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I'm sure this has been talked about many times, but I'm unable to find satisfying information about it... Could someone please give a quick rundown on what are the differences between distros? Answers that I often get are, that the differences aren't big and take place mostly in 'package management', but I don't really understand what that means.
My main question is: can a choice of distro straight up cut me off of some functionality, or will it be just harder to obtain? (something in the sense that maybe in Arch you can just type 'pacman install this' and somewhere it would take a longer process)
Also, what are specialized distros all about? Like 'data science' distros for example.. do they simply have some useful programs preinstalled or is there more to it?
I'm currently running a debian server, but I also use it for browsing, programming, and listening to music. I have another unused machine. I was wondering if there are any benefits to having a standalone headless server AND a desktop on separate machines, both running debian (or some other linux distro).
Juan Phillips
>what are the differences between distros? package management. That means the way that the system obtains and handles new and existing packages. For example, debian and ubuntu use apt-get to install things, arch uses pacman, etc. That's the main difference besides things like the actual configuration that goes into some of them like arch and gentoo. Read this for more details: wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux >can a choice of distro straight up cut me off of some functionality If by that do you're asking whether a specific distro can limit whether or not you can install x package that is available to other distros, then the answer is no because you can compile it from source if there isn't an install file available for it. >Also, what are specialized distros all about? These are typically distros that come pre-loaded with specialized packages that are usually non-free. These packages can also be installed on any other distro.
Josiah Jenkins
Well what makes it so one computer can run a piece of software and another computer can't? Other software. It's the combination of software you currently have which determines what other software you can run and they also determine any "quirks" you might have that others don't when you install something new, since binaries end up being slightly different if they're compiled with slightly different build chains. (this is one of the major problems that Nix and Guix solve in an elegant way)
When people say the package manager is what separates one distro from another what they _really_ mean to say is that it's the _repository_ that separates them. It's the pool of software that you download from that separates you from someone else who downloads from a different pool. In theory 2 different package managers that download from the same pool might also be a little bit different but not as much (at least not any more than 2 users downloading from the same pool but at different times might have slightly different behaviors in their software [another problem solved by Nix and Guix]). But the main factor is the source, the repository of software.
Henry Reyes
if you can't think if a use for a physically separate machine then you likely don't need one
Cameron Barnes
Unless the server is really important to you, or gets a lot of traffic and you playing games is slowing down the server causing your users to complain or something, then I don't think it really matters. A different machine isn't going to give you more bandwidth or anything. Just more stability (in terms of resource usage and also software since the server likely has less overall dependencies than your desktop software).
Benjamin Rogers
Redpill me on Guix bros. Is it worth? Considering installijv it instead of gentoo.
Eli Brown
installing*
Dylan Thomas
in windows, you can copy and paste an image link directly into the path when posting an image. i.e. you don't have to download the picture to your pictures folder and click it. is there a way of doing this in osx/linux?
no-one has been able to answer this question.
William Williams
I really need to just save a copypasta or screencap for this question. There's too much to have to keep writing it over and over. Maybe I'll fish something out of the archive and post it later.
Brayden Richardson
is echo New_Name >> /etc/hostname enough or it needs a reboot
Austin Garcia
I was using nano to edit some config files and when trying to cut some text the whole thing stopped working. The pointer still idles but no input seems to do anything. Using arch btw.
Liam Murphy
Not a full reboot. Just restart the network stack and you should be good.
Brayden Collins
Thanks guys. I currently only use this as a seedox, SFTP, SSH, plex, and subsonic server. I mainly just wanted something that is headless and runs in the background without me having to do anything to it while I have another machine to browse but I guess it isn't worth it since these features are working just fine and I'm not going to get more bandwidth by having two separate machines. Do you guys have any suggestions for other cool shit I could/should do with my server besides what I already do? I've been trying to think of more use cases since I might as well get some use out of a running server.
Jonathan Rodriguez
windows actually downloads the image locally in a temp dir then reuploads from there
posting low quality pepes from search engine results is poor form please don't do this
Austin James
> >> That appends. Use > to write.
John Nelson
It's not working. I checked the process in another session and it looks fine.
