AMD wins

It will be mid-tier at best when it comes out, I don't know why people are somehow thinking a console won't be a budget shitbox THIS time when they literally always hype it up as the second coming of jesus christ, why are there so many underage /v/ tourists here?

I didn't say you get the same or better hardware for the same price.
The point was that the hype before a new console comes out never turns into what was promised before its release.
Yeah you get pretty good hardware 'for that money', but it still sucks, if the hype tries to make people believe, that they will game with 60fps at 4k in 2020, when in reality those promises NEVER hold up and it should be so obvious if people just look at previous releases and how many AAA games ultimately performed.

OK my realistic specs are:

>Mid Range Navi (6.5 - 7.5 Tflops) Based APU with 2nd Gen Ryzen 6 core 12 thread CPU at 3.0-3.5 Ghz.

>1440p/60fps on some multiplayer games and 30 fps on single player games, 4k/60fps on certain games, maybe sony exclusives only like god of war, gran turismo and naughty dog games.Hopefully no dynamic resolution BS this time.

>8k video playback, maybe games will use AMD version of raytracing Radeon Rays.

>Space for maybe 3 SSD's/HDD's

>Better cooling than the Xbox One X

Even if they only went with the old GCN based GPU from their current PS4 just with Zen cores it would be a huge upgrade since all new gen consoles are CPU bottlenecked as fuck.

It's probably gonna be some fairly simple games that don't put much stress on hardware aside from the RT(i.e. official raytracing mods for older games like ) but they're gonna be there

A 1070 TI will be good for at least 5 more years

If it is expensive enough and comes out soon enough(While the hardware they are going with is still fresh) it might match mid-high end PC's because of how bloated Windblows is, on consoles they always manage to squeeze out more performance with platform specific optimizations.

That hasn't been true for like 10 years and the disparity in performance between the PS3 and PC was because of the weirdass Cell architecture that needed a complete rewrite on PC, which led to poorly optimized games.
Nowadays console hardware is worth as much as PC hardware, there's no real "squeezing" going on.

not gonna lie, would rebuy vagrant story and more.

>8k
Yeah, something tells me this is going to be like the PS3's full hd. Technically possible, but you won't see any games using it.

>$399
would buy