3 years of warranty

RAID 10, so I'm safe unless another one goes down while rebuilding.

I got a portable external drive yesterday that came with this mystery HDD inside. Can't fine any info about it except that it was made in Korea, has 128mb cache (claimed, dunno how to verify), and is quite fast for what it is (130mbs sequential up/down over USB 3.0)

Anyone ever heard of Sebap?

How many companies actually manufacture HDDs these days?

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My first reaction was that someone has glued some foil and a label on it in an attempt to rebrand the drive.

This link suggests that it is a refurb
old.reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/a3djdx/i_dont_understand_why_this_exists_its_a_1tb/

Check the drive using some smart toold to see who the manufacturer is.

Sebap it

Sucks for you. I have had two normal WD REDs for well over 3 years bought several months apart and they still work at this moment, and I even disabled the power management feature that turns them off after a certain period of inactivity because it fucking drives me nuts having to wait 3-5 seconds whenever I open my computer, start an installer, etc.

ive never moved my computer but i find i have to replace HDDs 4-5 years later because they all die, like clockwork. two i've RMAed but cba with the other, just bought a new one.
HDDs being super relieable is such a meme.

Ah, looks like it's a refurb: prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=6669751&keyword=sebap 1tb&cate=112763

Dunno the OEM

this and two others (from 2014) are still working fine... had two Seagate DM001s these ones to be precise:
extremetech.com/extreme/222267-seagate-faces-lawsuit-over-3tb-hard-drive-failure-rates
failon me just a month ago

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This. Reds are retarded

>RAID 10
>safe
lol what a retard.

>unless another one goes down while rebuilding.
this is why you aren't safe.

Triple redundancy is about the point where you reach an appreciable level of fault tolerance, but only if you rotate out your drives at regular intervals, and don't use more than one drive from the same production batch. I've seen multiple drives in a mirrored array fail within minutes of each other if they were in the same production run.

my other two drives smart data:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Red
Device Model: WDC WD30EFRX-68EUZN0
Firmware Version: 82.00A82
User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 056 056 000 Old_age Always - 32773
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 81
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 32672 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 32664 -

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Red
Device Model: WDC WD30EFRX-68EUZN0
Firmware Version: 82.00A82
User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 056 056 000 Old_age Always - 32773
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 82
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 32672 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 32664 -

btw, i have way more seagate drives than anything else.
just wanna point out that the reds used to be good...

raidz2 or raid6 is sufficient (depending on the use case) imho, but i agree totally with everything else you said

>raidz
LOL
enjoy your sudden and unexpected data loss.

>on 5.25" floppy disks
>the most fragile media ever
Real men do their backups on pic related

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you dont know the half of it...

Label: 'data' uuid: d2a80b8a-****-****-****-************
Total devices 2 FS bytes used 15.85TiB
devid 5 size 9.09TiB used 7.94TiB path /dev/sdc1
devid 6 size 9.09TiB used 7.94TiB path /dev/sdd1

Data, single: total=15.83TiB, used=15.83TiB
System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=1.72MiB
Metadata, RAID1: total=19.00GiB, used=18.04GiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B

The thin layer having your data on it literally starts flaking off the plastic disc after about five years even if you keep them in a fucking humidor. Enjoy your data loss.

Do Blu ray discs suffer from disc rot?

>not backing up on magnetic tape

>you dont know the half of it...
I did a lot of research into ZFS
basically, it's beta on anything other than FreeBSD
And even on FreeBSD shitting the bed isn't that unusual
That being said, it's better than BtrFS

EXT4 is the only halfway decent filesystem.

>magnetic tape
lol tape is a meme
you have to have hundreds of TB of data before the break-even point on media and drives.
Also, tape drives wear out fast. Good luck finding a compatible replacement in 2 years.

>reds
>NASware dying in less than 10 years
kek.

bdre like pic related have a life span of 20 years max. I only use them as temporary discs tho because once these are completely filled I burn their content on high-ene BD-Rs M-DISCS

>BD-DL drive is 65€
>LTO 7 drive is 3000€

they aren't mature enough, true
this is my joke home server, so no need to worry... that being said, they do offer a lot... i practically couldn't imagine living without snapshots, the additional speed due to arc and l2arc is also neato...

Why censor the plaintext of the serial but not the actual barcode?...
WMC1T3535847

>computer part, with the highest failure rates by far, failed? must be the model.
You guys are literally superstitious about hard drives.

What would an intellectual like you recommend then?

No telling from SMART info: says it's a 0-hours drive by ipTIME. The model number (ST1000LM024) pointed to it being a Seagate Spinpoint which it's clearly not since specs and look is totally different. However it's a perfect match for the Seagate Barracuda ST1000LM048 specs/appearance so mystery solved.

Looking inside I see there's also a UTANIA mark which lead to this: enuze.com/overview-hard-disks-clover-hightech-utania-mm802js-and-mm802ns/

Which explains the business model, which isn't the usual rebrand WD/Seagate/Toshiba refurbs. Seems it's the remnants of Samsung's HDD division (sold to Seagate) and according to the parent company website cloverhitech.com/business-info/hdd3.asp they fully rebuild the drives themselves (presumably how they get away with Made in Korea).

>What would an intellectual like you recommend then?
WD Gold
lol

Trusting your data to anything less than Platinums.

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>And even on FreeBSD shitting the bed isn't that unusual

Most of the time that's some tards using it with non-ECC RAM.

I'll stick with my Toshiba HGST rebadges.

>NAS has 21TB usable capacity
>backup on 25GB discs
I'm afraid that doesn't sound very practical.

I'll always spend a bit more for an HGST drive.

