>"No understanding how to use this app"
>1 star
>"it not like [multi million dollar big name app] .. I am scam!?"
>1 star
>"app for free, and it working, but i see a ad on bottom screen... I HATE!"
>1 star
hmm, yea its not worth it being an independent developer. either enter the womb of the fortune 500 slavemonkey teams or be relegated to randjeetajeshkar bullshit 24/7. and god forbid you actually try to get lunch money out of it with ads.
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Get rekt faggot.
10% of the population are subretards, so no suprise there
>99% of the population are subretards, so no suprise there
ftfy
ad seen = 1 star from me, definitely
I even have adaway installed and this shit still pops up sometimes
Fuck ad-infected apps though. I rather prefer the model of two versions: the lite and the full, being the only distinction between them the ammount of functionality i can get out of it -not the ammount of ads pushed onto me.
>Why not just one paid version?
For demo purposes, and to separate the pajeet comments (in the free version) from the actually useful comments (in the paid version).
So are you just a hateful person, or do you legitimately think its okay for freelance devs to go hungry? Im open to suggestions, including you sticking to your damn google apps cause your data is easier to sell than your microsecond and centimeter of screen seeing it.
Because having a paid version to me is also like saying youll have a shit version. I dont code things in differing quality tiers.
ads? more like aids
Do negative reviews of this type significantly affect your ratings/reputation/revenue, or are you complaining that they are just being mean to you, OP? If it's the former, can you have some of them removed? If it's the latter, get a thicker skin. If you can deal with Jow Forums, you can deal with normalfag spite.
Ill also say that the apps i make arent visually based apps like a game or art bullshit. Its for practical purposes and generally not much time spent using it, but it does a lot of work when you do. Hence an ad because fuck you i am being upfront about wanted compensated, not jewing you into paying for functionality of the app or some gay subscription
What's your app so I can pay 5000 Indians to rate it 1 star
Phone apps are something like having a small store with stuff for legit retarded people like Walmart, if it's a free program. It's quantity over quality.
Then pay for the app. In capitalism, devs don't get food for free and have to pay for the expenses like electricity, so why would you get your entertainment for free?
>Its for practical purposes and generally not much time spent using it
That actually sounds antithetical to ad revenue. Ads are best for applications that the user uses for long periods of time but doesn't actually consider valuable. If it's a business app, why not charge for it or at least charge to disable the ads?
No it doesn't have to be a shit version, just a demo. The actual shit apps are those that i can't use because of insufferable ads.
In fact, ads are one of the things that made me switch to f-droid and never look back. Developers who abuse of user's time, privacy and patience are literally turning away people like me from wanting to use Google Play and trying new apps.
Look, just because an app does just a half of the things one could imagine (compared to a full version that does all kinds of thingns) does not mean its a bad app, especially if it does them well and for free. Paying for the development of advanced functionality is not a crazy idea and many actually resonate with it.
>so why would you get your entertainment for free?
Because he is so used to mainlining his lifedata to googles botnet and doesnt remember a time when software costed money before becoming a datamine slave
I do get my entertainment for free. Straight up, unapologetic piracy. Paying is for cucks.
And fuck the devs. I couldn't give two shits about them. They're all fart-sniffing hipsters anyway. Get a real job faggots.
Ill take your undoubtedly thoroughly researched and tested advice into consideration, randjadeetapoo
Make good products without ads
Listen to consumer feedback
Small fee paywall non essential but convenient features
????
Profit!
Independent developers are some of the laziest fucks I've ever met. But that's only because I've never met big company developers I'd guess.
You can always switch to web app. You'll be a top dog there.
People with ``real'' jobs will soon have to
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>Just become a jewish person
'no'
I offer the full app, fully functional. You dont have to pay SHIT. I put a few ads on the bottom so i can eat. This is the way it should be, that paywall shit just gets out of hand overtime.
If you dont like ads, maybe dont look anywhere when you go outside, cause last time i checked thats how businesses function in capitalism.
s/web app/web dev/
>IT NO WORK ON ME PHONE
>posted from shitty noname chink phone that's still on Gingerbread
No they won't. They'll be lynching your scrawny ass.
Anyone associated with marketing should starve to death. I hope you die at great length in great agony.
Advertising is the real Jew you fucking kike son of a bitch. Subverted Judeo-"capitalism" is not a justification for your Jewery. Charge for your fucking good or service upfront and in its entirety like an honest white man.
It's not though. That's how you've been conditioned to think.
The same way the gym gives you a low rate for the gym and charges extra for tanning and massages.
Look at Nova launcher and the like. Fully free with no ads or time limits. But then certain options like icon size and a few other non essential but enhanced features cost merely a few dollars one time.
You too can make a fully functioning app, and then charge for other convenient but non essential features. You can also put in YOUR OWN ADS for your premium apps or your own ads to donate if you like the product and want continued updates and support.
Stop falling for "I need to advertise other people's products to make money" and relying on accidental clicks to make you a few cents. And FUCK you if you're a developer who puts timed ads in anything without a benefit to me like coins or points or something.
If you want money, charge for your product. If you want your product to be free then don't fucking complain about not making money. That's not how business or service works.
You know, now I think you might simply be trolling. Charging for a product is "Jewish", but ads are fine? Your moral compass is out of whack. I'm guessing that, if you're for real, you must be a college student who isn't used to paying for shit and has gotten too comfortably with gratis ad-supported shit.
This.
