?
Jaxon Rivera
So you want to pay overprice for you components, a windows licence and other software you could pirate for free AND high interests on whatever loan they'll give you to buy it. Are you mentally impaired user ?
James Thompson
Impossible to answer since GPU requirements vary.
Jayden Reyes
well any better Ideas? I have like 200-250 money after bills, rent, and budgeted food every month.
Chase Jenkins
I dunno, save like said ? Games aren't gonna run away you know. Or you can always start considering used workstations and start going insane with PSU power calculations and GPU compatibility like you're playing a russian roulette.
Jordan Gray
I want to build a computer for VR porn and DotA that never dips below 144 Hz.
Is 10 000 dollars enough?
Kevin Hughes
You're gonna need a lot of cores for VR
Ryder Jackson
i have an asus pa248q and a hp vh240a, 1920x1200 and 1080p respectively
i want to move onto the ultrawide meme, i have a GT1030 since i dont game, do i get a 34" 1440p or 1080p ultrawide? i love the asus display because of the colors desu so i need something with dank color display, couldn't care less about g-meme or memesync or anything over 60hz desu
Anything I can improve? Budget can go further if need be?
Brody Ramirez
Not really. If your 2TB SSD isn't NVMe then there'd be some benchmarking gains to be had by getting one of those, but the real-world difference would be about zero and would just be a waste of money. The 9700k trades blows with the 9900k so there's little reason to throw more money at it there.
Seems like a great system. Wish I could afford it.
John Nguyen
What cooler should I use with my 8700k? I'm looking at the Noctua DH15 because from what I read aio's give the same performance but with more noise and less reliablity.
Adam Myers
>title says low detail >bottom says medium detail kek
Juan Hughes
Thanks mate appreciate it, I'm 35 with no kids etc so can afford it luckily that's all, doubt you're even near my age!
Adam Harris
cope
Lincoln Wilson
>intel A chiller should suffice.
Ryder Foster
Why is /pcbg/ against aesthetically pleasing components? all I see is ugly shit here.
Logan Morgan
Am i going crazy or are RX cards feeling snappier and "sharper" than Pascal cards? I have an RX590 and it feels amazing, my 1080ti is great too but there is just something about the 590 i can't put my finger on.
Ryder Wright
>adds extra cost >looks tacky >higher wavelength RGBs like blue can actually damage your eyesight
Gosh, I wonder why we would be against buying shit we don't need
Colton Myers
what should i replace a 1TB WD blue HDD with, only other drive is a 250gb SSD samsung
Connor Long
I'm older than you, but I prefer the NEET lifestyle, which lends itself more towards bargain hunting on the used market. Sitting at home in a bathrobe and wrapped in blankets at 2.30PM on a Wednesday is pretty nice, though.
Jordan Ramirez
A 1TB WD Blue hard drive. Or a Seagate.
Austin Rodriguez
You're probably just comparing a fresh Windows install to an old one. Bit rot isn't anywhere near as bad as it used to be but it still exists.
Colton Perry
used bargain hunting is great shit though. Refurbishing motherboards and graphics cards with new pastes and thermalpads, hell even amazon mosfet heatsinks, and then making the most of your budget. It's a lot of fun.
James Rogers
Eeyup. Just put together an i7 2700k/212 EVO with a GTX 670 yesterday. I wish there were more deals on used SSDs though.
Justin Thomas
That's a great system, done any overclocking yet? Also; I'm not that other oldfag that you were talking to btw, but i'm fellow neet on budget. Recently got an x58 motherboard and put an x5675 6 core in it, it clocks to fucking 4.6ghz on air. X58 is still great stuff.
Anthony Smith
It makes them feel special and unique
John Collins
It hits 5.1, though it's too much for the 212 EVO at that point where it ramps to max to keep it below 80C.. I dialed it back to 4.6 where it's 60C with the EVO at idle.
