Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti are standard choices >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
for a second monitor, but still have 0 idea what should I go for for the primary one.
Anybody can help?
Easton Stewart
There's no fucking way to know until release. That said, 3000 Ryzen will support PCIe 4.0, which older boards most likely won't. Fortunately enough for you, GPUs don't bottleneck 3.x PCIe yet...
Alexander Powell
I have a z390 Gigabyte Aurora motherboard. Top left corner is the CPU power connector. It has 1x8 pin and a 1x4 pin slot. But the cable has a 2x4 pin. Do I use one cable for the 8 pin connector and use a second cable for the 4 pin slot left over and use half of the 2x4 cable on it?
Ryder Morris
what kind of specs do i need for a gaming laptop to play mount and blade warband?
John Hill
And the bottleneck probably won't matter unless you're somehow trying to do 4k 144hz gaming.
Carter Cox
Baste 2060 being cheaper than the 1070 Ti. Great for low resolution (1080p) gaymers like me.
Isaiah Davis
ye, it's a really good mobo
Robert Parker
>Gayman laptop a 2500u is all you need, you can get 60 fps in warband pretty easy with it. If you want intel look for something with an mx150 (the non throttled 25w version) because HD graphics are shit. Even the throttled version is better than HD graphics, but you'll lose like 40% performance. If you go ryzen avoid the 2700u and stick with the 2500u, the 2700 chokes itself for power and actually gets worse performance than the 2500u.
Cooper Miller
Thinking of getting one myself. I've been running with a 960 for a long time now and it feels appropriate to upgrade
I'd prefer amd get its ducks in a row to pull off a good launch than have problems. I do wish they'd launch the mobile ryzens though, I'm in the market for a new general purpose work/light gaming laptop and it's taking a lot of my self control to not pull the trigger on a good one right now.
I would, but can't afford one. The GPU I got after the hurricane for pretty cheap. Suspiciously cheap.
Oliver Barnes
Would recommend the 2060 and save a few bucks on top of having slightly higher performance. This is assuming you're nowhere near 4k.
Nicholas Thompson
name a better one for that price and features. I waited for the CES. AMD said NO BLYAT ANOTHER 6 MONTHS OF WAITING CYKA!
I am still fucking around with my i7 920. Fuck that shit I am getting a new PC NOW.
Landon Fisher
>2060 still not on OP Wtf
Kevin Cooper
>Supporting goytracing
Angel Nelson
wait for computex to buy everything ....
Mason Kelly
I'm sitting on a i5 2500k and have been since 2011. I really want to upgrade to a new platform (I struggle with new games), but I fear Intel 10 or whatever AMD has will blow anything out there right now out of the water. Should I play the waiting game one more year? Or just take the plunge with a Ryzen or 9700k?
Brody Torres
Whats a better alternative? Not trying to argue, just curious. It looks really nice for its price.
Lucas Moore
You have 2 choices. Buy a 9700k + 2060 or Wait for Computex and see what amd offers. It's very likely that the 9700k still trashes ryzen 3000 in games.
Kayden Martinez
Even if you dont mind the goytracing it's still the best value pick for 1440p currently
Wyatt Morgan
>9700k and 2060 That's exactly the pair I was eyeing! In Canada the prices are kinda crazy thanks to the shitty dollar, so a 2070 was kind of out of my range (~800 CAD) I got the cash burning a hole in my pocket so once the 2060s are in stock at the shop I'll probably go for it. Thanks user.
Brayden White
It depends of your monitor, which you didn't mention. But yeah, for high framerates at 1080 and if you don't want to delid dis, it's a decent choice.
Lincoln Torres
I'm still a 1080p boy for now but I'm thinking about switching to maybe 1440p in the future
James Jones
The GPU might not be able to output as many frames as you'd like at 1440p, but it should be decent enough at 1080p.
Cooper Thomas
Third option: Get a 2600 now with a mobo that will be sure to handle ryzen 3000, and then upgrade to a high end 3000 during a big sale.
Lucas Ortiz
Yeah, I'm still 1080p for the foreseeable future. And as for 1440p, I kind of figured it'd be lacking, but I don't own anything that outputs that resolution right now so that doesn't worry me too much.
Just mainly looking for stability in games like BFV and beyond at 1080p high-ish settings. I can hardly manage low as it is right now with a 2500k and RX480 4GB
Henry Hughes
See I should have made one comment, I suppose.
Cooper Nelson
>28.05.2019 and then >wait for that announcement
I am sitting with this build for 10 years now. 2700x or 3000x doesn't even matter now since I am not gaming that hardcore games anymore and for work stuff it is strong enough.
Ryan Cook
Just keep waiting bro ... just a little longer ...