Jeremiah Parker
Our standard filepicker (the GTK filepicker) is fucking trash and we all know it. Of course there's also the thumbnail issue which I'm sure you're already aware.
The closest you can get to what you want would be to copy the URL, then hit a hotkey which runs a script to save the image to /tmp and also inject the new location in /tmp into your clipboard, then in the file upload box you'd hit Ctrl+L to display the address bar and paste into it.
So that's 2 extra hotkeys. Of course if you could enable the address bar permanently then it'd be only 1, but I don't know how to do that and wouldn't be surprised if there's no way to do it since the GTK devs really don't give a shit about you or me.
Isaiah Bailey
kill it with fire you get to run programs again neat, huh?
I cant get firefox to stop eating ram and not letting go of it. It is currently using 14.2GB of 16GB and it is effecting the rest of my system. Windows lag when opening and closing or being moved. No other program can run for more then a few minutes before its killed because of oom.
I've tried using ulimit and cgroups and systemd slices, but those dont seem to work on the child forms mainly "Web Content" that firefox creates which is what is using the most ram
Is there seriously nothing i can do to tame firefox?
Liam Cook
is gnu/loonix less energy consuming than windows? i want to program on a plane and my laptop's battery isn't exactly in the best state by now. antergos is my distro
I'm dualbooting Arch Linux and Windows 10. For some reason, I have no sound. This seems to be an issue among a lot of dual-booters, and from what I've been reading the past 3 days, it seems there is no known solution. Anyone up for the challenge?
kinda yeah, I plan on switching to Arch this month though, now I'm a little more used to Linux. thanks, I'll give that a look
Joseph Baker
>still being Microsoft's bitch
Cameron Foster
It’s unfortunate. Sadly, I have a job.
William Edwards
I use rsync to maintain my backups. I use it to basically update the target with new files and delete files that have been deleted from the source. Problem is it doesn't seem to update files that have been changed on the source. For example if I modify a spreadsheet and run rsync, the old file remains on the target. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
anyone here use nix? I've just installed and I'm trying to make my basic system with plasma. I added these lines to the configuration.nix but I'm getting an error on rebuild unexpected '=', expecting $end. have I missed something? I got this before during install when I forgot a ; but it looks all there to me
i3 seems to hardcode its own terminal in its config file, how can I make it use my terminal, rxvt? I don't mind not having an elegant solution like reading the default I've set somewhere else, but I've tried both ```exec rxvt``` and ```rxvt``` as replacements for ```exec i3-simple-terminal``` and no matter what I do the keybind does nothing
Zachary Nelson
You don't want --ignore-existing
Owen Gomez
Why the fuck doesn't a program exist to make an android tablet or iPad a second monitor in Linux through USB?
I don't always have internet. This exists on Windows. Tell me how to do this on Linux and I'll convert . I don't need touch, I just need it to be another monitor/screen. No, not remoting an actual extended desktop
Ryan Thomas
oh shit. thanks!!
Jose Torres
rebooted and now it says "unexpected $end" (I didn't change anything) and commenting out my lines shows the same error
David Rivera
GNU/Linux*
Mason Long
Hey all this is something relatively insignificant I've never bothered to look into for years, but how do I get the preview file selector screen to display thumbnails in the same way they do when opening Caja by itself?
Basically, when I open it in any setting other than uploading files I get full sized thumbnails but when uploading files (like on Jow Forums numerous times per day) I have tiny thumbnails that only preview one at a time which makes choosing meme reaction images a little harder than it probably should be
Well that's dumb So the KDE Plasma Desktop Environment is the only way around this shit?
Brody Cook
where can i get crypto with out giving them my id? can't i buy with cash or something
Andrew Perez
Is dolphin seriously the only file manager with folder previews?
Henry Stewart
There's kiosks which will sell you crypto for cash, in my city at least.
Ian Lee
Local bitcoins lets you use paypal
John Bell
just use manjaro for dual boot like me friend the only thing bad about it is the logo
Noah Ward
Please direct your hatred to the shitty GTK and Redhat developers (who are a literal "my way or the highway" cancer the likes of which even Linus Torvalds has banned from contributing), and don't let this sour your opinion of GNU/Linux as a whole.
