>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide w your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and GPU pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and pairing with a 2080 or better >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >Always choose at least a 2 stick kit >8GB - Bare minimum/Light desktop use. >16GB - Standard amount >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards; cheap models usually low yield processor. Aim for factory OC versions for best performance >use your due diligence with cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans. They may be cheap, but won't get high boost clocks like better models 1080p >RX 570/580/1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options 1080p@144hz >Vega 56/1070ti best value, Free/G-sync monitor highly recommended 1440p@60-75hz >Vega/1070ti/1080/2070 1440p@100+hz >1080ti/2080 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make a build to drive it appropriately
So is it worth investing in a 2700x over a 2700 or is the best bet to wait till the 3000 series are released and hope the performance increase is worth the time wait? Same for whenever AMD stops fucking about with the next gen cards instead of rereleasing overclocked 580s as new models.
>be me >have 1080 and PG279Q >install 4xx driver >have monitor sleep issues since then >have to roll back to pre 4xx driver And I thought AMD had shit drivers. Nvidia is far worse. Fucking GPU niggers too retarded to make proper drivers.
Isaac Thomas
Wtf does monitor sleep have to do with the driver
Nathaniel Lee
more like bye intel lmao
Juan Lee
amd does have shit drivers, nobody has good ones t.has had the corrupted cursor for 2 years now
Hunter Bailey
Use SMART data, pay attention to wear leveling or life left or whatever the manufacturer decided to call it. Basically unless you get one with a factory defect it should at a minimum live through a specified number of write cycles given by the manufacturer, and once you've hit that number of writes (specified as amount of data written to the drive, for instance a 500GB 860 EVO is rated for 300TB) you should consider it near end of life and begin making sure you have good backups of its content, or else just replace it.
Charles Stewart
everything duh
Jose Rivera
Any suggestions for a 1440p 100hz ultrawide under $800 and won't be a lemon?
Eli Gonzalez
If you need the performance of the 2700/X, get it now and consider upgrading next year when you see Zen 3000 CPUs and how they perform on your 400 series motherboard
Adam Richardson
Will a 9000 series Intel CPU work with a Z370 Motherboard?
Currently rocking an 8600k which has served me well for a year, should I be upgrading?
Angel Ward
>Will a 9000 series Intel CPU work with a Z370 Motherboard? In short, yes >Currently rocking an 8600k which has served me well for a year, should I be upgrading? >CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums Gamer's Nexus did a video on the 9600k recently that's applicable to your 8600k aswell. In short, fewer threaded CPUs will have more micro-stutters, even if the i5's great IPC gives it higher average FPS. If the micro-stutter doesn't bother you or you don't notice it, don't bother.
John Cooper
>In short, yes Uh, is there something I'm missing? Don't Z390s exist for a reason?
Brandon Edwards
It'll need a bios update. >Don't Z390s exist for a reason? out of the box 9th gen compatibility, and usb 3.1 point. Not much else. Which Z370 board have you got?
Colton Stewart
Thanks. Asrock Z370 Extreme4.
It's good to know I have the option, but I don't notice any obvious stutters at the moment.
Carson Lopez
>Asrock Z370 Extreme4. Good thing you have a decent board. Problem will be when folks start out with their bargain basement shitbox Z370 motherboards with low end VRM. Trying to put an i7 or even overclocked will test these boards, but you won't have to worry about that. The Extreme4 should be able to overclock at least an 8700K or 9700K without any problems. Just don't waste money by side grading from an 8600K to a 9600K.
You wont be able to play anything fancy with that budget. Buy a console if you just want a gamebox for that cheap.
Landon Brooks
I'm fine with using used parts if that can make a difference.
Ethan Murphy
you're probably still better off with a console
Aiden Rodriguez
Go into google maps and search 'used computers' or 'refurbished computers' near you. If possible, you want to see the system boot into windows. If all else fails, newegg/ebay.
Buy a refub off-lease system i5-2400 (or equivalent low end intel quad core) w/ 8gb ram, Then add a video card that doesn't require power connectors with remaining money. .
If possible, allocate some money to a new power supply and/or SSD.
