Cant use android

quick rundown anyone?

>Huawei outselling applel and samshit
>muh espionage
>meanwhile all the commiefornian and israeli tech giants do the same thing xD

>cant use android
Open source Android + F-Droid
>cant use arm processors
Risc-V
>cant use sony cameras
Improve quality of chink cameras

Huawei vanned from getting anything related to America, including American chips made by Intel AMD Nvidia Qualcomm, American software that are not open source like Android beta and their associated Google service or Windows, and other things that have some technologies coming from America like ARM's American design center designed some part of ARM architecture so Huawei can't use that either.

windows phone/GNU+Linux
risc-v
chink camera
NEXT!

Official reason for the sanction was Iran, although it look like Trump delayed the sanction till the trade talk fail

>I just quitted

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They probably can create their own Android fork (I don't think they'll go with postmarketos or something that different) with their own app store (all it needs is messengers and maps). Regarding hardware, surely they can find someone to sell them chips, who knows, maybe they'll push RISCV.

its often underappreciated how much ip theft goes on at google. its actually become an issue for uc berkley after they switched campus email over to them

>Windows phone
Microsoft is also American
>chink camera
>Sunny camera
>Who use that?

ok, they can still use AOSP, they'll just have to come up with their own thing

that will probably be true soon

They claims they have another plan, they will have another OS that will be fully compatible with android apps, yet not being Android based

I'm all for Android alternatives, but I doubt they'll go that route. It'll be AOSP + custom store.

kotlin?

I meant fuschia, sorry

that'll give them a year.

They're talking with Aptoide and begging developers to upload on their own AppGallery.
xda-developers.com/huawei-replace-google-play-store-aptoide-appgallery/
So far they're doing the Nokia X debacle all over again (their own shit market + some other local shit market).

Hongmeng, said to be coming this fall

garbage heap i.e. sold en-masse in China's backward villages for peanuts.

Sailfish?

See

what if Xiaomi are next?

Xiaomi doesn't operate in the US.

Unlikely because they represent Qualcomm's interest

>Huawei is only losing western market
You mean the western market is losing huawei.
I don't care if chinks know I watch 2D loli porn, but it's a big problem if the three letters agencies find out and those were """LEAKED"""

>Can't use Sony cameras
For what? Leica is better

>LineageOS is now being supported by Huawei.

>can't use Android
They can. They just can't use Google Apps. AOSP is theirs to use as they please.

I bought the amd matebook from huawei a few months ago
Shit works flawlessly with Linux and it has 7 hours of battery life.
All that for 400€

Of course tech giants need to find a parade to keep their ponzi scheme alive
Huawei was the good guy. Even if they do keep data, western constructors do it to.

Woops, Huawei will suddenly invent BRM

I fucking wish.

They will find alternatives and sell just as good as before.

anyone know what the reason was for the US government telling google to blacklist Huawei?

The extent i know about it is that they found their phones sending data back to Chinese servers but i dont understand how that itself could be all that bad?

I really hope they will put money to develop a risk-v chip.

Huawei makes more than just phones, they're trying to get into 5G base stations

The worry is that not only are their phones compromised, but everything else they attempt to make such as 5G base stations, routers, processors, and enterprise products

>The extent i know about it is that they found their phones sending data back to Chinese servers but i dont understand how that itself could be all that bad?
this is just an excuse, how many time has the us been telling a lie again?

Us government isn't "telling" Google to blacklist Huawei. US government make a rule and every American companies need to comply
The official reason for the ban is Huawei wanted to end Iran sanction, unlike those non-reasons that all those anti-Trump pro-WallStreet media wanted you to believe

Huawei is not just a phone company, they're also a telecoms company

They offer stuff like campus wifi setups, enterprise storage solutions, work with telecoms carriers to offer products like routers and base stations

kek

that's politics for you. it's a proxy war and the details hardly matter when the world suddenly has bigger issues to deal with.

So? It's their design. And TSMC is a chinese company.
ARM is british, but it's not like that would affect anything anyway.

Been busted spying and their CFO was breaking sanctions.

The Chinese communist party elite uses various companies to launder their stolen billions.

When these companies get found out, they are left to die (and Chinese state-owned banks are left holding worthless debt).

Tencent, Huawei, HNA - these are all part of the same scheme.
The difference is that they were not ready to let Huawei die just yet, and they certainly didn't expect the daughter of the Huawei CEO to get arrested.

By comparison, HNA's chief accidentally fell to his death in France while taking a selfie on a medieval castle last year. They were done with him.

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Yeah. People forget that China is still a communist country and Huawei is not a purely private business.
I wonder what they will do now. They are big but no support from any American company will be tough.
Didn't something similar happen to ZTE?

It was a sanction against Huawei and some other chinese telecommunication companies, it wasn't specific. Google just complied with the sanction.

