Scotland hate thread

Does anyone else here hate the """"country"""" of Scotland? I just can't stand the fuckers.

Firstly, they pretend to be a country. They're not. They can generously be described as a province. Scots on this board, please take a look at that flag that accompanies all your posts. If you aren't sure what it's the flag of, hover your mouse over it. I, on the other hand, am from Ireland. This can be seen from the flag that accompanies my post. If you're unsure about your status as a non-country, please consults the UN's list of recognised member states (un.org/en/member-states/). Now, I know what you're going to say, so let me stop you. No, having a soccer team doesn't make you a country. No, competing in the Commonwealth games doesn't make you a country. No, having a devolved parliament doesn't make you a country. Most US states are more countrylike than Scotland.

Secondly, they're completely two-faced when it comes to their separatist talk. They couldn't even win a vote for independence. To be an independent country should mean something. Most countries are founded through sacrifice. Poland and Ireland for example were both dominated by a larger neighbour but kept a constant desire for freedom, and rebelled repeatedly, no matter the odds. Scotland rebelled what, once in 1745? Even that was more a French invasion than Scottish uprising. Scots couldn't even tick a little box on a ballot. Compare that with the Catalans, who went out and took savage beatings from the police in their desperation to vote for freedom. All their "Flower of Scotland" and "Scotland the Brave" talk was revealed to be just that. Talk.

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Finally, their fake English hatred is a crock of shit. Even Billy Connolly, said the whole anti-English thing only really started up in the 1990s. Before that, they were hunky dory. Look at the way the Scots acted towards the Irish immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries, or their role as colonisers in Ulster, to get a better idea of how they fit into the union. It seems like the Scots, after being willing partners with England, have decided to try recasting themselves as victims now that colonialism has gone out of fashion. At least the English acknowledge their role, and own it. Even if you think they're cunts for it (I don't really care), at least you can have a grudging respect. The Scots on the other hand are total worms.

If England are a schoolyard bully, Scotland are the shitty little rat that can't stand up for themselves and just follow him around laughing at his jokes. Then, just to confirm they're total pricks, they act all buddy-buddy with you when he's not around and talk shit about him behind his back, despite him being their only friend.

I hope Scotland never gets another independence referendum. You shouldn't have to be asked twice if you want to be an independent country. Fuck it, I hope they add the verse about George Wade crushing Scots back into GSTQ while they're at it., so the Scots have to own up to their cuckery every time they hear their national anthem.

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I like their accent, I like Trainspotting movies and I think James McAvoy is a good actor.

They're faking their accent. No one needs to speak like that unless they've had a stroke.

Trainspotting was made by an Irishman raised in England. Like all """"Scottish"""" achievements, it was actually down to Ireland and England. Even Braveheart was shot in Ireland with mostly Irish extras.

Good post my Irish cousin, the eternal Scot must be put down

rude
Ireland>Scotland>shit>absolute shit>Engl*nd

Scotland BTFO. They probably won't even stand up for themselves. They'll just pretend to be English or Welsh, and laugh nervously at themselves.

Pathetic.

>It seems like the Scots, after being willing partners with England, have decided to try recasting themselves as victims now that colonialism has gone out of fashion
ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRUTH-BOMB, MY IRISH BROTHER.
The constant weaselling of Scots makes me sick.

>be Scots
>Have double the number of troops
>Get annihilated
>People claim that the scots are a warrior nation
Gee Hollywood has sure pulled the wool over peoples eyes

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Ireland > normal English > Wales > posh English > Manx >>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>> Scots

>tfw the reason we're in a union with Scotland in the first place is because Scotland tried to start a colony of it's own and failed so fucking hard they bankrupted themselves and sold their country to us.

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Never met an Irish dickhead in town, it's always the scotshitters stirring shit

>They're faking their accent. No one needs to speak like that unless they've had a stroke.
Oh, that's sad. It's especially cute when girls speak like that.
>Trainspotting was made by an Irishman raised in England.
But what about an atmosphere of decay in the movie? It feels like home.

Wales were willing partners with England, and have good-natured banter with them. Plaid Cymru is irrelevant and the two groups have an understanding and broship.

Ireland never wanted to be associated with England, rebelled constantly and have had a tense relationship. The two have reached a greater understanding in recent years and put it to one side for the greater good.

Scots are flip-flopping cunts who want it both ways.