Samuel Jenkins
What are any pros and cons to using Void over Debian? I'm thinking of switching over. My priorities: >Need to spin up new systems with my configs quickly >Would prefer Void to feel like Debian but without the extra fat >Need latest proprietary drivers >How does compatability look?
Also is there any reason to use dwm over Xfce? I heard it's lighter but I'm not sure if I want to switch.
Evan Sanders
I don’t wanna give up lul Is Arch incapable of dual-boot?
Jaxon Russell
>any reason to use dwm over Xfce? 20 year old PC or autism
So basically it doesn't matter at all? Not even in terms of aesthetics?
Alexander Torres
Can someone help me? PulseAudio seems to be functioning properly. It’s detecting my sound card and everything, and is convinced it’s outputting audio, when it’s really not...
fixed. cleaned up everything, nicely commented and redid the { }s
Ayden Perez
Turn your speakers on
Brody Roberts
>this is one of the major problems that Nix and Guix solve in an elegant way I've been interested in installing Guix ever since it first got released. In what way is its package manager different? Is there a brainlet-proof way of installing it?
Julian Sanders
I'm dual-booting Arch on my desktop and my chromebook with no issues.
Mason Russell
They're on, sadly
Gavin Richardson
Unrelated, I just picked Manjaro as my babby's first Linux, is this awesome y/n?
So it's possible! Can you help me? envy24control returns this: (envy24control:6524): Gtk-WARNING e to locate theme engine in module
(envy24control:6524): Gtk-WARNING e to locate theme engine in module No ICE1712 cards found
Wyatt Gonzalez
Solved the issue!
Jose Moore
Is it possible to give grub an OS to boot into, just for the next boot? My grub by default boots into loonix if I don't chose anything. It would be nice if I could run a command before rebooting which rebooted me into Windows with no interaction, so I can go for a piss without waiting for the grub screen to pop up.
Grayson Parker
Fuck this, I'm going back to arch linux. I thought I would try OpenSuse because it's "backed by a company" and I heard KDE was good on it. KDE was way better on my Arch install. Thought Arch was a meme, but this is the third time I'm coming back.
Ian Lee
>In what way is its package manager different? see But specifically in regard to the part of the post you quoted where I wrote: >since binaries end up being slightly different if they're compiled with slightly different build chains. (this is one of the major problems that Nix and Guix solve in an elegant way) the way they're different is that they guarantee the build chain is exactly the same. Every package is installed with a name that contains the cryptographic hash of itself and everything in its build chain. That way if you change anything in the entire chain, or any aspect of the package itself it gets installed under a new name. Because everything is built from source and they have their own special linkers every piece of software in their repos is built with this new linking system. So it allows multiple versions of packages to co-exist perfectly without any conflicts whatsoever, and two builds on two different machines that have the same hash are always going to be identical (bit-for-fucking-bit identical, or at least that's the goal, some packages still aren't bitwise identical but they're considered bugs that need to be sorted out).
>Is there a brainlet-proof way of installing it? Yes, because Guix can _build_ fully self-contained packages that can be run on any distro even without Guix installed, the maintainers use Guix to build Guix itself as a fully self-contained package. So you don't need it to be available through your distros package manager, you can just go here: gnu.org/software/guix/download/ and grab the (3rd option) GNU Guix 1.0.1 Binary and right under the download is a link to instructions on setting it up.
Adrian Torres
Oh forgot to mention that on the instructions page: gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Binary-Installation.html if you want, there is even a shell script that automates the entire thing for you. Of course if you don't trust the script then feel free to do the instructions on the page manually. But the script is the extra "brainlet-proof" way to install it.
Asher Anderson
the only easy solution is to drag-drop from your file manager
Samuel Barnes
>even Linus Torvalds has banned go on
Ethan Carter
4 chan x
no the gtk 'filepicker' isn't fucking trash - it has type to search and supports dropping if you aren't retards you'll set sort to modified so just downloaded pics are already selected when you open it
Lincoln King
Opensuse is good but a bit "heavy". I always felt Arch and Debian out of the main distros are the lighter ones regarding your pc resources especially if they're not brand new computers.