>The official reason for the ban is Huawei wanted to end Iran sanction

Ah thankyou, so China wasnt respecting the USA's sanctions so they decided to slam down the banhammer under the pretence of "security risks" which also might have some truth to it.

you have any idea how entwined they are with telecoms? I think i remember seeing a while ago that some branded routers and such had Huawei chips in them but i dont know how far they've taken it since then

maybe the chinese government will just focus their attention onto xiaomi. (i hope not, i like my cheap chinese phone)

>Leica is better
Leica doesn't make smartphone cameras.

All they do is sell lens designs and allow companies using those designs to use their brand name for their plastic pieces of shit.

>So? It's their design. And TSMC is a chinese company.
Wrong
>ARM is british, but it's not like that would affect anything anyway.
ARM said that they need to respect the sanction because some of their design works are done on American soil

*The official reason is that Huawei violated Iran sanction
The reason is written on the official documents and they are not trying to cover it up

I wonder if they could use Sailfish OS with access to the Google play store.
That would be pretty awesome.

>Wrong
Isn't TSMC Taiwanese?

It's just part of the trade war.
Next China will ban Apple products.

Breaking the x86 Instruction Set
youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ
with this in mind what do you think could be hidden on any of Huawei's chips

>ARM said that they need to respect the sanction because some of their design works are done on American soil
Still doesn't affect them. Don't forget that non chinese companies aren't under their copyright laws.

Some retards think Taiwan is no longer part of China because they didn't have a communist revolution.

I wish Chinks restricted western manufacturing in China, this way we would finally get manufacturing back. We could do it cleaner and of course with way more automation. It would probably be more expensive, but big fucking deal.

Yes and they aren't controlled by the Communist nation named itself China

riscv.org/members-at-a-glance/
>GOLD

>Copyright laws
The point is not copyright law. The point is technology export. They cannot export new Cortex design to Huawei and their affiliated companies because part of those desogn work are done in America

They don't have enough technology to be independent yet. That would be suicide.

Chinks would never restrict western manufacturing, it's how they obtain new technology.

Asus became a thing because they stole all of Dell's technology while manufacturing for them.

If manufacturing moved to the West, there would be no new technology from China.
And we think of Japan as some big-time innovators today, but they were cloning the West in the 60s and 70s too.

i know that now, it's just that that part is never mentioned in the news here(i dont live in the US), or i've just missed it. The only thing i hear brought up is the potential security risks

They will just go to Vietnam, Indonesia and India

fuck you, i want a phone that isnt going to bankrupt me

>can't use intel processors
>can't use microsoft operating systems

What will happen to their laptops?

thenextweb.com/plugged/2019/05/22/microsoft-removes-huawei-laptop-listings-from-its-online-store/

HUAWEI AND CHINA BTFO

FUCK USA
BASED CHINKS
THEY ARE SO GOOD
AMERICA HAVE TO DO ANTI CAPITALISM TO BEAT THEM

There are no stolen billions. China is not ammurrica and its leaders care for the people.

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>its leaders care for the people.
100 social credit points have been awarded to you citizen

American "liberalism" everybody

but trump is a fascist

Hello, richard

Trump is America.

I think all this proves is that alternatives to US tech companies should be looked for. Trust has broken.

> If they can do this to one, they can do this to all.

USA tech companies could be the ones losing money in the long term from this if those banned can't buy from the USA, then the USA tech companies will be making less money in the future.

I'm looking forward to European / Non-USA degoogle'd open source Android smart phones in the future anyway.

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>>cant use android
>>cant use arm processors
>>cant use sony cameras
Android will be copied
Arm CPUs will be copied
Sony cameras will be copied
Do you really think this caught China by surprise?
They will just fuckign download the app store and reproduce it on their own site... no loss... what Google gonna sue them? don't think that will stick in a Chinese court.

>I'm looking forward to European / Non-USA degoogle'd open source Android smart phones in the future anyway.
lol they'll never exist

The play store is literally already banned in china, numskull

Those smart phones already exist in China, Google is not allowed there. They can just do it in the west as well with a few alterations of perspective.

Yeah there's an open source app store instead.

they might be degoogled but they're not open source

Android is literally open source.

Google is a motherfucker. Even if you ship AOSP with a 10/10 store you still need to add a layer similar to MicroG. A lot of apps now require features from google play services (e.g. notifications, `wake` being restricted). Some won't even install if the play store app isn't installed.
One can dream that china would go full open source and indirectly force western apps not to use proprietary google services to work. They won't tho.

Pretty sure the statement was directed against those American who betray their country and criticize their government together with their enemies

>>cant use sony cameras
Sony is Japanese. Why can't they use Japanese tech when the ban is only for Amerikike companies?

asus is Taiwanese

Because Japan is white and China is yellow.

They would be Chanchan Maps China made apps not Google Maps.

japs are american cucks since they got their bell rung with nukes hehe