There are too many pajeet tier apps, so you never know if you're buying garbage sight unseen. With a trial or a lite version you know what quality to expect.
Keep dreaming, anprim.
Spare me bitch, you are literally clothed in Jewish brands and sleep in a jewish brand bed like we all do.. and if you are such a cuck that you need (((playstore))) taking your payment details everyday, be my guest
I am aware of how the definition of capitalism has shifted pretty much ever since the fed reserve act of the early 20th century and onward. I am referring to modern capitalism, the one we must live in. Now play your basedboi games and shutup
This thread is going nowhere. OP doesn't listen to advice, loves ads, and hates money.
>I am aware of ....
Dude. You're trying to justify shitty means to a shitty end. Grow the fuck up. Lost all respect from me and likely a lot of other people from this response. Please let me know the name of your app and developer title so I know to never use your products. I won't leave a fake bad review but I certainly want to make sure I in no way support you. Not with a download not with a rate not with a visited number.
Fucking boofer
If your app has ads i will 1 star it.
If it dosent look nice I will 1 star it.
If it doesnt run fast I will 1 star it.
If clutters my desktop, tray, or temp folders I will 1 star it
Im doing well thank you person who has no real experience in what hes chiming in on.
Is this guy serious? Dad calm down lol, im sorry you think you know me personally but i actually dont know who you are! Lmal
I don't need to know you personally. When anonymous, people tend to feel more comfortable and truthful. And your views on the landscape of development and monetization is fucking shit and your morals are fucked sideways in relationship to making an honest dollar. You're a legitimate kike.
What's your app name or developer name so I can blacklist that shit from my store
You are so aware of how damaging play store is to the user's freedom, yet act so hypocritically about the usage of ad platforms. If you really live by these words, go open source and afree and tell people to donate to your BTC wallet... but i suspect you are just not honest and use that play store to publish your adware.
>Im doing well
Then what's the point of this thread, just empty bitching?
>the sky is falling
Dude calm down.
YHBT
>Then what's the point of this thread
Yeah I'm out lol
Kind of a waste, considering the topic is pretty interesting. Oh well.
Wrong, stop being nice to retards. Give free software to people who will actually appreciate it by contributing to open source non-bloat for free, when you actually have time and stability because you won’t be making $50/Month
I was actually kinda convinced of the ad argument, fuck paying google for shit and subscriptions, why not outsource that money stream a bit, afterall, google just takes those app payment fees and cuts then sells shit to us anyway with trackers and nonsense
OP here, yes, it is a valid argument. Something doesnt sit right with all payments going through google and them taking their cut, id actually rather have ads for 3rd party shit if i dont have the option to pay the dev for the app/sub directly
Sure it makes things messy and convoluted, but so is the price of not literally making google god of earth
The mobile market is shit, try to develop some highly specialised desktop app. It's harder and you might waste a ton of time if it doesn't work out, but there is at least some realistic chance that you will make money.
Great points.
Mobile is the future bub
No, smartwatches are
Im this guy,
And these actually have me thinking now..
Yea actually im starting to see the reasons for ads being acceptable now (also sorry for the cuckrage earlier, been a long ass night for me)
>"App doesn't work with [something listed as not compatible on the app's page]. Very disappoint.
>1 star
>"I can't do [feature that the app was never claimed or implied to have] with this app. Useless."
>1 star
These are my favorites.
Maybe, but desktop is far from dead and people are used to paying for desktop software.
The mobile market is flooded with cheap apps, few people will even see your app or choose it over the 10 competitors.
I don't get it. Why would anyone support any shady ad platforms "just because it isn't google"? FFS.
>Push update after telling people to back up their data
>"WTF I LOST MY DATA FIX THIS NOW"
>1 star
Fuck the google skynetbotnet
You're not me faggot
Youre good man lol, i indeed thought you had valid points too.
What does your app do, OP?
And who are you? Wtf is going on here who am i?
>app was slow
>wish could give 0 star but i giv 1. Hope dev get sick
cont.
These probably even sell the data they refollect to Google. Data mining is data mining after all. Do not let it happpen, regardless of what there is at the other side, if you value your privacy. Your interests belong to you and noone else.
As far as i can tell, you are Anonymous.
Nobody owes you a living, shitcock.
Bit hard to get on a soapbox about privacy when youre using the goystore
t. Nigger in hurricane sandy with half head of hair and crate of grape sodas
Actually i'm the randjadeetapoo from (dubs), i don't use the google gay
Uber alternative starts with an l
>complain about having a shit tier business model
>complain when people give you alternatives
???
>randjadeetapoo
Topkek, and damn no goystore? You must be one of those ayypeekay pirates
>>wish could give 0 star but i giv 1
I don't understand normalfags who do this
My best guess is its a boomer thing
>Am I out of touch?
>Nah, it's the customers who are wrong.
Have fun starving to death.
>sorry for the cuckrage earlier
Somewhat admire this guy for admitting he went over the top, actually kinda glad cause i nearly lost all respect for the ideas he presented (and im sure everyone else did too) cool that you said that, and i do agree with your earlier points.
You really thought you get anything constructive out of this board filled with underage consumerist entitled faggots?
You'd got better replies on /b/.
I mean what can you say? It's shit but nothing can really be done about it. As I said, I stick to desktop,
>defending [multi million dollar big name app]
>defending ads
Based
I agree with TechLead on this.
Techwho
His name is the tech lead and he IS the tech lead.
Protip: your illiterate lack of apostrophes gives you away, nigger.