Jace Martin
firefox eating ram depends on the CONTENT that said you could limit the virtual memory with firejail --rlimit-as=3000000000
Ryan Hill
have you checked if it's muted
Brandon Smith
lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420 In fact, I think I should probably save a screencap of this. >Let distributions merge it as they need to >But I'm not willing to merge something where the maintainer is known to not care about bugs and regressions and then forces people in other projects to fix their project.
Note that Torvalds is stating the problem just from his perspective of merging into the kernel. But if you read between the lines you can see that what the developer is really doing is aggressively trying to merge stuff, even causing breakage, in an attempt to force change to happen HIS way. It's not just negligence, the developer is breaking shit on purpose. That's how Redhat operates, and that's how systemd became the giant it is today. Every distro didn't adopt it because they liked it. They had no choice.
And if you think I'm being too paranoid about their intentions, here's Poettering himself (pic related) literally stating outright that pushing distros to do what they want is their intent: >Well, it is definitely our intention to gently push the distributions in the same direction so that they stop supporting deviating solutions >SO THAT THEY STOP SUPPORTING DEVIATING SOLUTIONS Who the fuck do they think they are to decide what direction everyone should be going in? Honestly my biggest complaint about systemd is starting to just be that its developed by these fucks. I'm not against businesses, but lets be honest here. Although their business is rooted in open source software services that will never change the fact that it is BETTER for their business to take control of everything. And if anyone thinks they aren't going to be trying to do that then they're being incredibly ignorant. Redhat wants to take control and in my opinion that is the #1 reason systemd even exists. It's not because they wanted to give you something nice.
how to set up simple email ? >postfix ubuntu and namecheap what am i missing? bpaste.net/raw/VH2o
Asher Cox
Then why does every non-systemd distro right now use eudev instead of udev? Because they HAVE to, and eudev wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the hard work of the Gentoo devs. Get your facts straight. If it weren't for the eudev fork then systemd would have basically succeeded in infiltrating essentially EVERY distro.
It's a regular old >and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids situation. Thank you Gentoo devs for meddling.
David Gray
>Get your facts straight. retard
Zachary Mitchell
Good post. You've convinced me I'm wrong now. Sorry for wasting your time.
Kevin Rogers
if you read the previous posts again you will you are wrong, no need to be smug about being a retard
Lincoln Richardson
I already said you've convinced me. No need to keep posting.
Gabriel Gomez
here let me help you, this post of yours makes no sense as a follow up to the previous the decision to use systemd does not == the consequence of it fucking retard
Angel Mitchell
is there any way to tell which DirectX version is supported on my iGPU on linux? I know I am asking for much
Jeremiah Wright
Is Arch worth trying? I need newer kernels for my hardware, but I fear that it would crash.
the thing is im not sure whether or not intel HD 2000 supports dx11, some fuckers on forums say it presumably is achievable with drivers update i know right
Aaron Parker
lol wut? No it isn't. Vulkan is a totally different thing which isn't related to DX in any way. Perhaps you're thinking of DXVK? Which translates DX into vulkan.
If that's the case then the answer to your question is if your iGPU can run vulkan then it doesn't matter what version of DX your iGPU natively supports, because you're not running DX you're running vulkan. So for example if your iGPU doesn't support DX12 but DXVK can translate DX12 (I don't know if it can or not) then your iGPU could run DX12 code through DXVK. Hopefully I explained that right, might sound confusing.
Matthew Harris
what about galium9
Samuel Gomez
I don't know anything about that. It's only through wine though right? I suppose it's possible there could be some special wine code that requires certain GPU's. It's the first I'd be hearing about it.
Austin Brooks
So I can boot into my desktop again, but the GRUB terminal comes up on boot and sudo update-grub did nothing.
Device Start End Sectors Size Type /dev/nvme0n1p1 2048 204799 202752 99M EFI System /dev/nvme0n1p6 204800 1000214527 1000009728 476.9G Linux filesystem
Is the output of my fdisk if that helps.
Sebastian Sullivan
>added extra space FUCK nb4 "reddit spacing xd"
Angel Powell
You boot into your desktop and then a grub terminal pops up? I have no idea what this means
Nicholas Rodriguez
I boot, I get grub terminal, and I enter some shit to get into my desktop. I want to boot straight to desktop.