The solution is very simple
ditch this NAS shit, buy regular 1/2tb HDDs alright? Then make copies of your stuff on 3 different HDDs that way, if one fails, you'll have two left. Learn to do it right bro

>real men
>using Windows

Real men use the MEGAsync GNU/Linux client which operates in real time!

>drawing statistical conclusions about millions of drives by using a sample size of four

Imagine being this retarded.

He said one of his drives failed, not four of them.

He said he has a RAID array so I'm assuming he has a couple of drives

>Real men use the MEGAsync GNU/Linux client which operates in real time!
Funny you mention it. The reason I bought my BD drive to do backups was to set free from megasync. Sure it's free and I used it for years but it has a 50gigs limit and a shitty bandwidth

>RAID 10
What do you store on the drives?

the data is not stored on the metal film

At this point it's really just semantics, when it starts flaking, you can kiss that optical disc goodbye.

You guys are just unlucky. F

in theory you could centrifugal apply reflective paint, like on a waver

anyone have experience with using OMV+snapraid?

how is it compared to xpenology or ZFS?

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Switch to superior Ironwolf Pros with 5 year warranty

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Disregard everything, OP is a massive idiot
>Source: I'm OP, pic related

IRST degraded the array and can't rebuild it even though SMART says the drive is fine. What gives.

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>not m-disc
Step up senpai.

HDD Sentinel claims all the drives are fine too.

Fuck software RAID
Fuck IRST
and most importantly
Fuck Intel

why didn't you use ZFS or something else

>tfw my X360 RROD'd a few weeks before the extended warranty expired
Suck a fat one Microsoft.

>he doesn't have hot and cold spares
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALMART

>censors the serial number but leaves in the barcode
The absolute state of Jow Forums.

not OP

OP

Hitachi makes pretty reliable hdds desu

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so
fucking
loud
rattle
me
timbers
arr

>he fell for the WD Red maymay

Are hdd's from hitachi any good?
Or should i just get some blue/green western digital?

HGST are pretty good theyre also owned by WD so thats that get either really ive personally had great luck with WD Blues bought them in 2009 still running to this day.

> To burn on BD
How much time takes you to burn a single layer BD (25 GB)? What are your specs?

I'm planning on buy a BD burner to backup some shit, but IDK how much time will take to burn a disc with this toaster. Pic related.

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It's not maymay, people just have to stop using them wrong.

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has there ever been a storage medium that wasn't fucking trash?

My two 20MB HDDs from 1984 send their regards, they still work in my IBM AT.

>Using a Hard Drive wrong
>By reading and writing data to it regularly
That absolute state of WD shills.

see
Moron.

I've had one of these drives since 2012. Runs fine with no bad sectors. Lucked out I guess.
Only drive ive had fail on me are WD ones.

>My two 20MB HDDs from 1984 send their regards, they still work in my IBM AT.
That's pretty amazing! Who made them? Can we get a pic? What kind of stuff do you have saved on them?

It's an Olivetti IBM AT, so yuropean (italian) OEM.

Otherwise it's a pretty basic PC.
16 MHz, EGA card @ 640x480, 640 KB RAM, I'm running norton commander on it with norton utilities 6.0

I have like fourteen megabytes free on them in total, because I didn't really need all that storage, I just have a shitton of text files saved on it edited in Context. I have some games on it like Grand Prix Circuits (no mario, that fucking thing needed VGA graphics), and some misc. shit like Anatomy for my biology class.

This is the exact model:
computinghistory.org.uk/det/41372/Olivetti-M290/

This PC stuck with me for a long time, I didn't replace it until I got my 486DX and then I used that 486DX until I got my PII MMX Compaq Deskpro.

>using a hard drive instead of SSD
How fucking poor are you? Just splurge a months' salary or whatever and get what you need. It's worth it.

That's really cool! Thanks for sharing.

No probs. I did some pretty autistic shit on it too, like I was ASCII drawing trilobites, because I was obsessed with the prehistoric era at that time, but somehow the underwater creepy-crawlies interested me more than dinosaurs.

I always liked ASCII art, I just never had the talent to make any. Long live the classics.

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Why would you care how loud your server is?

the bd-re I bought (the cheapest possible) are 2x and are filled in 1.5h

Because i dont own an apple device

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My 6 year old WD black has been doing the click of death for 4 years and still is completely fine.

comfy bread

>WD
You deserve it and WD needs to fucking die in a nuclear holocaust for buying HGST and rebranding their drives as more expensive WD shit.

Seagate was shit in 05-10 or so. Most WD drives don't die, though ; I bought about 7 WD drives over the course of 5 years from 2011 to 2016, greens, only two have died. The oldest, 1.5 TB EADS, still was going strong after 6 years of power-on until I put it on a shelf.

The two drives in my RAID are nearly seven years old. Doesn't seem to be a problem here.

Blacks are always loud. That isn't the click of death.

>Blacks are always loud

>mfw Seagate ST4000DM000 are literally screaming high pitch and making me insane
>replace them with WD Reds and pic related happens in under a year

Good thing I have 8Tb external hitachi drives for backups

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They are quiet silent when you hang them tho..

I've bought maybe 15 hard drives in my life, none of them have failed.

The only part that I have fail, and it fails often, are the usb-sata bridges that come with external hard drives. I've had to remove the case and bridges from like 4 different external 2.5" drives, and now they're just internal drives I use loose and slot into a toaster style sata dock when I want to use them

bumperino, how's your drives Jow Forumsentlefellas

both my 10k rpm raptors still work lol

I lost a black with 4 years of use.
Fucking who runs this joke of a company?
Can't they understand the concept of PERSISTENT storage?

It's free if you find one from a trash can.

Whatever drives as long as you have 3-2-1 backups.