Looking to build a modest computer with a budget of around ~$1,000 (I can go up some). Not huge into games, but play them occasionally. Having issues finding a build that doesn't feel like I am wasting money.
Not sure on the mobo or GPU mostly. Also, unsure if I am over of under doing the CPU.
>Also, unsure if I am over of under doing the CPU You're doing wank mostly. Either it's not good enough for high FPS gaming, or it's not good for multi-threaded workloads, or it's too expensive for just 60FPS @1080p. Worst value. What are you going ot use your PC for? I assume yo have a 1080p 60Hz monitor; is it correct?
Juan Murphy
i have a friend that wants to build a medium range gaymen pc for some older games. his budgets 2k usd but he doesnt want to spend alot. his goal was to play mgs5 so it seems reasonable considering its an older game
Hes gonna be playing on a 1080p monitor. Thinking of building it around a gtx1060, an i5 or i7 and 16 gb ram of what ever the fuck corsairs peddling. Any suggestions? Should he shell out alot for other components like fans and power supply or are the cheaper alternatives doable?
Ryder Jenkins
At 2k USD he could be aiming higher than a boring 1080p 60Hz monitor. A 1080p 60FPS build would be under one grand.
Brayden Long
I haven't kept up with computers or anything about them in years. I am mostly using it for multi tasking. I game like maybe a few times a month. I don't have that monitor and have no idea why I would need it.
Aaron Miller
>I am mostly using it for multi tasking What do you mean by that? Give some examples. >I don't have that monitor and have no idea why I would need it It's not a model, it's a spec. It means a 1920x1080 monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. Is it the kind of monitor you have?
Camden Richardson
>What do you mean by that? Give some examples. Fucking around in PS and editing videos. Also, I am autistic and like to leave programs running and jump back and forth. >It's not a model, it's a spec. It means a 1920x1080 monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. Is it the kind of monitor you have? My monitor is old as fuck - Acer S27IHL
Just bought a 580 8gb off of amazon for 189. How did I do?
Ayden Watson
Any recommended settings for a vega 64 undervolting? I am currently playing around with the frequency and was trying to find a sweet spot. Is there a way to set fan speed rpm in AMDs program? I only see a percentage option for the power draw for the fan speed relative to temperature.
Lincoln Foster
I have a Vega64 and an i7-5820K, would 850W be a little overkill? Looking to replace my old ass PSU.
Benjamin Ward
user, it's right here in the specs sheet.
Aside from that... It's a bit different to what I'm used to cook. For maximum multitasking, I've put a 2700 and 32GBs of RAM. If you're not hell bent on overclocking, this motherboard will be more than enough; it's a pretty good motherboard. If you're doing video editing you could benefit from a NVMe SSD rather than a regular SATA one, but that's about 100 more bucks. The case is boring but works; it could use two front intake fans. If you're willing to spend the dosh, there are other more silence oriented options, but obviously they tend to run hotter. I picked a 580 8GB, which should be enough for some 1080p 600FPS gaming currently. If you game only infrequently I'm not even sure it's going to be useful, but you have the budget so why not.
What should be the budget to build a gaming pc that should run most of the games that are coming out this and the next year with high graphics settings?
Christian Williams
1900
Landon Gutierrez
Thanks for helping me out. Yeah, I could go up to $1500 if needed. I'll see if I can find a case with the fans. I'm so used to my vacuum cleaner PC now that sound proofing isn't a big deal.
Ryan Sanders
>Computex
being a little optimistic there, buddy.
Jaxon Powell
Amazing price/performance, what model?
What are some good 140mm exhaust fans? I need 2 with the way my system is set up one fan would be right above the cooler and the other would be inches away from where the air is being blown from the CPU cooler
Benjamin Taylor
Just keep the case and change the fans. Two intakes, one exhaust.
>very like that 9700 still trashes ryzen 3000 in games lol and where is the source on that, firmly shoved up your ass? if the 8c/16t chiller beats the 9900k then how will it be """trashed""" by the 9700?
Jaxon Cook
>ties in cinebench where amd is favored you just know that ryzen 3000 will continue being trash in gaymes and real life apps
Im aware but the idea was to keep yhe build cheap. He has 2k but if he xan hed pay less. His original goal was a fucking all in one pc with a nvidia mx130, what ever the fuck that is, for 1100.
Heres the plan i had. Its obviously prrtty high priced and more than what he expects, but thats to be expected if you dont include the kb, monitor and mouse
I should also mention my friends a total normalfag so hes not to deep into pc building and specs. He just wants to run gayms
Lincoln Anderson
get a cpu that isnt a housefire
Jose Miller
eat my farts fag
Juan Wilson
Dumb question: Do CPUs come with thermal paste or do I need to buy that separately?