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>Scotland spent the last decade bitching about how 'fookin' English cunts keep forcing a Tory government on us'
>At the last election, most of Scotland voted Tory and they're now the sole reason we have a Tory government right now
Makes my blood fucking boil.

Pent up rage at the fact they never established/asserted themselves as a nation. Ireland and England have come to blows, like men. Scots snipe and bitch from the sidelines like a woman on her period. You just know the Scots who go out looking for fights are going to wail about how an English guy jumped them.

The Scot cries out as he hits you.

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scotland is cool you fuck

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Haha I will never read this you Irish dog.

>copy lion symbol from english, but make it red (OC do not steal)
>decide to replace it later on
>replace it with a unicorn
>only chose a unicorn because in mythology it's the mortal enemy of the lion
Every decision the Scots make is based around pissing off the English. They have no autonomy of their own.

Objectively wrong.
If it weren't for Northern Ireland (thanks Scotland) they'd be the uncontested worst ***country*** in the UK.

>scot
>can't read
How shocking

Northern Ireland is entirely Scotland's fault as well. Every other group that came to Ireland, the Normans, the adventurers, the Anglo-Irish gentry eventually assimilated, but not the fucking Ulster Scots.

>be a "warrior nation"
>Get beat by a bunch of shop keepers

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I'm not big on Scottish people. I think North English people are the soundest in Britain. Don't get fooled by the "Celtic brotherhood" we share with Scots. They genocided the highlanders and stole their culture just to pretend they're not English

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>be cowardly Scots
>Main forces is in France fighting with the HRE
>Invade northern England
>Get destroyed and the king is killed
>Henry the eighth gets to use his bloody tabard as a standard in battke

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Some fun facts for you
>scotland is named after the scoti, a tribe from ireland
>tartan was originally irish
>bagpipes were originally irish
>90% of what we consider "scottish" culture today was manufactured in the 18th century and is just a bastardized version of Irish culture

Please tell me more about this. I just want to confirm once and for all the absolute patheticness of the S**ts.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme

Went to Scotland once for a stag. Never again.
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Just like Ireland their food looks nasty but their men are cute.

kek

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>the Company of Scotland for Trading to Africa raised £400,000 sterling in a few weeks (equivalent to roughly £48 million today), with investments from every level of society, and totalling about a fifth of the wealth of Scotland
>they dug a ditch through the neck of land that divided one side of the harbour in Caledonia Bay from the ocean, and constructed Fort St Andrew, which was equipped with 50 cannon, but no source of fresh water
>Although the harbour appeared to be a natural one it later proved to have tides that could easily wreck a vessel trying to leave
>the local Indians, though hostile to Spain, were unwilling to trade for the combs and other trinkets offered by the colonists
>Most serious was the almost total failure to sell any goods to the few passing traders who put into the bay
>Eventually, the mortality rate rose to ten settlers a day
>After just eight months, the colony was abandoned in July 1699
>Those on the single ship that returned home found themselves regarded as a disgrace to the country and were even disowned by their families
In August 1699, the Olive Branch and Hopeful Beginning with 300 settlers arrived in Darien to find ruined huts and 400 overgrown graves. Expecting a bustling town
>the Olive Branch was destroyed by an accidental fire
>Drummond insisted there could be no discussion, and the fort must be rebuilt as a Spanish attack would surely come soon
>Drummond clashed with the merchant James Byres
>Byres... claim[ed] it would be unlawful to resist the Spanish by force of arms, as all war was unchristian
>[He] had Drummond arrested
>The Spanish force – who were also suffering serious losses from fever – closed in on Fort St Andrew and besieged it for a month
>After negotiations, the Scots were allowed to leave with their guns, and the colony was abandoned for the last time
>Of the total 2500 settlers that set off, just a few hundred survived
Holy fuck, that's Emu War levels of retarded

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Hope you didn't miss this little gem
>The company sent out another ship, but she was lost at sea. Unable to afford the cost of fitting out yet another, the Annandale was hired in London to trade in the Spice Islands.
>However, the East India Company had the ship seized on the grounds that this was in contravention of their charter. This provoked an uproar in Scotland, greatly aided by the inflammatory rhetoric of the company's secretary, a relentless enemy of the English named Roderick MacKenzie.
>Fury at the country's impotence led to the scapegoating and hanging of three innocent English sailors
Scotland is, and always has been, the most pathetic little smear of a ***country*** in the world.