Joseph Mitchell
>waiting >when Zen 3 and 4 are coming
Henry Cook
It's green like the algae growing on all the dead Seagate hard drives in the dump. The swirl is to remind you of the money you just flushed down the toilet. SEAGATE A SHIT
How the fuck are RAM prices so high. A single fucking 8gb stick is almost 80€. It's almost the same price as most motherboards for God's sake. Any indication the price will be lower? I'd like to get 16gb, but at this rate I'll have to stick with 8gb.
What are some small mATX cases with interesting and efficient designs? I recently got a Fractal Design Meshify Mini C and having such a huge chunk of metal feels truly archaic. I've nothing against the design of the case, but it is a huge enclosure with more than half of it empty.
Barracudas have the same reliability as WD Blues and are way superior to the last batch of WD Greens
At least with Barracudas you get 7200RPM in most models instead of the cuck 5400RPM speeds you get from WD Blues, Reds and Purples
They even released a "Pro" version which are basically better QC'd and better binned Barracudas with higher memory cache
Not sure how the other furfag branding stacks up to WD but Blacks are still kang and Seagate Enterprise drives are equal to WD Golds and are both inferior to HGST enterprise shit
Jordan James
Been looking at new monitors and I see there are quite a few options above 60Hz (75, 100, 120 etc.). Is it best to just go with 120Hz or is 144Hz or 165Hz worth it?
Carson Rivera
Could be coil whine or the fan bearing. If it's immediate upon placing a load on the system it's probably coil whine. If it gradually increases it's because the fan is ramping up to deal with the PSU heat.
If it's coil whine and it just recently started doing this where it was fine before, that would be an... interesting development. I'd tend to err on the side of replacement.
If it's the fan I'd just replace the fan. You don't even really have to do a professional job of replacing it internally (since that would often require soldering if they don't have a fan header), you could just snip the fan wire and tape a case fan to the outside of the thing.
Alexander Russell
144hz+ is only worth it if you own a 1080ti and above in addition to a 8700k/8086k/9700k/9900k.
Maybe the new Ryzens next year can hit 144hz+ but right now the 2700X can't hit 144hz+ unless its CSGO or any normalfag non-GPU intensive title.
Dominic Bell
It seems to only really be when I'm playing a game and them go into some sort of loading screen or minimizing the game, like when it's under less load all of a sudden.
Jacob Gomez
That would normally be coil whine from the GPU, not PSU.
Joseph Hill
Asrock for Vcore offset and better audio (better Intel WiFi and LAN too I think?), MSI for better CPU power delivery (but pretty pointless without Vcore offset). I took the Asrock because I only do light OC.
Logan Lee
I'm trying to find a USB 2.0 extender to connect my heat sinks rgb controller into its USB 2.0 header, but all I find are regular usb extensions. Are there any specific terms to use for such cable? I want to route it up and behind the mobo and then plug it into the head at the bottom so that the cable doesnt just cut across the front of the mobo.
Jack Collins
They'll all be USB 2.0. Don't spend more that $5 on one.
Benjamin Carter
I have a 8gb rx 580, but my processor is old FX shit
Jace Torres
Yes, the Meshify C Mini is definitely not space effecieitn. I'd consider 18L-28L a compact size for mATX
Carter Martin
I just bought a benq zowie xl2430 and I feel like I need a second good monitor , cause right now my second monitor is some budget philips I got from my stepdad. I just need another monitor for watching movies and shitposting, so it doesnt need to be 144hz or anything related to gaming. Anyone got tips? freesync?
>gpu msi 2080 gaming x >cpu i7 8700k
Dylan Perez
Versa H15. Hardly an interesting design, but it's minuscule for the amount of hardware it fits.
Camden Reyes
It literally says in the OP, but depending on your budget and game, an RX 570 4GB to an RX 580 8GB will do. Why AMD? Because that's cost effective.
Connor Richardson
>budget around 1300 >mainly gaymen and linux shiz >120hz monitor >1080p
>Thoughts? Doesn't the R7 2700X already come with a good CPU cooler?
