How Important is RAM speed?

Answer: Not at all. Just buy the cheapest thing there is which will allow you to afford more of it.

SPEC FAGS BTFO

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Not true if you have an AMD CPU though.

Absolutely irrelevant when you buy it as long as its the latest tech garbage. This situation rapidly reverses as the computer ages and the latest killer apps begin gobbling both capacity and bandwidth. By the time the next ddrX begins dominating the market and developers and code artisans have mastered the latest software libraries, the difference between cheap sluggish ram and one that isn't cheap is very noticeable. Naturally, the difference was always there but it is only when the machine is put under extreme stress by highly demanding apps that it is made obvious.

tldr: fast low latency is always better

truth is you can usually overclock bad binned memory to a decent point

If you get low end RAM, set up very slow timings but crank up the frequency will Ryzen performance improve?

Just get 2400/2666 ram, lower the timings a bit, tweak the voltage and overclock it. From 2400 to 2666 or 3000, there's noticeable difference in performance. But above 3000, the increase isn't that much. Also, ram prices are decreasing and there are plenty of good ram out there right now.
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>intel
Not much
>ryzen
A lot

any 3200 mhz cl16 fine for ryzen2?

No you're a retard and actively recommending cheap shit sticks that have a very high chance of being Hynix AFR/MFR or micron that isn't E-die, which is absolute fucking trash especially the Hynix ones.

You want those, especially if you're Ryzen user
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advice from 2009 doesn't work in 2019 shitter

that seems like the usual laptop ram, if so, it's irrelevant, most processors will force them to run at 2400 due limitations

There are plenty of gaymen benchmarks that show just how much difference there actually is between those cheap rams and rams with higher frequency. But keep sperging I guess.
P.S. You're willingly posting rams with shit timings. Still the links that you yourself linked are far more feasible than the ram prices just a year back, just like other proper rams.

>There are plenty of gaymen benchmarks that show just how much difference there actually is between those cheap rams and rams with higher frequency
techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_Memory_Tweaking_Overclocking_Guide/10.html
Yep I'm seeing massive improvements with properly set up RAM with Good ICs (aka Micron non ECC Edie, Samsung Bdie and Hynix CJR)

>You're willingly posting rams with shit timings
CJR can tighten better than whatever trash you posted, (provided you don't get the mystery meat random samsung Bdie kits which will do 3733-4000 CL12), and by default 3600 CL19 is still better than 3000 CL16.

Keep coping with your shit RAM because you can't affor 10 bucks more for CJR.

Is your link supposed to prove how "massively" better samsung b-die is over hynix? Cause it really doesn't do that. If someone is gonna buy cheap ram due to his budget, chances are, he's not gonna feel a "massive" difference with the rest of his hardware, especially his monitor, with that margin of difference in performance. That being said, there are plenty of good 16gb kits out there for sub 70/80 bucks.

Moron I Csnt wait for next gen ddr5+ hbm3 and ssds to leave your dumb ass in the dust fag

Can't wait to hear incelturds keep saying ddr3 1600 is all anyone will ever need even after ddr5 comes out.

anything from 3000mhz up is alright.

>Is your link supposed to prove how "massively" better samsung b-die is over hynix?
Only thing I'm seeing is there's a 10% difference average between badly configured CJR and well configured CJR and an additional 10% increase for well configured Bdie, difference is Bdie is twice to thrice the price if you want to buy it with any level of certainty.
So really you're getting something with a much better price performance ratio.

> If someone is gonna buy cheap ram due to his budget
We're on Jow Forums if something is slightly pricier with a potential 10% increase in CPU performance you should be seeing the value in it or you have little business being on here.
And if you're on a tight budget chances are you're getting an APU (maybe a ryzen 1st gen which will also benefit from good ICs) so really fast RAM for very cheap is an absolute must.

>That being said, there are plenty of good 16gb kits out there for sub 70/80 bucks.
Nope, unless you get very lucky you're getting bad ICs that can't clock high or have tight timings.
The absolute cheapest you can find RAM that has a high chance of not being garbage is trying to find one of the newer Micron Edie kits ( Ballistix Sport LT 3000 CL15 or 3200CL16 should be that ) and that's right around 80 bucks too but a bit cheaper in yurop.

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How can you spot which ram is what? Any good resources for learning about buying ram?

>How can you spot which ram is what?
You can't without having the sticks under your eyes usually, the part number can help but it's not a 100% guarantee especially since you can buy something and be shipped an equivalent with a different part number
You can guesstimate based on manufacturer frequency timings and prices.
Anything below 3000 (and anything unmarked/no heatsink regardless of rated frequency) is mystery meat RAM, you can basically get anything ranging from insanely good (aka unmarked chink RAM that does 4000+ CL12) to really bad (aka 2133 at JEDEC timings and can't do better), not worth the gamble.

One example I can think of is if you find Gskill 3200+ sticks, 16-16-16-36 / 15-15-15-35 has a fair chance of being Samsung E/Bdie and no chance of being Hynix AFR/MFR, 16-18-18-38 is most likely not Bdie
Cheap CL19 3600mhz stick are CJR almost exclusively, it's why you generally just want to get those if you don't want to overspend for Bdie and still want the upper tier of RAM performance on Ryzen, because they'll usually either clock higher than that with stock timings or have much tighter timings at the same clock stable once you tweak them.
Micron Edie should be on all new 3000CL15 and 3200CL16 from Crucial, I think the part number should have AES near the end of it as a confirmation
Hynix AFR doesn't do above 3200, Hynix MFR doesn't really do above 3600 so anything above that is pretty much guaranteed to be good, non Edie Micron chips I don't think can do above 3000

For Bdie in particular you have benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/
It's not 100% accurate but usually works out

And lastly even if you get good ICs it's not an absolute guarantee, Antec had those "Bdie"sticks that were Samsung Bdie, but the absolute shittiest bins of it so they actually couldn't clock very high

>Any good resources for learning about buying ram?
Overclocking communities HWbot in particular will have info scattered in the forums about what IC you might get but also safe voltage, temp sensitivity etc

As for general recs
If you're lazy and don't need anything particular, cheapest 3200 CL16 you can buy is a safe bet on any platform
If you're gonna tweak your shit, cheap 3600 CL19 is what you should aim for, CJR is fun to fiddle with and that's most likely what you're getting if you're looking for those specs.
If you're gonna go for the best possible thing without breaking the bank get 3733 with the tightest timing possible and tweak from there, higher clocked RAM has a massive price hike and usually the limiting factor isn't the sticks themselves but the IMC or mobo, don't be the retard buying 4200+ only to realize you need a godly mobo and an intel CPU with a golden IMC to even pretend to have a chance of running the rated spec in daily use

3200 is minimum spec for Zen2

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