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>land of the """"free""""
>votes no for independece
>votes no for brexit

t. country that doesn't speak its own language

Any Scots"""man""" want to defend their honour

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>scottish
>directly stand up for themselves

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Leave Scotland alone you fucking cunt

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Scot here. Voted No and cannot wait for the Scottish assembly to be dissolved. Heil Mosley!

>be welsh
>Submit to English rule
>Retain all language and culture
>Be Scottish
>Submit to english rule
>Rebel
>All language and culture is destroyed

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>fuck up
>blame english or irish
Sounds like the Scots alright

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I can respect that.

Have to ask though, do you really consider yourself Scottish or do you moreso consider yourself British?

Tbf mate - I always vote Tory. Even thn, that's just because no-one to their right runs here

British. I see Scotland as a shitly run council.

Ya, that's what I thought

>not a single scot here to stick up for themselves
They really do have no /heart/. Just keep finding new ways to let you down

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Not Scottish but live in Edinburgh. Edinburgh is an amazing place full of amazing history and people. Some Scots can fuck off tho

Nah, in my experience Scots are alright.

Fuck off home you handicapped anglo cunt.
Alba gu brath

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The part I can't stand about Scotland is how they pride themselves on their "celticness", despite the fact that objectively speaking Wales is WAY more Celtic nowadays than they are. Of course Ireland is also guilty of this to some extent, but at least Ireland do genuinely cherish celticness, unlike Scots who historically have really been little more than Northern Englishmen.

But the worst is when they pretend Scots is a language. God does that ever trigger me.

>inb4 "but hundreds of years ago some historian thought it was a separate language!!11!!"

Holy fuck. I had no idea that paddies could be this BASED.

I honestly don't even consider Scotland, England, Wales, and Northern Ireland as actual countries. They're more like states than anything else.

nothings more cucked then defending your colonizers

If youre scottish you have to DIE

>nothings more cucked then defending your colonizers
nobody would ever defend the an*Lo

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Scots were invariably the worst when it came to Ireland
>plantation of ulster overseen by scottish king
>most ulster planter were scots
>scots were the only ones in britain or ireland to fully back cromwell (ireland and wales opposed him and english were split)
>the worst discrimination faced by irish emigrants was in scotland
"Muh Celtic brotherhood" is a meme Scots use to absolve themselves of blame for being willing partners with England. You don't hear that crap from the Welsh even half as much.

>the anglo
The two waves of colonisers in Ireland that actually stayed were Normans (ie French) and Scots in Ulster.

a lot of misconceptions
>Scots were invariably the worst when it came to Ireland
Even if that were true, it would only be true for some in SW Scotland because easterners were completely uninvolved and highlanders were and basically still are us. There was no difference.
>but highlands are dead
they moved to the cities, The majority of Scots were highlanders they didn't just disappear.
>plantation of ulster overseen by scottish king
One king who was related to the tudors and ruled from London. He was more anglo than Scot, not to mention the Stewards were of norman descent.
>most ulster planter were scots
Ulster Scots culture survived better but the plantation itself was largely anglo. Anglo armies did all of the ethnic cleansing before the plantation and Scottish highlanders Scots places like Antrim and Down weren't even in the official plantation and most scots there came in several waves of famine or opportunity. The Ulster plantaton actually failed like the rest of them, as it was confined to the west of the bann, which is still catholic. James wanted Scots as they were halfway between "civilised" anglo and "barbarian" Irish, but he ended up using a weird mix of Marchers, Northern English people and Ayrshire. Private settlement was much more successful than James plantation
>scots were the only ones in britain or ireland to fully back cromwell (ireland and wales opposed him and english were split)
Completely false. Have you never heard of Alasdair mhic Colla? Even the covenanters ended up against cromwell.
>the worst discrimination faced by irish emigrants was in scotland
Ironically by other Irish emigrants. Ulster people brought their sectarianism with them.

>"Muh Celtic brotherhood" is a meme Scots use to absolve themselves of blame for being willing partners with England.
Union was opposed by Scots

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normans are completely assimilated, there are still fuckloads of anglos though.

Every single sentence in this outpouring of drivel is pure unadulterated COPE.

>Union was opposed by Scots
Why are you even talking you fucking brainlet.

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>Private settlement was much more successful than James plantation
And the private settlement was mostly Scots

Actually, most of your "facts" about the Plantation are compete bullshit. Watch vid-related for a thorough history.
youtube.com/watch?v=OCS1nmwXV2I

>Anglo armies did all of the ethnic cleansing
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Monro
and also read up on the Irish Confederate Wars