Adam Hill
user, fix your typing. You look drunk.
Anyway, if all he cares is 1080p 60FPS gaming and as I wrote, you can make something under 1k easily. A 8700K is wasted if he has a shit 60Hz monitor. You can't even cool it properly with a 212 Evo anyway...
Only if they come with a CPU fan, then it's pre-applied
Logan Williams
I'm dealing with audio desync issues with a new build (particularly with youtube). Using my monitor's audio output remedies that problem, but it's only a line out 3.5 jack, and I'd prefer not use it considering it's a low quality output. Not sure if this is a software/driver related issue or a hardware issue. So far uninstalling the manufacturer driver and using a generic HD audio device driver doesn't fix the issue, and both the rear I/O and front panel connectors put out the same desync. I think this could just be a faulty audio chip on the motherboard, and if so, I need a way to bypass the chip.
Ethan Hill
>mx130 for 1100 good move dodging that one, you almost got jewed. For reference the MX150 is basically just a mobile version of the GT1030. The MX150 would do mid range old games fine, but not the 130.
James Russell
>get a cpu that isnt a housefire
works on my machine :^)
Easton Myers
Hm. I see. Doesnt amd usually have compatability issues with some games? Its the reason why i focued on intel and nvidia components
Chase Stewart
Is the pre-applied stuff passable or worth keeping?
Grayson Cook
It's preapplied on the cooler. Any aftermarket cooler you buy will also come with its own. Usually the coolermaster ones come with a nice tube of decent paste.
Isaac Baker
that build is fucking garbage here's something not retarded pcpartpicker.com/list/PctXq4 If you want sound get a audio technica MSR7, dont bother with pc speakers they are fucking horrible, aslo you can swap the Vega 64 out for a 1080 or 2060 based on preference
Henry Foster
Well, let's just say that if you're bothering with the thermal paste, you're also bothering with not using a stock cooler.
Brayden Robinson
No, it's not 2009 any more.
Ryan Powell
>imagine having an nhd15 and still reaching 90c i guess you don't have to imagine right?
>Doesnt amd usually have compatability issues with some games? No. Intel has performance advantage in gaming with the high end CPUs while AMD does better in applicative works. But as I wrote a 8700K is completely wasted on a 60Hz monitor so it's pointless to pay more for something you can't see. As for GPUs... no, AMD has fixed their shit drivers. Now both NVidia and AMD have equally crappy drivers, for the enjoyment of every gamer.
Evan Taylor
>laughed at the ray tracing memes >mfw day 1 purchase of 2060 to save money Life throws you curveballs.
Ayden Lee
Being a consumerist cuck with 0 self control isn't a curveball retard.
Ayden Evans
But user, when your life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want not to be ray traced?
Jackson Nguyen
>posts 9900k temps when the dude had an 8700k in his partslist
poor attempt, rabbi.
Michael Robinson
Usually stock coolers are decent enough to handle light overclocking, but "light" depends on the CPU in question. I also wouldn't dare use the stock cooler with any intel housefires.
Oliver Ward
Should I get just an SSD or should I get a small SSD for a boot drive then put all my programs and games on an HDD?
Juan Howard
That AIO will keep a 8700k pretty cool, even overclocked.
Jaxon Clark
Looking for a monitor but not sure what i'm looking for. >Going to use it mainly for photo editing and drawing, internet and gaming >Not sure if 144hz is worth it for me since i don't really play FPSs except maybe Doom >Probably going for a 24" screen so 1440p seems worthless unless i go 27" >Max budget is around $400 CAD, having a credit card with a $500 limit fucking sucks So far i've been leaning toward between two Asus monitors, the 75hz one costs about $100 less than the 144hz one so i'm wondering if i should just get the 75hz since i'm not a competitive FPS player.
A ssd makes a big difference in games that have a lot of loading so any open world game or strategy games like total war. I'd say do either a 512 or a couple 256's, one for os and applications, the other for games. You can add a 1tb hdd for storage and other games that aren't load heavy.
Brandon Martinez
With current SSD prices, it's not worth it to get any lower than ~500GB. My preferred setup is one 1TB SSD for your daily use and a big HDD for backup purposes.
Adam Morales
The Jow Forums nerds can fight me but as far as im concerned ssds are a meme and your moneys better spent on higher hdd capacity >but m-m-muh speeds
So you have to wait ten seconds for your pc to turn on oh my what ever will you do.
Wait until ssds are at the same capacity as hdds for the same price as they are now then theyre worth it
But if you really want one, nvmes are faster. Go sanic fast
John Phillips
Yeah so what if 90% of my 10tb are unused, at least I got the better deal on space XD
Charles Cox
Thoughts on this? I have a 1440p monitor and plan to get a 2060 with this.