Asher Wood
Asus Prime x370-Pro or MSI B450 Tomahawk/Gaming Plus/Pro? I dont care about storeMI, rgb or how the board looks, i just want a VRM that wont get fried by OCd R7 1700 or anything more powerfull AMD throws out in the next few years.
>inb4 get 2700x and some x470
Justin Robinson
Source? Those prices have to be bullshit, 2 more cores per CPU and half the price?
Benjamin Gonzalez
So it's good enough for overclocking?
Parker Bell
>RX 580 comes with two free games When I got mine, it came with three shitty games that I would never play. I would rather have had the choices you do. Oh well.
Dominic Bell
Other than Newegg and Amazon. Are there any other websites out there? I want to get the silver Evov X but it's sold out at both
Jason Williams
Do you do any multi tasking to warrant a 2700X? I'd go with a 2600X and get a motherboard that supports voltage offset for maximum XFR/PBO gains. I'd also stretch for either a Vega or 1070ti.
Justin Cruz
No
Justin Clark
Can someone tell me what's a safe vcore limit when trying to overclock a 6600k?
I heard that it's not wise to go over 1.375 for daily use. Right now, it seems that might oc is stable at 4.5 at roughly 1.36.
Owen Cruz
Aside from some occasionally benchmarking and streaming no not really.
Can you explain the voltage offset for max XFR/PBO gains? What motherboards support this?
Joshua Young
>budget 2k-3k give or take I dont mind much >gayming and some video editing just want some recommendations on what might get the best value for a higher budget
Does anyone know if the RX 570 can support 3 4k monitors, not gaming just lots of stuff open?
Ian Rogers
Any motherboard apart from MSI. MSI make some good AM4 boards, but they just lack voltage offset in their bios. Read up on XFR2 and Precision Boost Overdrive. Basically PBO increases the CPU's TDP based on thermals and power delivery, although it's not measured in the way it dumps voltage, and quickly hits the thermal limits because of it. Basically if you have good cooling and pull adequate voltage out of it, XFR2 will be able to sustain higher clock speeds. pcpartpicker.com/list/9GmNjy
Robert Peterson
All motherboards except MSI support Vcore offset. Vcore offset means you can have a lower voltage for stock clocks and higher voltage for overclocks. PBO won't work reliably when you're constantly on a higher voltage and generating more heat or something (someone correct me on this). All of this applies to AMD afaik, I have no idea about Intel.
Dylan Reed
Does MSI still use Killer Nic? I got a MSI motherboard a couple years ago and it has a Killer Nic and it's the most cancer thing I've ever had to deal with
You're pretty well on the money. V core offset isn't important for manual all core overclocking which is why the budget B450 MSI boards are great for non X processors, but to make the most of PBO on the X CPUs, voltage offset is ideal.
Asher Gonzalez
I'm using some at the moment with an 8700K and it's been absolutely fine. Doesn't obstruct a large HSF either.
Andrew Brooks
What would I be missing by going for RX570 4GB instead of 580 8GB?
Ryder Allen
How bad of an idea is it to run a new budget gaming build with my old power supply?
psu is the corsair cmpsu-650tx
Robert Bennett
Those things are made by Seasonic, so they're pretty unlikely to fuck up. Should be fine.
Zachary Reyes
So I just got my new parts built today but the thing refuses to give any video output. How should I search for errors more that try only singular ram sticks and removing the GPU? Motherboard asus prime x470-pro. Cpu AMD Ryzen 2700x RAM Corsair 3000
Xavier Mitchell
Nice try, retard shill.
Xavier Cox
Try plugging your monitor into it's onboard video output and clearing the BIOS. Also check the manual for the value of the POST LEDs.
Xavier Jones
4 compute units and 4gb of VRAM
Grayson Wilson
no, 8700k bet, thanks, and ya, im using an NH-D15
Samuel Williams
And of course, double check you've plugged in the 8-pin CPU power cable.