I'm thinking of upgrading from my 1700, but I want to get a new board. Should I wait for high-end X570 and 3rd gen Ryzen, or should I just get a high-end X470 now and use it with my 1700 until 3rd gen launches?
Jeremiah King
I’m looking to build a gaming pc with a 750USD budget. What parts do you guys recommend?
Jackson Diaz
If your PC isn't on the verge of collapse imminently, yes.
>Can I slap any size of ram on my computer? No, but 16gb should be fine unless you have an ancient motherboard.
Jack Lee
Yes you generally can. It'll just slow down to the lowest compatible speed between the two modules. On rare occasions it'll cause memory fail, in which case you choose the two that are compatible.
Each stick can run individually so that should be fine.
Lucas Hernandez
accidentally bumped the old thread.. whats the best gpu at $150 price range for a ryzen build?
Ryder Cooper
Can, please, someone recommend me some semi-decent 27'' monitor which will cost around ~200$? Any tips on brands I must look on, or anything that can be useful during it's tests in the shop will be VERY appreciated.
Currently I'm considering to buy either AOC i2769Vm/01 or HP 27f. They both present at our local shop, so I had an opportunity to test them and see if their color spectre is at least decent.
And also, how do you think it will work in pair with AMD HD 7770 video card and old Athlon x64 5000+ processor? I'm going to buy a new CPU soon, probably it's going to be R3 2200G, but no hopes on upgrading the GPU any time soon.
Not that I'm going to play a lot with such a weak battlestation, but still I'm curious how will it work.
Dylan Edwards
570
Christian Lee
Is this the place to ask for upgrade suggestions to existing systems? I built my machine a bit over two years ago (with help from this general) and my budget's increased since.
Brayden Morales
thanks any specific brand/model you would recommend? i've heard some are better than others.
Ian Taylor
Sapphire Pulse or Nitro.
Cooper Miller
Would a gtx1070/vega 56 be overkill for a 1080p 75Hz monitor for the next 2-3 years or could games become more demanding even at that resolution?
Blake Hernandez
>all that copper Are you INSANE ? Aluminum is just as good.
>used workstation with 6/12 cpu : 160 yupoors >new rx 570 : 130 yupoors >praying the gods for the PSU to not blow up : 10 yupoors at the local church I don't think I did too bad with my shitty budget.
Alexander Phillips
My CPU fan died, so I need a replacement. The old one has a 92mm Scythe Slipstream with up to 55CFM on max speed (2500RPM). Is there any cheap fan that would have similar specs or be even better? PWM.
Leo Lopez
thank you
Bentley Bailey
I found a good deal for a Gigabyte RX 580, should I buy it or are the other 580 models better?
Jonathan Wood
Define "good".
Oliver Lopez
$240 and it includes DMC V and RE2 for free.
Adam Rodriguez
8gb ? Not bad I guess, you're not buying mining shit aren't you ?
I've built several run of the mill PCs but I've never done custom loops. How big of a budget do I need to get started, not counting the PC parts
Jose King
How do you even fuck up the spoiler tag that bad ? Regardless you'll probably fall short in a couple of years, I already suspect you won't be able to keep a steady 60fps on modern AAA shit and it'll only get worse once new consoles get out.
Brayden Richardson
Any good builds for around $600?
Oliver White
>How do you even fuck up the spoiler tag that bad ? [spoiler]on purpose because spoilers don't work on Jow Forums anyway[/spoiler]
Anyway, are there any obvious bottlenecks in sight?
Isaiah Hill
I figured. It would depend on the game, I suspect you will only get CPU bound on MMOs and bad ports, anything else shouldn't have issues. I'm more curious about why you're running two 8gb sticks in single channel.
Tyler Morris
Probably because this was my first build and I had no idea what I was doing beyond how to stick things together and what switch to flip to make it turn on.
Well read the motherboard manual and put those ram sticks in their proper sockets. You're halving your memory bandwidth like that.
Alexander Reyes
Lads I'm a big dummy, I just spent money on an used Xeon to only later discover that unlike i7 they can't be overclocked, but now it's shipped and it's too late to go back.
>he though incel allowed overclocking You need to pay up for that goy.
Tyler Jenkins
You can still bclk overclock depending on your motherboard. Also some xeons have unlocked multipliers.
Jackson Bell
speaking of ram, is 3200MHz really that much better than 3000MHz?
specifically the corsair vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM model, $10 price difference
Jaxon Jenkins
I got 5 bucks what can i get
Brody Clark
Indeed, however I read that bclk overclocking won't get you much in terms of added performance on Xeons. It's an E3-1240 v2 which, from what I read, has its multiplier locked. I'm not sure why I only thought about checking after the purchase, what a waste.
Sebastian Walker
You'll be fine as long as your mb allows you to change ram ratios and profiles. After that it's just a matter of using a calculator.
my current set up is a rx 580, 2x8 3200, b350m gigabyte, 550 psu, 500gb evo ssd, 2 tb barracuda, r5 2600, should i replace my power supply, and what’s a good replacement for my mobo? definitely a comfy mobo, would prefer to stay gigabyte, but sometimes it will not read my ram and ive memtested my ram
Jason Hill
His knees are buckling.
Jaxson Russell
When do the GOOD teams play?
Levi Roberts
with the almighty power bestowed upon him, he will rid the world of thots and protect his virginity at all costs
Jordan Brown
Once Navi hits the gtx1070 isn't gonna worth shit, even at 1080p.
Evan Brown
Worst case scenario 230w for the gpu and around 150w for the CPU, plus random shit. You barely touch the 450w on max load the PSU isn't your problem unless you're running some cheap nobrand crap.
Caleb Cook
rx 470 for 100 euro or do I still wait for amd new gpu I'm still on a i5 3450 with a 660ti
Camden Campbell
Can someone recommend a solid 120+Hz 1080p monitor? Is 1440p worth it?
Should I spring for a 1080ti for VR games?
Ayden Barnes
go write your own drivers then cunt
Easton Phillips
Everything.
True. When I had the RX470 the driver was unfinished. The window didn't have proper size and there were tooltips saying "text". Both AMD and Nvidia can't create good drivers.
Why the fuck would I? I bought a product and expect it to work and be supported. Bet you are some useless ricer fuck with too much time.
Nicholas Miller
Anyone used these fans before? I'm curious as to how they stack up to the competition, not least because I think they look rad as hell and the specs seem pretty great.
>emailed Nanoxia to ask why they suddenly increased their case by $50 >"teehee that was our holiday promotion price, this is our regular price goyim" >price history shows that their "promotional price" goes all the way back to February Fucking jews, just say you wanted to increase the price, don't feed me bullshit.
>i'll criticize everything and contribute nothing not only are you worthless but you're useless. at the very least go chat with the engineers who make the drivers for your GPU and have them help you fix the issue. As you stated, you paid for it, so you expect it to be supported. This is basic user supported bug squashing.
The fuck is wrong with you?
Asher Jenkins
It's more expensive than a Noctua fan and it has more buzzwords in its Amazon description.
Daniel Brown
What kind of cuck are you? I buy a product and expect it to work and be supported, easy as that. I did contribute data and logs but I'm not going to spend more time on that. Thing is customer support is worthless reiteration of the first two Google pages. They just don't fucking care about it.
Andrew Miller
Just replying to the canadian user who bought the Philips monitor in the last thread.
I hope you'll enjoy the monitor as much as I have mine. I'll leave you with these settings in DisplayCal which I've found work well for me with the Huey. You can mess around with the tone curve depending on your use case, but since I mostly produce for the web, I used sRGB. You'll also want to enlarge the calibration area and use the "black background" option. You might notice I calibrate to 160cd/m2 and that's because I find most things to be really hard to read at brightnesses lower than that. You might find that you're personally fine with 120 cd/m2 or 140 cd/m2.
My condolences. Noctua is about $5 cheaper for the same mm. In my experience though Noctua is dead silent, my case is full of them.
Camden Gonzalez
So either the eLoops are cheaper over here, or the Noctuas are more expensive. Of course Noctua is a safe bet, but that's why I asked about the eLoops as I'm intrigued by that whole single-piece rotor design.
Nicholas Morales
>2 weeks before christmass >wtf why are they increasing prices
What is the best LGA 1156 Xeon chip to get? I've got a motherboard with an i3 540 in it for now but I'd be interested to see how the Xeons would do in that machine.
